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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1150 on: March 11, 2020, 07:58:17 am »
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Coronavirus: Health minister Nadine Dorries tests positive for COVID-19
The MP has voted twice in the House of Commons in the past week - likely meaning she has been in contact with hundreds of MPs.
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Health minister Nadine Dorries has tested positive for coronavirus and a member of her staff is ill.

Ms Dorries is self-isolating at home and has appealed to fellow MPs to get in touch if they have recently been in contact with her, Sky News understands.

Read more at: https://news.sky.com/story/nadine-dorries-health-minister-tests-positive-for-coronavirus-11954928

Cautiously, it looks like the disease is in decline.

Dr. Oz or someone yesterday said, it actually had not killed, maybe any kids at all... You know, 0-9 years old or something like this.

Even some or all of the elderly, usually had some health risk already, heart problems, something....

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« Reply #1151 on: March 11, 2020, 08:12:50 am »
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« Reply #1152 on: March 11, 2020, 08:13:38 am »
Looks like Belgium is now facing this, some in Spain.

Pretty good coverage at BNO, Breaking News Online:

https://twitter.com/BNODesk



What's missing? Florida isn't showing up and as we've been told, Florida has had at least, some cases.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1153 on: March 11, 2020, 08:15:26 am »
Italian doctor at heart of illness shares chilling coronavirus thoughts
https://nypost.com/2020/03/10/italian-doctor-at-heart-of-illness-shares-chilling-coronavirus-thoughts/
March 10, 2020

...Italy, where more than 460 people have been killed and 9,172 others infected by the virus,...

...Describing every available ventilator as “gold,” Macchini said the doctors and nurses working at his side are exhausted.

“I saw the tiredness on faces that didn’t know what it was despite the already exhausting workloads they had. I saw a solidarity of all of us who never failed to go to our internist colleagues to ask, ‘What can I do for you now?’

“Doctors who move beds and transfer patients, who administer therapies instead of nurses. Nurses with tears in their eyes because we can’t save everyone, and the vital parameters of several patients at the same time reveal an already marked destiny.

“There are no more shifts, no more hours. Social life is suspended for us. We no longer see our families for fear of infecting them. Some of us have already become infected despite the protocols,” he said.

Macchini noted that some of his colleagues have become infected themselves and then infected their relatives who “are already struggling between life and death.”

“So be patient, you can’t go to the theater, museums or the gym. Try to have pity on the myriad of old people you could exterminate,” he said.

“I finish by saying that I really don’t understand this war on panic. The only reason I see is mask shortages, but there’s no mask on sale anymore. We don’t have a lot of studies, but is panic really worse than neglect and carelessness during an epidemic of this sort?”
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1154 on: March 11, 2020, 08:19:32 am »
Looks like Belgium is now facing this, some in Spain.

Pretty good coverage at BNO, Breaking News Online:

https://twitter.com/BNODesk



What's missing? Florida isn't showing up and as we've been told, Florida has had at least, some cases.

That map appears to be out of date.  The following link from John Hopkins is continuously updated:

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Florida has had 28 confirmed cases with 2 deaths.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1155 on: March 11, 2020, 08:41:05 am »
Coronavirus: Up to 70% of Germany could become infected - Merkel
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51835856

That's really alarmist. We will see.

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1156 on: March 11, 2020, 08:42:31 am »
Coronavirus: Up to 70% of Germany could become infected - Merkel
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-51835856

That's really alarmist. We will see.

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« Reply #1157 on: March 11, 2020, 08:47:45 am »
US coronavirus cases surpass 1,000, Johns Hopkins University data shows

COVID-19 cases surpassed 1,000 in the United States on Tuesday as the new flu-like coronavirus sweeps across the country.

As of late Tuesday evening, there were at least 1,020 cases in the U.S., according to Johns Hopkins University data.

The virus is now present in at least 35 states and the District of Columbia, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Almost half of all U.S. cases are in Washington state, California and New York, where the governors have all declared states of emergency to free up funding for communities battling outbreaks.

At least 28 people have died in the U.S. due to the virus, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. The first confirmed case of COVID-19 in the U.S. was reported in Washington state in January.

There were just over 100 confirmed cases in the U.S. on March 4, according to the World Health Organization. Since then, the virus has spread rapidly from the U.S. epicenter in Washington state across the country............

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/us-coronavirus-cases-surpass-1000-johns-hopkins-university-data-shows.html

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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1158 on: March 11, 2020, 08:54:22 am »
US coronavirus cases surpass 1,000, Johns Hopkins University data shows

COVID-19 cases surpassed 1,000 in the United States on Tuesday as the new flu-like coronavirus sweeps across the country.

As of late Tuesday evening, there were at least 1,020 cases in the U.S., according to Johns Hopkins University data.

The virus is now present in at least 35 states and the District of Columbia, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Almost half of all U.S. cases are in Washington state, California and New York, where the governors have all declared states of emergency to free up funding for communities battling outbreaks.

At least 28 people have died in the U.S. due to the virus, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. The first confirmed case of COVID-19 in the U.S. was reported in Washington state in January.

There were just over 100 confirmed cases in the U.S. on March 4, according to the World Health Organization. Since then, the virus has spread rapidly from the U.S. epicenter in Washington state across the country............

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/us-coronavirus-cases-surpass-1000-johns-hopkins-university-data-shows.html

2 cycles into the epidemic, and U.S. mortality rate is still under 3%. Plus I am not hearing any anecdotal evidence whatsoerver that any young people are dying.  This is shaping up to be primarily an issue for the elderly, and those elderly with pre-existing conditons. I think it is time for the strategy for controls to focus in that direction.
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« Reply #1159 on: March 11, 2020, 08:59:25 am »
2 cycles into the epidemic, and U.S. mortality rate is still under 3%. Plus I am not hearing any anecdotal evidence whatsoerver that any young people are dying.  This is shaping up to be primarily an issue for the elderly, and those elderly with pre-existing conditons. I think it is time for the strategy for controls to focus in that direction.

Italy is at 6% Mortality
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1160 on: March 11, 2020, 09:10:04 am »
Italy is at 6% Mortality

And as I said on another thread, they are somewhat the anomaly here.  This fact  could be a number of things.  Better testing and verification, Strain is mutating, and one other....    Italy's age demographic shows that it has a higher instance of >age 65 population than most of the  other countries in Europe.  Or, it could be a combination of these factors.
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« Reply #1161 on: March 11, 2020, 09:17:01 am »
And as I said on another thread, they are somewhat the anomaly here.  This fact  could be a number of things.  Better testing and verification, Strain is mutating, and one other....    Italy's age demographic shows that it has a higher instance of >age 65 population than most of the  other countries in Europe.  Or, it could be a combination of these factors.

Or it could be they have got the largest sample size of infected with a more reliable reporting source than China, Iran, etc...
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« Reply #1162 on: March 11, 2020, 10:29:20 am »
Italy is at 6% Mortality
I prefer to not be in the 6%.  Anyone need any toilet paper?   happy77

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« Reply #1163 on: March 11, 2020, 10:37:33 am »
Italy is at 6% Mortality

Italy also has the second oldest population in the world (behind Japan).  Two days ago, I read that the youngest person to die from this in Italy was 55 and already had a slew of health problems.  So consider the sample makeup of the "infected" group.
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« Reply #1164 on: March 11, 2020, 10:56:53 am »
I prefer to not be in the 6%.  Anyone need any toilet paper?   happy77

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« Reply #1165 on: March 11, 2020, 11:07:24 am »
Italy also has the second oldest population in the world (behind Japan).  Two days ago, I read that the youngest person to die from this in Italy was 55 and already had a slew of health problems.  So consider the sample makeup of the "infected" group.
The Candace Owens tweet I posted above indicated that most Italian victims have been age 80+.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1166 on: March 11, 2020, 11:43:23 am »
Italy is at 6% Mortality
Italy's Coronavirus victims have an average age of 81. 23% of the country is described as elderly.
That puts large numbers square in the at risk demographic.
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« Reply #1168 on: March 11, 2020, 12:14:00 pm »
MATTHEW BELL: Deserted streets. The shops shut. A 6pm curfew. That's Italy now... so how did they get coronavirus so wrong?
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« Reply #1169 on: March 11, 2020, 12:50:09 pm »
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BREAKING: Coronavirus can be characterized as a pandemic, WHO says
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https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1237781166780043264

"can be", that's kind of ambiguous language, it is or isn't...
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« Reply #1170 on: March 11, 2020, 12:53:03 pm »
Many Americans aren’t panicking over coronavirus. They’re panicking over others panicking.

How much toilet paper does it take to stave off the coronavirus?

by Carl Durrek  March 11, 2020

Stocks plummeting. Events canceled. Toilet paper flying off the shelves. It’s the type of panic one might expect from a Hollywood production about a disease ravaging the world and leaving millions dead in its wake. The problem is, the coronavirus isn’t that disease. Compared to Hollywood visions, it’s minuscule. Compared the death toll of the flu. it’s barely existent.

With this known by many and becoming known by more, why can’t I buy toilet paper without waiting in a long line of other people waiting to buy toilet paper? I didn’t know, so I started asking. Unlike everyone else, I was actually out of toilet paper. But the rest of the people I talked to in line had toilet paper. They just wanted more.

Some said they wanted to get the essentials before there was a quarantine. I didn’t try to dissuade them or share the facts about the coronavirus which are, frankly, unimpressive from a mass extinction perspective. But the majority of people I asked said they weren’t concerned about the coronavirus or quarantines, but were more worried about other people worrying about the coronavirus or quarantines. Looking up and down the line, I realized they had a valid point.

<..snip..>

https://noqreport.com/2020/03/11/many-americans-arent-panicking-over-coronavirus-theyre-panicking-over-others-panicking/
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« Reply #1171 on: March 11, 2020, 12:57:50 pm »
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Johns Hopkins coronavirus map changes "Taiwan" to "Taipei and environs"
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Read more at: https://www.axios.com/johns-hopkins-coronavirus-map-taiwan-china-5c461906-4f1c-42e7-b78e-a4b43f4520ab.html?ref=hvper.com

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« Reply #1172 on: March 11, 2020, 02:03:49 pm »
Going to an MSN link, which has a corona virus world map,and some statistics.
It is updated regularly.
The total number of the deaths divided by the amount of cases comes out to roughly 3.5% world wide.

4373/121564 = 0.035, or 3.5%

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www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6?ocid=eventhub

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« Reply #1173 on: March 11, 2020, 02:20:06 pm »
"can be", that's kind of ambiguous language, it is or isn't...

There are times that the common cold is in "Pandemic Mode" in the most literalist of sense. Using words loosely like Pandemic to describe a disease that kills <0.2% of the population of healthy folks under 50?  Pretty damned irresponsible if you ask me, and just fosters hysteria.

Quote from my wife's Dr. this morning.....

"If the damned media and politicians would shut their mouths and let the Medical community do their job, this would go a 100% smoother in dealing with it."

She also said that it is her belief that warm weather will temper the spread of the virus as spring progresses.
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« Reply #1174 on: March 11, 2020, 02:24:29 pm »
There are times that the common cold is in "Pandemic Mode" in the most literalist of sense. Using words loosely like Pandemic to describe a disease that kills <0.2% of the population of healthy folks under 50?  Pretty damned irresponsible if you ask me, and just fosters hysteria.

Quote from my wife's Dr. this morning.....

"If the damned media and politicians would shut their mouths and let the Medical community do their job, this would go a 100% smoother in dealing with it."

She also said that it is her belief that warm weather will temper the spread of the virus as spring progresses.

I don't believe the word pandemic has anything to do with the fatality rate.

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« Reply #1175 on: March 11, 2020, 02:39:28 pm »
Besides the Houston Livestock show and Rodeo closing (which is HUGE and SERIES), St Thomas Episcopal school closed for 2 weeks, as there is a possibility that one of it's students has been exposed to the Corona virus.

In all seriousness, though. closing the rodeo after it has already been running is a big deal.

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« Reply #1176 on: March 11, 2020, 02:39:51 pm »
I don't believe the word pandemic has anything to do with the fatality rate.

Epidemiologist use the term Mortality Rate.  Basically deaths divided by cases.  A Pandemic is a term to describe a disease (viral or bacteriological) that is wide-spread, generally globally.  Heck, that could apply to a common cold as well as Black Plague.

You are right though.  When most of the population hears that word they go bat shit crazy.  Visions of 1340's Europe and 1918 immedately come to their mind.

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« Reply #1177 on: March 11, 2020, 02:43:39 pm »
Many Americans aren’t panicking over coronavirus. They’re panicking over others panicking.

How much toilet paper does it take to stave off the coronavirus?

by Carl Durrek  March 11, 2020

Stocks plummeting. Events canceled. Toilet paper flying off the shelves. It’s the type of panic one might expect from a Hollywood production about a disease ravaging the world and leaving millions dead in its wake. The problem is, the coronavirus isn’t that disease. Compared to Hollywood visions, it’s minuscule. Compared the death toll of the flu. it’s barely existent.

With this known by many and becoming known by more, why can’t I buy toilet paper without waiting in a long line of other people waiting to buy toilet paper? I didn’t know, so I started asking. Unlike everyone else, I was actually out of toilet paper. But the rest of the people I talked to in line had toilet paper. They just wanted more.

Some said they wanted to get the essentials before there was a quarantine. I didn’t try to dissuade them or share the facts about the coronavirus which are, frankly, unimpressive from a mass extinction perspective. But the majority of people I asked said they weren’t concerned about the coronavirus or quarantines, but were more worried about other people worrying about the coronavirus or quarantines. Looking up and down the line, I realized they had a valid point.

<..snip..>

https://noqreport.com/2020/03/11/many-americans-arent-panicking-over-coronavirus-theyre-panicking-over-others-panicking/
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« Reply #1178 on: March 11, 2020, 02:44:39 pm »
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Democrats are trying to keep President Trump—or any future president—from being able to swiftly issue travel restrictions in the face of health threats like coronavirus.

And the worst part is they're trying to sneak it into a totally unrelated bill, just to restrict debate.


https://twitter.com/GOPLeader/status/1237795041562767360

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ICUs 'should stop treating elderly if coronavirus outbreak worsens'
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The death toll from the coronavirus outbreak in Italy has jumped in the last 24 hours by 196 to 827 as a top Italian doctor said intensive care wards should place an age limit on beds.

Rather than admit patients on a 'first come first served' basis, hospitals should swap to 'catastrophe medicine' guidelines - typically used in war zones and during natural disasters - where those with the greatest chance of survival are given priority.

The guidelines should apply to all patients needing intensive care treatment and not just those suffering from coronavrius, according to guidance published this week by the Society of Anesthesia, Analgesia, Resuscitation and Intensive Care (SAARI).

More: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8101135/Intensive-care-units-stop-treating-elderly-coronavirus-outbreak-worsens.html?ito=social-twitter_mailonline

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« Reply #1179 on: March 11, 2020, 03:06:33 pm »
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Hmmm.... That's pretty ugly...

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« Reply #1180 on: March 11, 2020, 03:10:49 pm »
That map appears to be out of date.  The following link from John Hopkins is continuously updated:

https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6

Florida has had 28 confirmed cases with 2 deaths.

That Johns Hopkins link is the best thing I've seen.

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« Reply #1181 on: March 11, 2020, 03:14:00 pm »
Besides the Houston Livestock show and Rodeo closing (which is HUGE and SERIES), St Thomas Episcopal school closed for 2 weeks, as there is a possibility that one of it's students has been exposed to the Corona virus.

In all seriousness, though. closing the rodeo after it has already been running is a big deal.

All the Maple Festivals in Ohio have been cancelled by the ODNR.

That's a pretty big deal too.
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« Reply #1182 on: March 11, 2020, 03:15:31 pm »
Besides the Houston Livestock show and Rodeo closing (which is HUGE and SERIES), St Thomas Episcopal school closed for 2 weeks, as there is a possibility that one of it's students has been exposed to the Corona virus.

In all seriousness, though. closing the rodeo after it has already been running is a big deal.

Houston Rodeo canceled amid growing concerns over coronavirus
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,394734.msg2166098.html#msg2166098
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« Reply #1183 on: March 11, 2020, 03:16:47 pm »
   I'm pretty sure that Fiesta ~ San Antonio (largest yearly festival) is about to be cancelled.
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« Reply #1184 on: March 11, 2020, 03:39:36 pm »
   I'm pretty sure that Fiesta ~ San Antonio (largest yearly festival) is about to be cancelled.
Several cities have cancelled St. Patrick's Day parades, which means only that large groups people will be gathering earlier in the day than usual in close, confined spaces - breathing, sneezing and coughing on one another -  to drink vast quantities of beer. That should solve the problem!
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« Reply #1185 on: March 11, 2020, 03:40:15 pm »
It appears that this virus is highly contagious. So I don't have a problem with events being cancelled to try to contain it. I think it a wise move until more can be determined.

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« Reply #1186 on: March 11, 2020, 03:42:03 pm »
Several cities have cancelled St. Patrick's Day parades, which means only that large groups people will be gathering earlier in the day than usual in close, confined spaces - breathing, sneezing and coughing on one another -  to drink vast quantities of beer. That should solve the problem!



I'm gonna check in on the value of green beer in these circumstances. :laugh:

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« Reply #1187 on: March 11, 2020, 03:51:26 pm »
Republicans under quarantine for coronavirus so far:

* Ted Cruz
* Paul Gosar
* Doug Collins
* Matt Gaetz
* Mark Meadows

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/senior-republicans-quarantine-coronavirus-200310094312225.html
Five senior Republicans in self-quarantine over coronavirus

it's al jazeera so it's probably just fake news.

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« Reply #1188 on: March 11, 2020, 03:53:44 pm »
I'm gonna check in on the value of green beer in these circumstances. :laugh:
I still plan to pick up a 12-pack of Corona next time I'm at the store, just because I can.
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« Reply #1189 on: March 11, 2020, 04:09:06 pm »
Side story and interesting because most of us know who Jim Baker, the televangelist is and... we also discussed colloidal silver I believe earlier in this thread:
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Missouri is suing a televangelist who falsely suggested on his show that colloidal silver could cure coronavirus patients
Michelle Mark


Missouri's attorney general sued the televangelist Jim Bakker over his show's false claims that colloidal silver could cure COVID-19.

The state of Missouri has sued the televangelist Jim Bakker over his show's false claims that colloidal silver could cure the novel coronavirus.

The US Food and Drug Administration has made clear there are currently no substances, products, drugs, or vaccines that can cure, treat, or prevent COVID-19.

Furthermore, there are no credible scientific studies backing up claims that colloidal silver has health benefits. In fact, the substance can cause potentially serious side effects.


More at: https://www.insider.com/missouri-sues-televangelist-jim-bakker-false-coronavirus-cure-colloidal-silver-2020-3

So, it's up to each of us to decide.

I heard on the radio the other day that watch out with kidney failure over colloidal silver, maybe one would have to use a lot of it for that to happen.

I had some of this colloidal silver a few years ago, got it at the health store.


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« Reply #1190 on: March 11, 2020, 04:09:15 pm »
I still plan to pick up a 12-pack of Corona next time I'm at the store, just because I can.

I picked up a six pack of Corona last week, hoping it was on sale.


It wasn't.

Nonetheless,  :beer:

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« Reply #1191 on: March 11, 2020, 04:16:52 pm »
Epidemiologist use the term Mortality Rate.  Basically deaths divided by cases.  A Pandemic is a term to describe a disease (viral or bacteriological) that is wide-spread, generally globally.  Heck, that could apply to a common cold as well as Black Plague.

You are right though.  When most of the population hears that word they go bat shit crazy.  Visions of 1340's Europe and 1918 immedately come to their mind.

What is a pandemic?

Declaring a pandemic has nothing to do with changes to the characteristics of a disease, but is instead associated with concerns over its geographic spread. According to the World Health Organization, a pandemic is declared when a new disease for which people do not have immunity spreads around the world beyond expectations.

How does the WHO decide whether to call it a pandemic?

Cases that involve travellers who have been infected in a foreign country and have then returned to their home country, or who have been infected by that traveller, known as the “index case”, do not count towards declaring a pandemic. There needs to be a second wave of infection from person to person throughout the community.

Once a pandemic is declared, it becomes more likely that community spread will eventually happen, and governments and health systems need to ensure they are prepared for that.

An epidemic, on the other hand, is a sudden increase in cases of an illness or disease that can be unique to one country or community.
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Re: Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion
« Reply #1192 on: March 11, 2020, 04:19:13 pm »
I TPed the tree in my yard, as a scarecrow.
Put toilet paper all over my door including the handle.
Feeling safe. Coronavirus will never come round here.
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« Reply #1193 on: March 11, 2020, 04:21:11 pm »
I TPed the tree in my yard, as a scarecrow.
Put toilet paper all over my door including the handle.
Feeling safe. Coronavirus will never come round here.
Well done.
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« Reply #1194 on: March 11, 2020, 04:49:21 pm »
During a Wal-mart stop today, I decided to check out their iso-propanol supply.  The entire shelf was empty.  But they had plenty of bleach.
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« Reply #1195 on: March 11, 2020, 06:17:53 pm »
People should be buying tampons instead of TP. More effective to stop their shit for brains leaking out their ears. The TP epidemic has hit here hard.

Just for fun.

https://www.who.int/influenza/surveillance_monitoring/updates/latest_update_GIP_surveillance/en/

Influenza update - 362

Summary

    In the temperate zone of the northern hemisphere, respiratory illness indicators and influenza activity remained elevated overall.
        In North America, influenza activity remained elevated influenza A(H1N1)pdm09 and B viruses co-circulating.
        In Europe, influenza activity continued to increase across the region but appeared to have peaked in some countries.
        In Central Asia, influenza activity decreased with detections of all seasonal influenza subtypes.
        In Northern Africa, influenza activity continued to increase in Algeria and Tunisia, with detections of influenza A(H1N1)pdm09 and B viruses.
        In Western Asia, influenza activity remained elevated overall, though in some countries activity returned to low levels.
        In East Asia, influenza-like illness (ILI) and influenza activity appeared to decrease overall.
    In the Caribbean and Central American countries, influenza activity was low across reporting countries with some exceptions. In Mexico, influenza activity appeared to decrease, with influenza A(H1N1)pdm09 viruses most frequently detected. In tropical South American countries, influenza activity remained low.
    In tropical Africa, influenza detections were low across reporting countries.
    In Southern Asia, influenza activity was low overall, though remained elevated in Afghanistan.
    In South East Asia, influenza activity continued to be reported in some countries.
    In the temperate zones of the southern hemisphere, influenza activity remained at inter-seasonal levels.
    Worldwide, seasonal influenza A viruses accounted for the majority of detections.




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« Reply #1196 on: March 11, 2020, 06:18:14 pm »
hahaha

Who Was The Man Who Took US Hostages, Established Hezbollah And Died Of Coronavirus

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« Reply #1197 on: March 11, 2020, 06:23:16 pm »
People should be buying tampons instead of TP. More effective to stop their shit for brains leaking out their ears. The TP epidemic has hit here hard.



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« Reply #1198 on: March 11, 2020, 06:26:16 pm »
Several cities have cancelled St. Patrick's Day parades, which means only that large groups people will be gathering earlier in the day than usual in close, confined spaces - breathing, sneezing and coughing on one another -  to drink vast quantities of beer. That should solve the problem!

Ah yes! Those unintended consequences of over reactive fear.

Just like not thinking about what the OSU students will do in their free time while classes are cancelled.  They would have been far safer in class on campus than the partying they’ll be doing in their absence.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
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« Reply #1199 on: March 11, 2020, 06:48:58 pm »
Ah yes! Those unintended consequences of over reactive fear.

Just like not thinking about what the OSU students will do in their free time while classes are cancelled.  They would have been far safer in class on campus than the partying they’ll be doing in their absence.

Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.
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