Coronavirus, comprehensive and updates discussion

[skeeter]

Add the fact this virus supposedly doesn't do so well in warm/hot weather.

This virus has another two months here, tops. Probably less. It may be back during another flu season, but this bout will be over.

It was funny watched Governor Cuomo yesterday declare that all these extreme measures won't end soon, the virus could be here another 8, 9 months. Gee, what else happens in 8, 9 months?

[corbe]

Mexico Wants to Close Border with US to Stop Coronavirus Spread 'The United States would bring it here,' top official declares

By: Jay Greenberg |@NeonNettle on 14th March 2020 @ 1.00pm

Mexico wants to close off the border to stop Americans spreading coronavirus Mexico is calling for its northern border with the United States to be closed off to stop Americans from spreading coronavirus into their country. Currently, there are over 2,000 cases of COVID-19 infection in the U.S., with over 40 deaths so far, as it continues to spread rapidly. In Mexico, however, only 16 cases have been confirmed and no deaths. Speaking during a press conference Friday, Mexican Health Minister Hugo Lopez-Gatell said: "Mexico wouldn't bring the virus to the United States, rather the United States would bring it here. "The possible flow of coronavirus would come from the north to the south. "If it were technically necessary, we would consider mechanisms of restriction or stronger surveillance," he said.

READ MORE: https://neonnettle.com/news/10629-mexico-wants-to-close-border-with-us-to-stop-coronavirus-spread
© Neon Nettle

[jmyrlefuller]

This virus has another two months here, tops. Probably less. It may be back during another flu season, but this bout will be over.

It was funny watched Governor Cuomo yesterday declare that all these extreme measures won't end soon, the virus could be here another 8, 9 months. Gee, what else happens in 8, 9 months?

They're going to milk this as long as they can... probably until people start getting restless enough to start causing trouble. You think public gatherings are bad, wait until they turn into public mobs!

[mountaineer]

Older or Unhealthy: The first 48 U.S. coronavirus deaths in detail
Early American fatalities of the coronavirus are mostly elderly or suffering from health issues.
By Sharyl Attkisson
Last Updated:  March 14, 2020 - 9:09am

As Americans spend their first full day under a presidentially declared national state of emergency, many are wondering about the profile of those who have succumbed to the coronavirus so far.

The number of U.S. deaths has been growing since the first one reported in Washington state on Feb. 29. The victim’s name was not released, nor were details of his circumstances. But officials said he lived in King County, was in his 50s, and had “underlying health conditions.”

As of Friday, the total number of U.S. deaths attributed to coronavirus stood at 48. All but 11 of the deaths were in Washington state.  Of the total deaths reported through March 13, more than half (25) were from the Life Care Center nursing facility in Kirkland, Wash., where a serious outbreak occurred.

U.S. health officials said the early pattern of deaths suggests those most at risk are the elderly and those with more serious health issues like diabetes, lung disease or coronary ailments. ...

Rest of article enumerates the deceased, noting that all were over 65 and/or had underlying health conditions.

[corbe]

[Bigun]

Older or Unhealthy: The first 48 U.S. coronavirus deaths in detail
Early American fatalities of the coronavirus are mostly elderly or suffering from health issues.
By Sharyl Attkisson
Last Updated:  March 14, 2020 - 9:09amRest of article enumerates the deceased, noting that all were over 65 and/or had underlying health conditions.

Of the total deaths reported through March 13, more than half (25) were from the Life Care Center nursing facility in Kirkland, Wash.

And, for the most part, all bunched up in ONE nursing home.  We here about the living conditions in places like that all the time.

[aligncare]

Older or Unhealthy: The first 48 U.S. coronavirus deaths in detail
Early American fatalities of the coronavirus are mostly elderly or suffering from health issues.
By Sharyl Attkisson
Last Updated:  March 14, 2020 - 9:09amRest of article enumerates the deceased, noting that all were over 65 and/or had underlying health conditions.

Hey! We don’t need no stinking facts. Scare me, then you can get me to accept anything. Fear, we need more fear. This election isn’t gonna just win itself for Joe. We need more irrational panic. That’s how democrats win. Fear and panic. Oh, and a consequent fear-based market crash. That can always goose a democrat win.

[Hoodat]

Scorching read in the Atlantic, I read both sides or iow, I will read everything. This is a pretty intellectually detailed read and not my field of expertise.

Well let's take a closer look at this "Scorching read in the Atlantic", shall we?

We also know the World Health Organization had working tests that the United States refused, and researchers at a project in Seattle tried to conduct early tests for the coronavirus but were prevented from doing so by federal officials.

I call BS.

(Doctors at the research project eventually decided to perform coronavirus tests without federal approval.)

QED.  In the very next sentence, the Atlantic contradicts the claim they had just made.  How could they have performed tests if the federal government prevented them from performing tests?

Fauci:  “It would be nice if the office was still there.” We may face a shortage of ventilators and medical supplies, and hospitals may soon be overwhelmed, certainly if the number of coronavirus cases increases at a rate anything like that in countries such as Italy.

So help me out here.  How exactly is having more tests available (for a disease that first popped up on radar only a few weeks ago) going to solve the perceived and unquantified future possibility of ventilator shortages?

Now, I'm feeling more like staying in and taking precautions because we've got to be more self-reliant....

That's a given.  Anyone sitting on their ass waiting for the federal government to save them deserves what they get.  Any Conservative would know that already.

[Hoodat]

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/stephaniemlee/grand-princess-coronavirus-testing

This Elderly Couple Got Evacuated From The Grand Princess — And Still Can’t Get Tested For The Coronavirus.

What is the rush here?  They are both still in quarantine, and showing NO SYMPTOMS.  It's not like they are going anywhere.  There is still time to test them before they leave.  In the meantime, they should be grateful that they are showing no signs of the disease.  They should be giving thanks to G-d instead of bitching about why two perfectly healthy individuals haven't been given a test while those who really are sick are diverting the attention of health care workers away from them.

[Hoodat]

The American entertainment business is dying.  Travel is closed.  Nobody is going to the theater.

Don't care about the entertainment business.  I am traveling.   I am going to dollar-movie theaters to see old releases.  Don't know why you feel the need to panic over this.

As for stores, they remain open.  Apparently, selling goods is something they have a wacky desire to do.  Go figure.  Food is available.  Soap is available.  Cold medicines are available.  Hand cleaners are available.  And if you go to the store around the time delivery trucks show up on Monday, you could even score some toilet paper.

Speaking of delivery truck drivers, business is booming.  And manufacturers will have to step up production to meet orders that usually come from overseas.  And then there are all those service jobs that remain viable because they don't require a plant or central office.  I simply ain't buying all this Chicken Little crap.

[corbe]

He Has 17,700 Bottles of Hand Sanitizer and Nowhere to Sell Them

Jack Nicas 1 hr ago

On March 1, the day after the first coronavirus death in the United States, brothers Matt and Noah Colvin set out in a silver S.U.V. to pick up some hand sanitizer. Driving around Chattanooga, Tenn., they hit a Dollar Tree, then a Walmart, a Staples and a Home Depot. At each store, they cleaned out the shelves.

Over the next three days, Noah Colvin took a 1,300-mile road trip across Tennessee and into Kentucky, filling a U-Haul truck with thousands of bottles of hand sanitizer and thousands of packs of antibacterial wipes, mostly from “little hole-in-the-wall dollar stores in the backwoods,” his brother said.

“The major metro areas were cleaned out.”

Matt Colvin stayed home near Chattanooga, preparing for pallets of even more wipes and sanitizer he had ordered, and starting to list them on Amazon. Mr. Colvin said he had posted 300 bottles of hand sanitizer and immediately sold them all for between $8 and $70 each, multiples higher than what he had bought them for. To him, “it was crazy money.” To many others, it was profiteering from a pandemic.

<..snip..>

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/he-has-17700-bottles-of-hand-sanitizer-and-nowhere-to-sell-them/ar-BB11blvS?ocid=spartanntp

[Hoodat]

Good, you get an ad hom in.  Talk rough, talk profane, real classy.  Insult someone else. Can't make an argument otherwise.  Try to quell free speech with this abuse.  Conservatives don't.. oh, never mind, but I could say likewise back.

Oh, you thought I was talking about you?  Never visioned you as the 'helpless government leech' type.  I learned something today.

Yeah, no backup, no refutation, just say you don't agree with it.

Good grief, the refutation is in the very next sentence.  Let me spell it out for your:

Premise A:  researchers at a project in Seattle tried but were prevented from performing coronavirus tests

Premise B:  Doctors at the research project performed coronavirus tests


Geez, even a fifth grader can figure this one out.  The two statements contradict each other.  Were you really not able to see that?

[Gefn]

@corbe I’d like a pair.

[Hoodat]

Alabama company gets approval to move forward with coronavirus test kits...

https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/alabama-lab-gets-initial-approval-make-coronavirus-test-kits/NEX5OWAV4BF57HCPDZAGIUM6KI/

100,000 tests near approval to move out for the market...

Fort Payne.  Cool beans.

[TomSea]

Pentagon halts all domestic travel for military until May 11

'Our goal is to remain ahead of the virus spread so our military force remains effective and ready'

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/mar/14/coronavirus-prompts-pentagon-halt-all-domestic-tra/?utm_source=onesignal&utm_campaign=pushnotify&utm_medium=push

[TomSea]

Tom Cotton
@SenTomCotton
Please don’t ridicule people for “overreacting” to the Chinese coronavirus. They’re just trying to protect their families, workers, students, athletes—all of us, really. Instead, think how you can help those in need.

https://twitter.com/SenTomCotton/status/1238793898245402625

[Idiot]

@corbe I’d like a pair.

lololololololololol

[Idiot]

I would like to know why, when even in the hardest-hit locations around the world infection rates have never even approached 1% of the population, why there are so many so-called "experts" predicting a majority of Americans will get it? A majority of Americans don't even get the flu each year.

It's bad enough that we're taking away people's distractions, throwing wrenches into their everyday lives, and making them anxious. Baseless speculation such as this does nothing but foment panic.

I'll also add: so far, outside Washington, the death rate for this virus is stunningly low here in America compared to the rest of the world. Thousands of cases, not even counting those who haven't been diagnosed yet, and last I checked you could count the number of deaths on your fingers. Whatever we are doing for treatment, it's working.

Thanks for the voice of reason.

[Hoodat]

I agree.  Sadly recognizing the wide spread hysteria does not inhibit panic selling on wallstreet and panic buying at the grocery store.  My 401K is decimated and my local store is out of TP.  I blame Trump.

Didn't realize Trump was assigned the task of ensuring your local supermarket stocked enough toilet paper for any contingency.  Maybe if we turned toilet paper production over to a government-run monopoly, had government trucks deliver it to every store in America, and then mandate those stores provide storage space to provide 50 times the amount of paper that they provide under normal circumstances, and then set limits (i.e. ration it) on the number of rolls each consumer can purchase in a day, maybe then would you be guaranteed to have toilet paper available to you for purchase 24/7.  Of course with this setup, the price of a roll of toilet paper could be expected to double, triple, or even quadruple.  Milton Freeman used to teach this same scenario in regard to wooden pencils.

As for your 401(k), did you by chance purchase your entire investment in mid-January, and were you really planning on cashing out at the end of this month?  Because if you weren't planning on selling, then it really doesn't matter what the market says.  And if you didn't purchase all your investment when the DOW was in the 29k range, then I suspect the vast majority of your stock portfolio is worth more now than when you paid for it.

But since you seem to want to put this off on Trump, the DOW today is up 17% since Trump took office.  For someone who chooses to put it all on the President, a little praise is in order, don't you think?

[Hoodat]

Please don’t ridicule people for “overreacting” to the Chinese coronavirus. They’re just trying to protect their families, workers, students, athletes—all of us, really. Instead, think how you can help those in need.

Fair enough, Tom.  How can I help you today?

[Hoodat]

Mexico Wants to Close Border with US to Stop Coronavirus Spread 'The United States would bring it here,' top official declares

Mexico wants to close off the border to stop Americans spreading coronavirus Mexico is calling for its northern border with the United States to be closed off to stop Americans from spreading coronavirus into their country.

What will the Democrats' reaction be?  Inquiring minds want to know.

[Idiot]

What will the Democrats' reaction be?  Inquiring minds want to know.

Too funny....

[Smokin Joe]

On average, 7,452 people die every day in the US.

source

That's roughly two per county, on average.

Since the beginning of this coronavirus outbreak, 49 Americans have died.

Less than one per day, on average, and 37 were from Washington State, and 25 of those were tied to a single nursing home in Kirkland, over half of the US total.

Among the people in the United States who have died from coronavirus, almost all have been in their 70s, 80s or 90s. The youngest known fatality was a man in his 40s.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-us-cases.html

Let me put this in perspective, because that is still less than 1 person per day in the entire country who has died of this since the outbreak began.

By contrast, 102 people per day get killed in auto accidents. (You may be 100X more likely to die driving around looking for toilet paper than of the virus).
 
As sad as it is, an average of 132 people per day in the US die by their own hand.

Over 45 people per day die from falls in the US.

Sixteen per day are killed crossing the street in pedestrian/vehicle accidents.

Three people per day, on average, die from being too hot or too cold (hypo/hyper thermia, not counting those who die in fires).

While this virus is something new and different, something seemingly more random than falling down or not looking both ways before crossing the street, so far the number of deaths from the coronavirus are statistically insignificant compared to other causes of death in the US.

Maybe it is just me, but I really don't understand the panic.

[Smokin Joe]

Mexico Wants to Close Border with US to Stop Coronavirus Spread 'The United States would bring it here,' top official declares

By: Jay Greenberg |@NeonNettle on 14th March 2020 @ 1.00pm

Mexico wants to close off the border to stop Americans spreading coronavirus Mexico is calling for its northern border with the United States to be closed off to stop Americans from spreading coronavirus into their country. Currently, there are over 2,000 cases of COVID-19 infection in the U.S., with over 40 deaths so far, as it continues to spread rapidly. In Mexico, however, only 16 cases have been confirmed and no deaths. Speaking during a press conference Friday, Mexican Health Minister Hugo Lopez-Gatell said: "Mexico wouldn't bring the virus to the United States, rather the United States would bring it here. "The possible flow of coronavirus would come from the north to the south. "If it were technically necessary, we would consider mechanisms of restriction or stronger surveillance," he said.

READ MORE: https://neonnettle.com/news/10629-mexico-wants-to-close-border-with-us-to-stop-coronavirus-spread
© Neon Nettle

Just tell them no dice. We'll build a wall, but they have to pay for it....

[Cyber Liberty]

This Elderly Couple Got Evacuated From The Grand Princess — And Still Can’t Get Tested For The Coronavirus.

Obviously Trump's Fault.  We got 'im now!

[roamer_1]

While this virus is something new and different, something seemingly more random than falling down or not looking both ways before crossing the street, so far the number of deaths from the coronavirus are statistically insignificant compared to other causes of death in the US.

Maybe it is just me, but I really don't understand the panic.

That's right.

[TomSea]

Tom Cotton
@SenTomCotton
·
Mar 11
It get worse.

A New Jersey mayor told Pallone in person that more masks were needed. The mayor didn’t know Pallone—a New Jersey representative—was the very reason first responders had a mask shortage in the first place.

@FrankPallone is a disgrace.

Then, he links to an article:

.... Wahler said Piscataway has ordered 5,000 face masks for the township's first responders but suppliers have run out.

"If our first responders can't get it, how can the public get it?" he asked.

Wahler also said the township has to revise its proposed budget based on the lower bookings at township hotels and lower occupancy tax revenues.

https://www.mycentraljersey.com/story/news/health/2020/03/09/coronoavirus-could-have-unforeseen-consequences-nj-families-more/5001197002/

I'm not sure if the article is directly connected to or confirms what Cotton says but good to know. He seems to be trying to set the record straight.

[jmyrlefuller]

South Korea’s coronavirus response is the opposite of China and Italy – and it’s working
https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3075164/south-koreas-coronavirus-response-opposite-china-and

[TomSea]

I saw a chart, where the US leads virtually everyone is beds for patients. That's kind of a scary thought actually, supposedly some of these countries have had problems having a hospital bed for patients.

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I might remind some, this thread started in Mid-January, it's gained about 30 pages over the last week, obviously, however one characterizes it, this is a big story... to me, this may be the biggest news story since 9/11.

Since, there is a medical and health risk involved, we asked that it get moved to health and education.

So, yes, I think I have the right to at least, meekly comment on it and what is going on. Here, the streets are largely empty, stores are empty, Oh, Look there, Walgreen's isn't, bizarre, long line last night and they were sold out of a lot.

[catfish1957]

Older or Unhealthy: The first 48 U.S. coronavirus deaths in detail
Early American fatalities of the coronavirus are mostly elderly or suffering from health issues.
By Sharyl Attkisson
Last Updated:  March 14, 2020 - 9:09amRest of article enumerates the deceased, noting that all were over 65 and/or had underlying health conditions.

Thanks for the link Mountaineer.  I've been looking for this for days now.  Maybe @TomSea might temper down his fear factor tactics a tad now.

[catfish1957]

They're going to milk this as long as they can... probably until people start getting restless enough to start causing trouble. You think public gatherings are bad, wait until they turn into public mobs!

There's a chance more people will die from murders and suicides from Cornovirus induced Cabin Fever than the disease itself, if this madness sustains for any length of time.

[corbe]

   All these sports nuts are having to pay attention to their wives now, so I also expect the divorce rate to shoot up in America.

[catfish1957]

   All these sports nuts are having to pay attention to their wives now, so I also expect the divorce rate to shoot up in America.

How about all those local TV sportscasters.  They going to twittle their thumbs 5 minutes between 6:15- 6:20?

[jmyrlefuller]

How about all those local TV sportscasters.  They going to twittle their thumbs 5 minutes between 6:15- 6:20?

NFL free agency is still taking place. No physical contact is needed for that. I've been seeing a lot of those news reports lately.

It helps maintain at least some semblance of normality.

[TomSea]

Trump’s Surgeon General Jerome Adams Advises Hospitals to Cancel Elective Surgeries
written by J.C McCallum March 14, 2020

The Trump administration via U.S. Surgeon General Jerome Adams just advised hospitals to cancel elective procedures in preparation for the coronavirus.

Adams made the striking request on Twitter and he gave some solid reasons. The main one is to flatten the curve.

We know we will soon see our hospitals flooded with patients – treatment works but as we saw in Italy and China the key is to have access to hospital beds and equipment. A sudden influx will overload the system so you can expect to see more hospitals start doing this.

Read more at: https://newsthud.com/trumps-surgeon-general-jerome-adams-advises-hospitals-to-cancel-elective-surgeries/

The Deep State and Elitists at work again. 

[corbe]

[TomSea]

Just for comparison's sake:

"...Italy’s total cases now tally 21,157."
https://apnews.com/fd1743f8b54b17310cc6e4b3445f2914

Gov. DeWine: 100,000 believed to have coronavirus in Ohio, number projected to double every six days
https://www.foxnews.com/media/governor-dewine-100k-believed-to-have-cv-in-ohio-number-will-double-every-six-days

So, per these facts, Ohio has a lot more cases of Coronavirus, yes, I'm sure there are many undiagnosed cases in Italy but still, the difference is stunning.

I'm sure, the Ohio figure is overblown and not a slight on the good Governor there, I'm sure he's alright but still.

[bigheadfred]

Just for comparison's sake:

So, per these facts, Ohio has a lot more cases of Coronavirus, yes, I'm sure there are many undiagnosed cases in Italy but still, the difference is stunning.

I'm sure, the Ohio figure is overblown and not a slight on the good Governor there, I'm sure he's alright but still.

Obviously Trump's Fault.  We got 'im now!

Pardon my French someone's ass is going to handed to oblivion. Roomba.

If you had any factual relevance to your posts, meaning that yougivefuckalot you might have some standing. Might. Trump has made the NithCircus to a back alley comedy act.

He is a taker. I am a giver.

He hasn't taken away anything I have already given.

[TomSea]

CDC’s Worst-Case Coronavirus Model: 214 Million Infected, 1.7 Million Dead
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/cdcs-worst-case-coronavirus-model-210m-infected-1-7m-dead.html

I'll repeat as said in the other thread, even if somehow one says, well, 97.5 who die are the elderly,  of the other millions infected, a lot of them will apparently still need medicines and maybe hospital stays.  How does the system handle that?

And no, CDC is not gospel and what they say does not necessarily mean it will come true.

[TomSea]

RNC Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel tested for coronavirus after symptoms

Republican National Committee (RNC) Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel has been tested for the coronavirus after experiencing a fever and flu-like symptoms, the organization said on Saturday.

“Last night, Chairwoman McDaniel began experiencing a fever and flu-like symptoms, and she went to her local hospital in Michigan for treatment. Flu and strep tests were administered and came back negative,” Communications Director Michael Ahrens said.

“Her doctor determined a test for COVID-19 was necessary given her symptoms,” he said.

Read more at: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/rnc-chairwomen-ronna-mcdaniel-tested-coronavirus

This is who Donna Brazile told to "go to ...."....

[TomSea]

Retired Senator Orrin Hatch of all people, retweeted this out:

coronavirus Mar. 10, 2020
What Does ‘Social Distancing’ Really Mean?
By Katie Heaney  @KTHeaney

As COVID-19 continues to spread across the world, public-health recommendations grow more stringent: Italy is currently on lockdown, while in the United States, several states have declared states of emergency, schools are closing, events are being canceled, and stockpiling continues. Healthy citizens’ movements remain largely unrestricted, and confirmed cases in the U.S. appear relatively low. But we know domestic testing for coronavirus is woefully limited, and public-health experts expect continued community transmission across the country — particularly if we don’t take more drastic measures, like social distancing.

Social distancing refers to a public-health protection measure meant to reduce and slow transmission of disease. Currently, social distancing is neither required nor enforced in the United States, though sick people are expected to self-quarantine and seek medical help. (It is not yet clear how people without paid sick leave will be able to do so.) But as a recent Vox graph shows, protective measures like self-quarantine and canceled events can vastly reduce the number of COVID-19 cases, and experts say it’s one of the best public-health measures we have. So what does social distancing look like? (Can you still have friends over? Can you go to the gym?) We got in touch with Lori Uscher-Pines, a senior health-policy researcher at the RAND Corporation, a nonprofit global policy think tank, to learn more.

Why is social distancing important?

In an infectious-disease outbreak, there are two types of intervention: pharmaceutical (like vaccines and anti-virals) and non-pharmaceutical, explains Uscher-Pines. Social distancing is one of the best — and the only — preemptive, non-pharmaceutical measures available on the larger population level. “Social distancing plays a big role before the medical community can create vaccines and appropriate treatments,” says Uscher-Pines. “It’s one of the only tools that we have to really slow down the progress of an epidemic or pandemic.”

Read more at: https://www.thecut.com/2020/03/what-is-social-distancing.html

This is a real buzz-phrase going around. So, sort of a public service message.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Don't care about the entertainment business.  I am traveling.   I am going to dollar-movie theaters to see old releases.  Don't know why you feel the need to panic over this.

in that case

[libertybele]

South Korea’s coronavirus response is the opposite of China and Italy – and it’s working
https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/health-environment/article/3075164/south-koreas-coronavirus-response-opposite-china-and

Thanks for the info.  One thing that S. Korea is doing -- people ARE wearing masks.  So the CDC was wrong to tell people not to wear masks. If I recall correctly, today it was mentioned during the press conference that companies will be making 30 million masks a month.  So -- hopefully, in time people will have masks to protect them.

Unfortunately, the masks I purchased a couple of years ago expired -- I had no idea that there was an expiration date on them.  Haven't heard from @Victoria33  in awhile -- something she may be able to clarify.  Would wearing an expired mask be better than nothing??

[Hoodat]

in that case

I am not sitting in a burning building.  And neither are you.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Didn't realize Trump was assigned the task of ensuring your local supermarket stocked enough toilet paper for any contingency.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/398887965302091776

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
    Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible.
    1:01 PM · Nov 8, 2013

But since you seem to want to put this off on Trump, the DOW today is up 17% since Trump took office.  For someone who chooses to put it all on the President, a little praise is in order, don't you think?

"Mr. President, I want to thank you so much. I said, what did I do? He said my 401K is down 20% in 2 weeks and my wife thinks I'm, for the first time, a financial genius."

[DB]

Thanks for the info.  One thing that S. Korea is doing -- people ARE wearing masks.  So the CDC was wrong to tell people not to wear masks. If I recall correctly, today it was mentioned during the press conference that companies will be making 30 million masks a month.  So -- hopefully, in time people will have masks to protect them.

Unfortunately, the masks I purchased a couple of years ago expired -- I had no idea that there was an expiration date on them.  Haven't heard from @Victoria33  in awhile -- something she may be able to clarify.  Would wearing an expired mask be better than nothing??

The N95 type masks may have activated carbon for a filter. That carbon will absorb things from the air if not completely sealed. Once it absorbs too much it becomes saturated and doesn't filter things as well as it is rated for when later used.

Also note you can only use a mask once. 30 million masks a month isn't enough for a large population like SK.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

   All these sports nuts are having to pay attention to their wives now, so I also expect the divorce rate to shoot up in America.

@corbe
If we are cooped up inside for long I predict a baby boom.

[libertybele]

The N95 type masks may have activated carbon for a filter. That carbon will absorb things from the air if not completely sealed. Once it absorbs too much it becomes saturated and doesn't filter things as well as it is rated for when later used.

Also note you can only use a mask once. 30 million masks a month isn't enough for a large population like SK.

I have two types of masks the N95 type and anti-viral.  It is the anti-viral that has an expiration date.  Thanks for the info, I really didn't think about only using the mask once. 

We've decided not to venture out anymore and are staying home.

[corbe]

   I certainly hope so @Once-Ler

[Elderberry]

Hoarding bros hoping to profiteer off coronavirus stuck with 17K bottles of hand sanitizer

NY Post by Dean Balsamini 3/14/2020

https://nypost.com/2020/03/14/hoarding-bros-hoping-to-profiteer-off-coronavirus-stuck-with-17k-bottles-of-hand-sanitizer/

Brothers, can you spare a hand santizer?

Matt and Noah Colvin cooked up a get-rich scheme to glom all of the antibacterial wipes and hand sanitizers they could find after the first U.S. coronavirus was reported March 1 and make a killing on the re-sale, according to a New York Times interview.

The Colvins — piloting a silver SUV — snapped up all the sanitizers they could find across Tennessee and Kentucky. They thought they were on the road to Easy Street when the first 300 bottles of hand sanitizer they purchased sold out for between $8 and $70 a pop, which was “multiples higher than what he had bought them for,” the Times story said.

    EBay is prohibiting any US sales of masks or sanitizer

The brothers cleaned out a Dollar Tree, a Walmart, Staples and Home Depot and bought thousands of packs of antibacterial wipes from “little hole-in-the-wall dollar stores in the backwoods,” the Times reported.

More at link.

Map of coronavirus cases in the US