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A Fair Senate Impeachment Trial? That’s What They’re Afraid Of
« on: January 13, 2020, 03:22:42 pm »
A Fair Senate Impeachment Trial? That’s What They’re Afraid Of

Mitch McConnell will not abide by the kangaroo court rules Adam Schiff used in the House and Nancy Pelosi seeks to impose on the Senate.
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- January 12th, 2020


On January 7, Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) wrote her Democratic colleagues to explain her strategy and to respond to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell’s (R-Ky.) announcement that he would not negotiate impeachment trial procedures with the House. Instead, McConnell simply plans to use the procedures employed in the Clinton impeachment. Pelosi responded by writing:

    Sadly, Leader McConnell has made clear that his loyalty is to the President and not the Constitution. Leader McConnell has insisted that the approach under consideration is identical to those of the Clinton trial and that “fair is fair.” This is simply not true. This process is not only unfair but designed to deprive Senators and the American people of crucial documents and testimony. Under the Clinton trial, witnesses were deposed.

    I encourage you to review the attached document from Leader Schumer, which exposes Leader McConnell’s misleading claims about the Clinton trial process that are being used to justify the GOP’s decision to cover up witnesses and documentation that would fully expose the President’s wrongdoing.

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Re: A Fair Senate Impeachment Trial? That’s What They’re Afraid Of
« Reply #1 on: January 13, 2020, 03:34:57 pm »
The Dems' goals are obvious, to those willing to recognize them:

* Unending open-ended fishing expeditions;

* Usurping Presidential authority and rendering the Trump Administration unable to exercise it.
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Re: A Fair Senate Impeachment Trial? That’s What They’re Afraid Of
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2020, 03:47:47 pm »
It sounds like Pelosi thinks the rules in the Clinton Impeachment were slanted toward Clinton. :pondering:
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Re: A Fair Senate Impeachment Trial? That’s What They’re Afraid Of
« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2020, 10:40:44 pm »
Pelosi is bat sh*t crazy, so absolutely nothing she says is credible.  I say take a vote on what the House has presented, and decide to move forward or sh*t can the entire nonsense.  And any Republicans that vote to have the trial should be primaried.

Let the people decide in November.  The Dems are getting buried either way.  They have squandered four years on nothing but impeachment.  I say impeach every last one of them in November, except AOC.  She stays as the architect of the Dems, and the Dems will never control anything.
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Re: A Fair Senate Impeachment Trial? That’s What They’re Afraid Of
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2020, 11:03:29 pm »
Witnesses:
  • Ciaramella
  • Schiff
  • Yovanovitch
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Re: A Fair Senate Impeachment Trial? That’s What They’re Afraid Of
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2020, 11:38:58 pm »
jafo wrote:
"Pelosi is bat sh*t crazy, so absolutely nothing she says is credible.  I say take a vote on what the House has presented, and decide to move forward or sh*t can the entire nonsense.  And any Republicans that vote to have the trial should be primaried."

I agree.

As I posted earlier, the first order of Senate business should be a request for the immediate delivery of the paperwork from the House. Kind of like requesting "service of process". I'm only guessing, but I sense that if the Republican Senate pushes this through on a partisan vote, and if the time by which to comply is limited to, say, 24-48 hours, Pelosi will balk and won't respond.

That's fine. Actually, it's what we want.
But it doesn't matter whether she responds, or not, because...

...The NEXT order of business should be a vote by the Senators as to whether it's proper to proceed on the basis of evidence presented. Consider this "the arraignment", if you like. Are "the charges" sufficient to warrant a trial?

Without sufficient evidence (of course, there never WAS any), the next vote by the Senate should be to DISMISS the impeachment on its face, as insufficient to proceed. It's important that the documentation for such vote include that impeachment proceedings can only proceed upon the introduction of proper evidence, and that there has been none in this case. If need be, there should also be a vote to summarily acquit Mr. Trump of any supposed charges before the Senate at that moment.

Why do this?
Because the object should be not only to "acquit" Mr. Trump, but also to deliver a REBUKE to the House for pushing frivolous charges under the guise of "impeachment". The goal here is to restore impeachment as a Constitutional process that is necessary for the prosecution of actual "high crimes and misdemeanors", as distinguished from anti-Trump hatred.

If the Senate doesn't do this, even if they acquit Mr. Trump this time, it will be only a matter of months before the democrat-communists start a new "impeachment", all over again...
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