Author Topic: GOP Strategist Says Senate 'Up For Grabs' in 2020 (Read 990 times)

mystery-ak · « **on:** January 02, 2020, 08:13:35 pm »

Theodore Bunker | Thursday, 02 January 2020 01:52 PM

Republicans could lose their Senate majority and seats in the House in the upcoming 2020 election, a longtime GOP strategist told Newsweek on Thursday.

John Weaver, former presidential campaign adviser for Sen. John McCain and President George H.W. Bush, told Newsweek that although the odds are â€œnot great yetâ€ that the party will lose control of the Senate, he admits that seats in Arizona and Colorado are â€œin jeopardyâ€ of going to Democrats.

Weaver and a group of Republicans, including attorney George Conway, founded the Lincoln Project opposing President Donald Trump last year.

When asked about the GOP losing seats in the House and Senate, Weaver said: â€œThe Republican seats that are in jeopardy â€” Arizona, Colorado, North Carolina, Maine, Iowa â€”those are all states where Trump is trending downwards. So yes, I do believe that control of the Senate is up for grabs."

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https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/senate-house-republicans/2020/01/02/id/948136/

skeeter · « **Reply #1 on:** January 02, 2020, 08:23:53 pm »

Read: unless you in the GOP base get back to voting for the likes of my clients and I can get back to having a job, well then youâ€™ll lose the Senate.

More sour grapes from the establishment types.

Applewood · « **Reply #2 on:** January 02, 2020, 08:45:42 pm »

I don't think Trump's popularity necessarily translates into wins for other Republicans. Voters may absolve Trump of blame for the party's inertia during the time when it held the presidency and majorities in both houses of congress. But that absolution may not extend to the senate. Republicans already lost the house, so it's conceivable they could lose the senate too.

So whether you like Mr. Weaver or not, he may be right.

skeeter · « **Reply #3 on:** January 02, 2020, 08:53:26 pm »

Quote from: Applewood on January 02, 2020, 08:45:42 pm

I don't think Trump's popularity necessarily translates into wins for other Republicans. Voters may absolve Trump of blame for the party's inertia during the time when it held the presidency and majorities in both houses of congress. But that absolution may not extend to the senate. Republicans already lost the house, so it's conceivable they could lose the senate too.

So whether you like Mr. Weaver or not, he may be right.

Of course he may be right. In the same way the Global Climate Change fanatics are right the weather will change. But he is a biased source so I'll get my info elsewhere.

truth_seeker · « **Reply #4 on:** January 02, 2020, 09:22:54 pm »

Important question:

Did GOP strategist Weaver, predict Trump's win?

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #5 on:** January 02, 2020, 11:40:26 pm »

I agree with the Author about Arizona. I fully expect to see McSally lose to the crackpot astronaut this November.

sneakypete · « **Reply #6 on:** January 03, 2020, 12:15:32 am »

Quote from: mystery-ak on January 02, 2020, 08:13:35 pm

Theodore Bunker | Thursday, 02 January 2020 01:52 PM

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John Weaver, former presidential campaign adviser for Sen. John McCain and President George H.W. Bush,

Right there is where I stopped reading. That SOB needs to be dragged outside and beaten to within an inch of his life,not listened to.

What the HELL does he know about being a Republican?

sneakypete · « **Reply #7 on:** January 03, 2020, 12:17:24 am »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 02, 2020, 11:40:26 pm

I agree with the Author about Arizona. I fully expect to see McSally lose to the crackpot astronaut this November.

@Cyber Liberty

Americans are probably close to being a minority in Arizona by now. Within 20 years Spanish will be their official language.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #8 on:** January 03, 2020, 12:19:58 am »

Quote from: sneakypete on January 03, 2020, 12:17:24 am

@Cyber Liberty

Americans are probably close to being a minority in Arizona by now. Within 20 years Spanish will be their official language.

@sneakypete

Probably. The corner of the state to which I fled from Phoenix will be the last bastion.

Fishrrman · « **Reply #9 on:** January 03, 2020, 01:32:01 am »

"John Weaver, former presidential campaign adviser for Sen. John McCain and President George H.W. Bush..."

Sounds like someone we should really be listenin' to, eh...?

Nevertheless, fight for every seat!

Fishrrman · « **Reply #10 on:** January 03, 2020, 01:35:27 am »

Sneakin' Pete wrote:
"Americans are probably close to being a minority in Arizona by now. Within 20 years Spanish will be their official language."

Of course you're right about that.
Look what happened to New Mexico in the last ten years -- that's what's gonna happen to Arizona next.

And eventually... to Texas, as well.
When that happens... it's over.

EdinVA · « **Reply #11 on:** January 03, 2020, 01:41:42 am »

Well, then maybe it is time for the GOP to find a good strategist...

Applewood · « **Reply #12 on:** January 03, 2020, 03:20:03 am »

Well, guys, you can scoff at this fellow, bury your heads in the sand, confident that Republicans will keep the senate because of Trump. How well did this strategy work during the last house elections?

Chosen Daughter · « **Reply #13 on:** January 03, 2020, 06:20:57 am »

Quote from: Applewood on January 03, 2020, 03:20:03 am

Well, guys, you can scoff at this fellow, bury your heads in the sand, confident that Republicans will keep the senate because of Trump. How well did this strategy work during the last house elections?

Certainly Trump will be losing Republican voters in New Jersey. Republicans can gain Trumps support merely by talking nice about him. In Van Drews case he was the Democrat that didn't vote for impeachment. Now Trump supports the Democrat over the Republican candidate in New Jersey.

https://www.newsweek.com/republican-opponent-calls-jeff-van-drew-desperate-democrat-reportedly-plans-switch-party-1477341

Formerly Once-Ler · « **Reply #14 on:** January 03, 2020, 01:46:39 pm »

Quote from: Applewood on January 03, 2020, 03:20:03 am

Well, guys, you can scoff at this fellow, bury your heads in the sand, confident that Republicans will keep the senate because of Trump. How well did this strategy work during the last house elections?

I'm imagining IMPOTUS wining re-election with a rat House and Senate and it sounds darkly hilarious, and perhaps the quickest way towards President Pence.

I wouldn't worry about losing the Senate. Every Trumper knows President Trump is a team player who will tirelessly fight for the GOP. He would never betray his deep core convictions...his love of the flag, Christmas, the Constitution and America...and you, and me, and all of us, with a limitless love.
Trump's Love Trumps Hate!
Would you like to read some literature? < passes pamphlet to @Applewood >

libertybele · « **Reply #15 on:** January 03, 2020, 01:55:47 pm »

Quote from: Applewood on January 03, 2020, 03:20:03 am

Well, guys, you can scoff at this fellow, bury your heads in the sand, confident that Republicans will keep the senate because of Trump. How well did this strategy work during the last house elections?

IMHO one thing is now a game changer; President Trump's response to Iran = Leadership. His actions will hep those in the Senate keep their seats, gain some seats and quite possibly we will see the same in the House. We have months before the general election and lots can happen. I think we will see that this will be Trump's best year yet.

He is not perfect, his character is flawed here and there, and perhaps I don't agree with some of his domestic policies and actions, but he has definitely proven to be a Leader of the United States of America and a Patriot.

Jazzhead · « **Reply #16 on:** January 03, 2020, 01:56:51 pm »

Making this election a referendum on President Trump rather than his policies has the side effect of placing the Senate at risk. I have been urging for months that Trump be replaced as the GOP nominee, for exactly this reason. The ultimate disaster - radicalized Dem control of all branches of government - is a foreseeable outcome of Trump's balls-out style of governance.

libertybele · « **Reply #17 on:** January 03, 2020, 02:05:43 pm »

Quote from: Jazzhead on January 03, 2020, 01:56:51 pm

Making this election a referendum on President Trump rather than his policies has the side effect of placing the Senate at risk. I have been urging for months that Trump be replaced as the GOP nominee, for exactly this reason. The ultimate disaster - radicalized Dem control of all branches of government - is a foreseeable outcome of Trump's balls-out style of governance.

Yes, the DEMS are exactly trying to make this election a referendum on Trump, but what 'policies' are the DEMS running on? Socialism? Gun control? Bogus impeachment? Bogus Russian collusion? One payer healthcare? Higher taxes?

Seriously?

Formerly Once-Ler · « **Reply #18 on:** January 03, 2020, 02:13:33 pm »

Quote from: libertybele on January 03, 2020, 02:05:43 pm

Yes, the DEMS are exactly trying to make this election a referendum on Trump, but what 'policies' are the DEMS running on? Socialism? Gun control? Bogus impeachment? Bogus Russian collusion? One payer healthcare? Higher taxes?

Seriously?

rats are running on "Not Trump" and it will be enough unless President Trump can make the rat candidate less liked than Trump is. Trump's negatives are very high. It will be a hard task.

sneakypete · « **Reply #19 on:** January 03, 2020, 02:16:41 pm »

Quote from: Chosen Daughter on January 03, 2020, 06:20:57 am

Certainly Trump will be losing Republican voters in New Jersey.

Both of them? What a tragedy!

@Chosen Daughter

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Now Trump supports the Democrat over the Republican candidate in New Jersey.

Generally speaking a New Jersey Republican has more in common with a NYC Dim than he does an American,so it's usually no big loss. Crying about it is akin to becoming suicidal if Romney switches parties.

sneakypete · « **Reply #20 on:** January 03, 2020, 02:20:02 pm »

Quote from: Jazzhead on January 03, 2020, 01:56:51 pm

Making this election a referendum on President Trump rather than his policies has the side effect of placing the Senate at risk. I have been urging for months that Trump be replaced as the GOP nominee, for exactly this reason. The ultimate disaster - radicalized Dem control of all branches of government - is a foreseeable outcome of Trump's balls-out style of governance.

@Jazzhead

Yeah,well,it's not like you haven't been wrong before. You seem to be unable to make up your mind if you are a leftist or a conservative,so you always go for the muddled middle. Which is the kind of thinking that is responsible for us getting into this mess to start with.

sneakypete · « **Reply #21 on:** January 03, 2020, 02:21:30 pm »

Quote from: libertybele on January 03, 2020, 02:05:43 pm

Yes, the DEMS are exactly trying to make this election a referendum on Trump, but what 'policies' are the DEMS running on? Socialism? Gun control? Bogus impeachment? Bogus Russian collusion? One payer healthcare? Higher taxes?

Seriously?

@libertybele

It can be summed up as "Orange man BAD!"

Jazzhead · « **Reply #22 on:** January 03, 2020, 02:44:15 pm »

Quote from: sneakypete on January 03, 2020, 02:20:02 pm

@Jazzhead

Yeah,well,it's not like you haven't been wrong before. You seem to be unable to make up your mind if you are a leftist or a conservative,so you always go for the muddled middle. Which is the kind of thinking that is responsible for us getting into this mess to start with.

This is nothing to do with the "muddled middle". I'll say it plainly - if the election centers on Trump's conservative, America-centric policies, the GOP can win. But if it centers on Trump's tweets and polarizing leadership style, both he and the GOP are vulnerable.

There is a flip side to Trump's fan service to his base - the opposition is ready to walk through walls to defeat him, and while they're in the booth, to vote for Dem Congressional candidates.

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #23 on:** January 03, 2020, 02:47:24 pm »

Quote from: Applewood on January 02, 2020, 08:45:42 pm

I don't think Trump's popularity necessarily translates into wins for other Republicans. Voters may absolve Trump of blame for the party's inertia during the time when it held the presidency and majorities in both houses of congress. But that absolution may not extend to the senate. Republicans already lost the house, so it's conceivable they could lose the senate too.

So whether you like Mr. Weaver or not, he may be right.

Hopefully, the loss of some seats last time will lead to a fresh crop of new Representatives who will actually be more conservative in practice as the Dims are replaced. As for the Senate, we'll see. Right now, it is what is stopping the Dmis from running roughshod over the works, unless Trump got a box of veto pens for Christmas.

sneakypete · « **Reply #24 on:** January 03, 2020, 02:57:18 pm »

Quote from: Jazzhead on January 03, 2020, 02:44:15 pm

This is nothing to do with the "muddled middle". I'll say it plainly - if the election centers on Trump's conservative, America-centric policies, the GOP can win. But if it centers on Trump's tweets and polarizing leadership style, both he and the GOP are vulnerable.

There is a flip side to Trump's fan service to his base - the opposition is ready to walk through walls to defeat him, and while they're in the booth, to vote for Dem Congressional candidates.

@Jazzhead

Nobody here focuses on that other than the Never Trumpers/Anti-Trumpers. Everybody else focuses on what he does and ignores what he says. I personally don't give a damn if he eats crap and barks at the moon,as long as he continues to protect America from attack,builds the wall,shuts down illegal immigration,deports illegals,and protects our economy from unfair trade practices.

He's my president,NOT my daddy.

Dims want daddy's,Republicans want presidents.