Nancy Pelosi refuses to commit to sending articles of impeachment to Senate

[240B]

If Pelosi continues to obstruct justice deliberately and with intent.
And if the Senate declares a mistrial because of Pelosi's behavior.
Then they can say anything they want. It's all meaningless. Trump is not impeached.

He will go to every rally laughing and laughing about how the Dems tried to impeach him and failed.
Trump will be laughing about all this anyway. And then, you know Pelosi...., and then she refused to go to trial hahaahahaha
Because they had NOTHING! Trump is going have a blast with this whole thing in only the way he can.
On twitter, in his rallies. No matter what Pelosi does, Trump is going to beat the Dems over the head with this fiasco the entire campaign.

I do not know if there is a way to charge Pelosi with obstruction.
I do not know if there is a way to compel Pelosi to deliver the indictment.
I do not know if there is a time limit on how long she can squat on it,
but as long as she does Trump is not impeached. And he will be tweeting and having fun with that the whole time.

Remember, the idiot Liberals think he is on his way to jail and that Hillary is going to become President.
They are having parties all this week because they think Trump is out of office. He has been deposed.
When they find out that not only is he not going to jail, not only is he not deposed, but he is not even impeached because of Pelosi.
Their heads will explode.
And they will feel like Pelosi lied to them. She duped them. And she did.

[mystery-ak]

‘Incredibly dumb and dangerous’: Lindsey Graham rips Pelosi for not sending impeachment articles to Senate
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/incredibly-dumb-and-dangerous-lindsey-graham-rips-pelosi-for-refusing-to-send-impeachment-to-senate

[240B]

Why in the world? What could possibly compel McConnell to NEGOTIATE with Pelosi.
This is all her project, not his! If she wants to throw it all in the shitcan then so what?
That is her problem. McConnell has no incentive to give her anything. Screw her!
Pelosi is delusional. She is not in the power position.

[txradioguy]

What McConnell needs to do is send a formal letter to Pelosi to inform her that he's set a deadline of noon Friday to receive the articles of impeachment in the Senate otherwise the who thing will be summarily dismissed and declared null and void.

[240B]

What McConnell needs to do is send a formal letter to Pelosi to inform her that he's set a deadline of noon Friday to receive the articles of impeachment in the Senate otherwise the who thing will be summarily dismissed and declared null and void.

Exactly right

I wrote those exact words in another thread.

[txradioguy]

Exactly right

I wrote those exact words in another thread.

@240B oops my bad.  I didn't see what you'd wrote.  I've been off the net for a couple days.

I guess it's the whole GMTA ting. 

The only real question is...does Turtle have the balls to actually do something like that?

[240B]

@240B oops my bad.  I didn't see what you'd wrote.  I've been off the net for a couple days.

I guess it's the whole GMTA ting. 

The only real question is...does Turtle have the balls to actually do something like that?

No, no, didn't mean it like that at all. I was simply impressed how much we think the same.

[mystery-ak]

Pelosi stands by delay in sending impeachment articles to Senate, calls McConnell a ‘rogue leader’
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-delay-impeachment-mcconnell

[txradioguy]

Pelosi stands by delay in sending impeachment articles to Senate, calls McConnell a ‘rogue leader’
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pelosi-delay-impeachment-mcconnell

Someone needs to inform this tired old hag that a) despite what she thinks she's not on equal standing power wise with the President and b) she's not the Queen.

She's somehow deluded herself into thinking that she calls the shots for alllll of Congress and everyone has to do what she says or else.

Sorry Nancy that's NOT how it works.

[sneakypete]

Democrats rally behind Pelosi on delay of articles
https://thehill.com/homenews/house/475284-democrats-rally-behind-pelosi-on-delay-of-articles

@mystery-ak

What else are they going to do,pay for their re-election campaigns with their credit cards?

[Bigun]

Mark Levin·Thursday, December 19, 2019·Reading time: 1 minute

Nancy Pelosi was apparently advised by leftwing Harvard law professor Lawrence Tribe to delay sending the impeachment to the Senate. So she’s unilaterally sitting on the impeachment. This is another brazen unconstitutional act.

Here’s what Mitch McConnell and the Senate Republicans must do in response: The Senate has the sole power under the Constitution to adjudicate an impeachment. Therefore, Pelosi is attempting to obstruct the Senate’s power to act on its constitutional authority. McConnell should immediately put an end to this and declare the impeachment null and void as the speaker has failed to complete the impeachment process by timely sending it to the Senate for adjudication. McConnell has no less authority to unilaterally make such a decision than Pelosi does to withhold the administrative notification of an impeachment to the Senate either indefinitely or with conditions. Her effort to cripple the presidency and blackmail the Senate must be defeated.

[XenaLee]

As Pelosi would be the first to tell you, the Constitution is silent on the timing of the transmittal of the Articles to the Senate.  It's also silent on whether the Senate has to wait for a transmittal.  I suspect that's what McConnell will do if it becomes obvious the Rats are trying to stall the Trial.

The GOP needs to pummel the rats with the question "If it was so "urgent" that you had to rush the thing through the House, effectively denying Trump his due process, then why the wait now?"   

We all know the "why", of course.  It's for effect and because they know the GOP already stated that they would dismiss it ASAP.  But I would direct that question to them every day that Pelosi delays and force them to "explain" themselves to the media and to the American public.

[Cyber Liberty]

The GOP needs to pummel the rats with the question "If it was so "urgent" that you had to rush the thing through the House, effectively denying Trump his due process, then why the wait now?"   

We all know the "why", of course.  It's for effect and because they know the GOP already stated that they would dismiss it ASAP.  But I would direct that question to them every day that Pelosi delays and force them to "explain" themselves to the media and to the American public.

The Rats think they can call the shots in the Trial, the way they did in the Impeachment.  McConnell had better not let them do it.

[Fishrrman]

The Christmas recess is about to begin.
This means that the House/Senate won't reconvene until just after January 1, is that correct?

If that's the case, not much can be done by the Pubbies right now, but perhaps it's best to just "let this stew" for the next two weeks, in the minds of the voters as well. Perhaps it will make for some interesting "town halls" between the democrat-communist representatives and their constituents.

As soon as the Senate reconvenes, Mr. McConnell ought to call for some kind of vote by the entire Senate, to wit:
Set a cutoff date (give the House 2 days) to deliver the articles of impeachment, or an immediate vote will be called to either convict or acquit based on "the evidence presented" at that time.

And then... do it.

[libertybele]

The Rats think they can call the shots in the Trial, the way they did in the Impeachment.  McConnell had better not let them do it.

Well, I have very little faith in McConnell and exactly why I stated early on that we could very well see Trump being removed from office. 

Either way this goes, it is not good for the country and possible uprising in the streets could result.  Too many LIV leftist mental midgets are expecting impeachment to result in removal and too many Trump supporters may possibly become unglued if he is.

[Lando Lincoln]

The left doesn't care about the harm they inflict (on individuals or the Country) as long as they gain power.  That is so painfully and incredibly obvious.

Look, their near-term goal is to delegitimize Trump - as President and now especially as a candidate.  The MSM will breathlessly do their bidding with the messaging and the Useful Idiots will buy it completely.  Never before has it been so important to support Republicans with campaign support and $$$.  And this is no time, in my view, to be parsing the Conservative vs. Republican argument.  I know not all Republicans are Conservative, but in this arena all Conservatives are Republican. 

I will never, ever vote for anyone but a Republican. 

[Bigun]

The left doesn't care about the harm they inflict (on individuals or the Country) as long as they gain power.  That is so painfully and incredibly obvious.

Look, their near-term goal is to delegitimize Trump - as President and now especially as a candidate.  The MSM will breathlessly do their bidding with the messaging and the Useful Idiots will buy it completely.  Never before has it been so important to support Republicans with campaign support and $$$.  And this is no time, in my view, to be parsing the Conservative vs. Republican argument.  I know not all Republicans are Conservative, but in this arena all Conservatives are Republican. 

I will never, ever vote for anyone but a Republican.

@Lando Lincoln For Democrats and unfortunately too many Republicans the public treasury is their lifeblood. They cannot exist without their tap on it.

Cleta Mitchell said it best in an article she wrote back in the year 2000 for the Wall Street Journal.  The title: "If we don't win We don't eat!"

[XenaLee]

Well, I have very little faith in McConnell and exactly why I stated early on that we could very well see Trump being removed from office. 

Either way this goes, it is not good for the country and possible uprising in the streets could result.  Too many LIV leftist mental midgets are expecting impeachment to result in removal and too many Trump supporters may possibly become unglued if he is.

Not one GOPer voted in the House against Trump for those bogus articles.   Not even the RINOs.  The Senate GOPers are sure as hell not going to cut their own political throats by voting for removal of Trump from office.   That's reality.   That is "why" Pelosi is delaying sending the thing to the House.   She knows damned well it's going to be laughed out of the Senate....

derisively.

[Lando Lincoln]

@Lando Lincoln For Democrats and unfortunately too many Republicans the public treasury is their lifeblood. They cannot exist without their tap on it.

Cleta Mitchell said it best in an article she wrote back in the year 2000 for the Wall Street Journal.  The title: "If we don't win We don't eat!"

True enough.

[roamer_1]

2) Announce that the House has just wasted a whole lot of taxpayer time and money to try to remove a duly elected President, and now are refusing to send over the articles.  If the House isn't going to send over the articles, then he's not going to waste the Senate's time debating rules for a trial that may never happen.  So unless and until the House sends over the articles of impeachment, the Senate is going to move on to other matters, and considers the impeachment over.  If the House ever does decide to send over the articles, then the Senate will begin discussing the rules it will use for the trial.

A little early, but I wonder if there isn't a long bet here... Withholding the articles allows the impeachment to be an electoral cudgel without resolution... And the bet would be toward winning the Senate before proceeding.. 

[Maj. Bill Martin]

A little early, but I wonder if there isn't a long bet here... Withholding the articles allows the impeachment to be an electoral cudgel without resolution... And the bet would be toward winning the Senate before proceeding.. 

So you mean the Democrats plan is to win the Senate before proceeding with impeachment?

First, I think it very unlikely that they win the Senate but lose the Presidency.  And if they win both the Senate and the Presidency...what's the point?  He'll be out of office when the new Senate takes power.

Second, they'd still need 67 votes to convict, and they can't win that many seats even if every Republican running loses.

[roamer_1]

So you mean the Democrats plan is to win the Senate before proceeding with impeachment?

First, I think it very unlikely that they win the Senate but lose the Presidency.  And if they win both the Senate and the Presidency...what's the point?  He'll be out of office when the new Senate takes power.

Second, they'd still need 67 votes to convict, and they can't win that many seats even if every Republican running loses.

Yeah, I don't know. It's a new thought circling around what motive there could be in withholding the articles... It is a strange thing (precedential) . Likely a bluff toward trying to control the Senate trial as many opine - But that seems rather transparent to me, and subject to abject failure. So where's the money shot?

[Maj. Bill Martin]

Yeah, I don't know. It's a new thought circling around what motive there could be in withholding the articles... It is a strange thing (precedential) . Likely a bluff toward trying to control the Senate trial as many opine - But that seems rather transparent to me, and subject to abject failure. So where's the money shot?

I'm not sure if there is one.  I think Pelosi understands what a lot of people knew when this process first began -- that the Senate trial would end up helping Trump, because it would focus on issues the Democrats would prefer remain hidden.  So, she's reluctant to send it over when it's pretty much guaranteed to be bad for the Democrats.

She's just stuck at this point.

[roamer_1]

I'm not sure if there is one.  I think Pelosi understands what a lot of people knew when this process first began -- that the Senate trial would end up helping Trump, because it would focus on issues the Democrats would prefer remain hidden.  So, she's reluctant to send it over when it's pretty much guaranteed to be bad for the Democrats.

She's just stuck at this point.

I see what you are saying...

But I am rather obliged to suppose more astute machination. if for no other reason than to predict the other shoe falling IF and IN CASE there is actually a strategy here. I would not be quick to dismiss a strategic endgame. And I do not believe Pelosi to be the architect. Somebody is driving this game.

Sorry... Just me. I am always looking far (to the detriment of the near). Critical-path thinking and all. And I assume the same in an opponent. All the trouble they went to predicts another move. It feels like there is an option here, and I am just not seeing it. 

[XenaLee]

I see what you are saying...

But I am rather obliged to suppose more astute machination. if for no other reason than to predict the other shoe falling IF and IN CASE there is actually a strategy here. I would not be quick to dismiss a strategic endgame. And I do not believe Pelosi to be the architect. Somebody is driving this game.

Sorry... Just me. I am always looking far (to the detriment of the near). Critical-path thinking and all. And I assume the same in an opponent. All the trouble they went to predicts another move. It feels like there is an option here, and I am just not seeing it.