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The Feds Don’t Need To Tell You Or Get A Warrant To Collect Your Emails And Phone Records
« on: December 08, 2019, 03:16:07 pm »
The Feds Don’t Need To Tell You Or Get A Warrant To Collect Your Emails And Phone Records
In reality, the government can obtain electronic communication records without taking any extraordinary measures. There are very few limitations on this congressional power.

By Leslie McAdoo Gordon
December 6, 2019

This week in the impeachment proceedings in the House of Representatives, Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif., the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, released his report on the inquiry to date. The report included records of telephone calls of President Trump’s personal attorney, Rudy Giuliani, and another man, Lev Parnas, who was reportedly assisting Giuliani in his investigation of alleged activities in Ukraine or by Ukrainians to interfere in the 2016 election. These records included calls allegedly with Devin Nunes, R-Calif., the ranking minority member on the Intelligence Committee, and John Solomon, a prominent journalist.

Americans began querying how Schiff could have obtained the phone call records for the report. Some speculated that a secret warrant had been sought for them, that someone at the carrier (AT&T) had leaked them, that the National Security Agency had been tasked with obtaining them, or that a federal agency had issued a “natsec” letter to acquire them for the intelligence committee.

In reality, the government can obtain these records without taking any such extraordinary measures — and no judge even need be involved for Congress to get them. It can simply send a subpoena to the carrier.

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Re: The Feds Don’t Need To Tell You Or Get A Warrant To Collect Your Emails And Phone Records
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2019, 06:23:33 pm »
I read in another thread the FBI would have had to be involved to get the FSL used to collect Nune's phone records.  Wray is now implicated in this phone record scandal.
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Re: The Feds Don’t Need To Tell You Or Get A Warrant To Collect Your Emails And Phone Records
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2019, 06:36:40 pm »
No warrant needed?  Excellent.  Then let's see Eric Ciaramella's phone records for the past five years.
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Re: The Feds Don’t Need To Tell You Or Get A Warrant To Collect Your Emails And Phone Records
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2019, 08:28:50 pm »
Quote from: Hoodat on December 08, 2019, 06:36:40 pm
No warrant needed?  Excellent.  Then let's see Eric Ciaramella's phone records for the past five years.
Well, no........because some animals are more equal than others don't ya know.

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Re: The Feds Don’t Need To Tell You Or Get A Warrant To Collect Your Emails And Phone Records
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2019, 10:42:42 pm »
Well...if they want to read my recipes and rants about the Cowboys...rock on.

Why anybody puts personal information on the internet eludes me.
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Re: The Feds Don’t Need To Tell You Or Get A Warrant To Collect Your Emails And Phone Records
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2019, 12:00:49 am »
"The Feds Don’t Need To Tell You Or Get A Warrant To Collect Your Emails And Phone Records
In reality, the government can obtain electronic communication records without taking any extraordinary measures. There are very few limitations on this congressional power."

That's why I propose this:
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Citizens protected by this Constitution possess an inalienable right to privacy in their persons, businesses, and homes, and while they are in public.

It shall be a violation of this Constitution for the United States or for the several States to violate or invade the individual privacy of citizens by use of physical, mechanical, or electronic means or by the use of devices on land, on water, below the ground, or from the air.

This protection shall extend to all lawful communications and acts by an individual citizen or between two or more citizens, including content that is spoken, written, or electronically transmitted. It shall extend to citizens regardless of their location, whether in private or in public.

The only exceptions will be as governed by the Fourth Amendment of this Constitution.
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Just four short paragraphs that anyone can understand.

I would support a "Constitutional right to privacy".
Would YOU...?
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