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« Reply #125 on: October 25, 2019, 05:01:11 pm »
That is precisely why I am standing where I am...
You're not standing, you're sitting on the sidelines.

No, y'all are not, or you would be standing with me. Y'all are supporting big government. The ONLY fix is Conservatism. So why are y'all doing otherwise?
We fight for conservatism by voting for the most conservative candidates who can win...because we believe in the Republic. And living in a Republic means we have an opposition who fights for its values...liberal values...and that a Republic cannot live without SOME compromise with our opponents. You seem to believe, and will fight for, a sort of conservative tyranny in which we as conservatives rule in oligarchical fashion while refusing ANY compromise with those who disagree with our views. In other words, you are arguing not for a Republic but for a different kind of tyranny...albeit conservative tyranny.


Funny that. Because I would say the very same of you.
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« Reply #126 on: October 25, 2019, 05:06:37 pm »
EXACTLY WRONG. You cannot fight evil with evil.

ALWAYS stand against evil, lesser or otherwise.

Except that.... when it comes to politics, the term "evil" is merely subjective, not literal.   And I have used the "lesser of two evils" also in the past, incorrectly .... when it comes to describing voting decisions.   

Fact is, when you are voting for the candidate that will stave off the destruction of the country, even if that candidate is not perfect (nobody is)..... you are making the most logical decision possible, even IF you have to hold your nose while doing it, due to dislike of that candidate.   When up against the hard-core leftists, you vote however you can to keep them from power.  It's just that simple.   If you choose to abstain from voting for the "least leftist" candidate, you are allowing someone 'else' to determine the future of this nation.   

So, you see... I have changed my stance on how I vote.   Yeah, I voted for McCain/Palin and Romney even though I couldn't stand McCain and didn't trust Romney.   But I knew exactly who and what Barack Hussein Obama was and what his election meant for this country and I have no regrets, considering I had NO CHOICE.
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« Reply #127 on: October 25, 2019, 05:07:48 pm »
Lots of "human scum" represented in this thread.
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« Reply #128 on: October 25, 2019, 05:08:53 pm »
A Republic, if you can keep it.

That's worth fighting for, and THAT is what WE are fighting for. Not President Trump. Not the Party. Not, in a sense, even conservatism. We are fighting for the principle of Republican rule.

I have no illusions that shame can motivate you to fight for the Republic itself...that can only come from internalized reason and ethics.

Interesting that ethics is that last word in your statement.
Isn't that what this thread is about, the ethics of calling someone "Human Scum"?

Be careful, this is turning to an Antifa on the Right kind of argument.
In Antifa member's mind, albeit twisted, they think they are "taking the country back", also.

These dire warnings of us losing the Republic, are just that,  nothing more.
Only the marginal loud few are being heard, because it is loud, and the craziness makes news.
AOC isn't in the news daily because a majority believe her, it's because even the left who runs the media, knows that she's nuts.

Russian probe has gone away, and now the people involved are facing criminal charges.

Impeachment hearings are not being held with the full house, because they know they have nothing.

We got this....

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Re: Trump slams 'Never Trumper Republicans' as 'human scum'
« Reply #129 on: October 25, 2019, 05:11:30 pm »
Except that.... when it comes to politics, the term "evil" is merely subjective, not literal.   And I have used the "lesser of two evils" also in the past, incorrectly .... when it comes to describing voting decisions.   

Fact is, when you are voting for the candidate that will stave off the destruction of the country, even if that candidate is not perfect (nobody is)..... you are making the most logical decision possible, even IF you have to hold your nose while doing it, due to dislike of that candidate.   When up against the hard-core leftists, you vote however you can to keep them from power.  It's just that simple.   If you choose to abstain from voting for the "least leftist" candidate, you are allowing someone 'else' to determine the future of this nation.   

So, you see... I have changed my stance on how I vote.   Yeah, I voted for McCain/Palin and Romney even though I couldn't stand McCain and didn't trust Romney.   But I knew exactly who and what Barack Hussein Obama was and what his election meant for this country and I have no regrets, considering I had NO CHOICE.

Exactly why I regret.  I voted for McCain and Romney too which is now followed by the buffoon Trump.  Enough.  They need to forward an electable candidate.  One we don't have to defend from themselves.
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Re: Trump slams 'Never Trumper Republicans' as 'human scum'
« Reply #130 on: October 25, 2019, 05:12:36 pm »
Lots of "human scum" represented in this thread.

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« Reply #131 on: October 25, 2019, 05:13:55 pm »
Lots of "human scum" represented in this thread.

Thank you.  What a compliment!
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« Reply #132 on: October 25, 2019, 05:13:59 pm »
@The Ghost Hey!

I'm just agreeing with our CIC.  No harm in that.

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« Reply #133 on: October 25, 2019, 05:15:19 pm »
You're not standing, you're sitting on the sidelines.


No I am not.

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We fight for conservatism by voting for the most conservative candidates who can win...

As I said upthread, that is a lie that has filled the Republican party with RINOs. Which is why it is fractured and useless. And which is why the moderates stand even yet at the levers of power... And which is why the best we can seem to muster is a McCain't or a Rummy, or a Tump... And call it conservative... Which it is not, in the least.

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And living in a Republic means we have an opposition who fights for its values...liberal values...and that a Republic cannot live without SOME compromise with our opponents.

Y'all have already compromised it all away. Not a single conservative victory - not a one - in all my years. Liberalism is not winning by its merit - It has no merit. It is winning because it has no opposition. All y'all are supposed to be that opposition. That is why I am no longer a Republican.

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You seem to believe, and will fight for, a sort of conservative tyranny in which we as conservatives rule in oligarchical fashion while refusing ANY compromise with those who disagree with our views. In other words, you are arguing not for a Republic but for a different kind of tyranny...albeit conservative tyranny.

Nonsense. All my life y'all have been giving the farm away, and are doing it still even now.

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« Reply #134 on: October 25, 2019, 05:15:50 pm »
I think this thread has run it's course...
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« Reply #135 on: October 25, 2019, 05:17:39 pm »
I hate to admit it but I'm guilty of this myself, so I suppose you'd condemn me as well.

Who among us has not?   Stub your toe or elbow, do anything stupid that results in extreme pain... it slips out.   Have a sudden fit of anger, it slips out.  It just happens.  Even among the religious and devout Christians.   Being contrite, afterwards, about having used it is (I believe) the difference between those who use God's name in vain accidentally and those who do it constantly, deliberately.
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« Reply #136 on: October 25, 2019, 05:18:34 pm »
Interesting that ethics is that last word in your statement.
Isn't that what this thread is about, the ethics of calling someone "Human Scum"?

Be careful, this is turning to an Antifa on the Right kind of argument.
In Antifa member's mind, albeit twisted, they think they are "taking the country back", also.
Antifa wants to shout down speech and physically attack Republican supporters. Republican Trump supporters, on the other hand, would "fight unto the death" to allow any speech and almost universally condemn violence against our opponents. Calling someone a "bad" name is in no way comparable to assaulting people and striving to shut down free speech...and its disingenuous to argue that they are moral equivalents.

These dire warnings of us losing the Republic, are just that,  nothing more. A literal coup is underway in the House of Representatives...this is no warning, its simple reporting of an event underway
Only the marginal loud few are being heard, because it is loud, and the craziness makes news. This is mostly true.
AOC isn't in the news daily because a majority believe her, it's because even the left who runs the media, knows that she's nuts. On the contrary, MANY on the Left...particularly in the media...are turning her into an icon of political virtue. Yes, its a sham and some know it but they will market it relentlessly none the less.

Russian probe has gone away, and now the people involved are facing criminal charges.We should all be hopeful but in wait and see mode on that.

Impeachment hearings are not being held with the full house, because they know they have nothing. And this is the crux. They have nothing, as you say. But they will impeach nonetheless.

We got this....

Don't fall into the trap of sounding as angry as the left does.I am angry, but functionally so. I will not quietly go into that goodnight of the Republic.

I applaud your call for calm and reason. At the same time, I think you greatly underestimate this coup de etat. It is real and it will end in impeachment.
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« Reply #137 on: October 25, 2019, 05:18:34 pm »
I think this thread has run it's course...

Calogon it!
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« Reply #138 on: October 25, 2019, 05:20:26 pm »
Yeah right at what costs?  You talk about abortion?  We are still funding it and Trump signed every bill.  He also just approved of killing innocent civilians in Syria.  Let out ISIS and is now dispatching more American troops to Syria to protect oil from ISIS which he helped escape.  Do you know how many civilians lost lives?  How many children were injured?  And allies destroyed?

And what life matters?  Trump described Syria as "sand and death".  Either he is ignorant or he doesn't value the human life in Syria.


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And yes, it is about as inhumane as it gets.

You're drifting.   My post addressed the idiotic and faux outrage over Trump calling the scumbags "human scum".   I posit that he was way too damned nice.
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« Reply #139 on: October 25, 2019, 05:24:41 pm »
Except that.... when it comes to politics, the term "evil" is merely subjective, not literal.   And I have used the "lesser of two evils" also in the past, incorrectly .... when it comes to describing voting decisions.   


Doesn't matter. the concept is the same. The meme is a meme for a reason.

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Fact is, when you are voting for the candidate that will stave off the destruction of the country, even if that candidate is not perfect (nobody is)..... you are making the most logical decision possible, even IF you have to hold your nose while doing it, due to dislike of that candidate.   

A nonsensical statement. Y'all are staving off nothing. The beast is getting fed even more than it did under Obummer.

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When up against the hard-core leftists, you vote however you can to keep them from power.  It's just that simple.   If you choose to abstain from voting for the "least leftist" candidate, you are allowing someone 'else' to determine the future of this nation.   

No, when I vote for big government on the right, I am giving my endorsement to that big-government right... Which is just as 'left' as the left.  I do not want a big-government right... I want opposition to big government. And when the right is just as left as the left, that is something I cannot endorse. WILL NOT endorse.

Better to spend my endorsement to raise up that opposition.

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So, you see... I have changed my stance on how I vote.   Yeah, I voted for McCain/Palin and Romney even though I couldn't stand McCain and didn't trust Romney.   But I knew exactly who and what Barack Hussein Obama was and what his election meant for this country and I have no regrets, considering I had NO CHOICE.

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« Reply #140 on: October 25, 2019, 05:41:34 pm »
I applaud your call for calm and reason. At the same time, I think you greatly underestimate this coup de etat. It is real and it will end in impeachment.

Fair enough.

I'm worried more about the lack of civics education being the undoing of the Republic, as time goes by,  more than I am the current situation.
I am seeing some states trying to pass laws guaranteeing free speech for conservative and religious groups on campuses, so that's a step in the right direction.
I think impeachment will blow up, and may even get Biden to face charges.
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« Reply #141 on: October 25, 2019, 06:36:03 pm »
"If you search for good, you will find favor; but if you search for evil, it will find you!"  Proverbs 11:27

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« Reply #142 on: October 25, 2019, 07:27:42 pm »
Doesn't matter. the concept is the same. The meme is a meme for a reason.

Ok, then.   Ever heard the saying that 'evil thrives when good men do nothing'?   Same goes here re: not voting for the only candidate that can, and has thus far, delayed the destruction of the USA at the hands of the leftists.

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A nonsensical statement. Y'all are staving off nothing. The beast is getting fed even more than it did under Obummer.

Damned sure are staving it off.   Our destruction has been "delayed" under Trump.   Look around.   Booming economy, illegal flow drastically decreased, if not stopped.   Under Hillary and her commie cohorts, we would already be in the midst of another DemocRat Misery Index stagnation, if not worse.

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No, when I vote for big government on the right, I am giving my endorsement to that big-government right... Which is just as 'left' as the left.  I do not want a big-government right... I want opposition to big government. And when the right is just as left as the left, that is something I cannot endorse. WILL NOT endorse.

Better to spend my endorsement to raise up that opposition.

You always have a choice.

So just sit at home and do nothing, if that's your choice.   But don't expect me to respect it.  My choice is to at least try to stop the rabid left from their takeover of America.
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« Reply #143 on: October 25, 2019, 07:34:34 pm »

So just sit at home and do nothing, if that's your choice.   But don't expect me to respect it.  My choice is to at least try to stop the rabid left from their takeover of America.

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« Reply #144 on: October 25, 2019, 07:52:59 pm »
Thanks for calling him on his bullshit.   Didn't know Montana mushrooms were THAT potent.    :laugh:

I really like roamer.... but much like the few remaining (around me, anyway) family members that are what I call "wrong-headed lefties"....  I would never accept advice from someone that thinks as he does on this issue.   I'm stubborn too. 
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« Reply #145 on: October 25, 2019, 07:55:05 pm »
Ok, then.   Ever heard the saying that 'evil thrives when good men do nothing'?   Same goes here re: not voting for the only candidate that can, and has thus far, delayed the destruction of the USA at the hands of the leftists.


You can't fight big government with big government. Your argument is that your guy does it better than their guy... Which is categorically false. The false premise being that big government is acceptable.

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Damned sure are staving it off.   Our destruction has been "delayed" under Trump.   Look around.   Booming economy, illegal flow drastically decreased, if not stopped.   Under Hillary and her commie cohorts, we would already be in the midst of another DemocRat Misery Index stagnation, if not worse.

Nonsense. We are spending more money now, or at the very least comparable, to Obummer. And that price is whole orders of magnitude higher than Bush, and again orders of magnitude more than before Bush. It is the hallmark of moderate and liberal Republicans to throw civil libertarians and fiscal conservatives under the bus. This is no different. And what you think you are saving now is going to cost our grandchildren and great grandchildren more than you can imagine. Collapse is inevitable. Certainly so if someone does not rein it in right now.

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So just sit at home and do nothing, if that's your choice.   But don't expect me to respect it.  My choice is to at least try to stop the rabid left from their takeover of America.

The rabid left has already taken over. Your mistake is in supposing Republicans to be different than Democrats. Left foot, right foot, shuffling off to Gomorrah.

And do not suppose that just because I will give y'all no support, that I am 'sitting home doing nothing'
That is a ridiculous charge, and you should know better. I give y'all no support because y'all are operating counter to conservatism, which only makes things worse.

This is folly. Until y'all demand conservatism, liberalism is winning.

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« Reply #146 on: October 25, 2019, 08:10:54 pm »
You can't fight big government with big government. Your argument is that your guy does it better than their guy... Which is categorically false. The false premise being that big government is acceptable.

You also can't rebuild a military, decimated by leftists like Obama, by NOT spending money.   Same with securing the southern border and with any other number of national security measures that were deliberately lapsed under the leftists' control.   If faced with a choice between having bigger government vs. having a vulnerable national security and compromised military, I'll choose big government every time.  After all.... without a nation to defend (due to devastating defeat or attacks from an enemy).... what good is the concept of "smaller government", let alone Conservatism.   

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Nonsense. We are spending more money now, or at the very least comparable, to Obummer. And that price is whole orders of magnitude higher than Bush, and again orders of magnitude more than before Bush. It is the hallmark of moderate and liberal Republicans to throw civil libertarians and fiscal conservatives under the bus. This is no different. And what you think you are saving now is going to cost our grandchildren and great grandchildren more than you can imagine. Collapse is inevitable. Certainly so if someone does not rein it in right now.

We are spending money on things Obama deliberately decimated to make America weaker.  And as far as the cost to our grandchildren.... I'm more worried about leaving them to the mercy of the radical, commie left.   As you should be.

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The rabid left has already taken over. Your mistake is in supposing Republicans to be different than Democrats. Left foot, right foot, shuffling off to Gomorrah.

No, not yet..... but they are desperately flailing and trying.   Why do you think they so viciously oppose Trump?   Because they know or fear that their time is growing short (pardon Lucifer ref...lol).

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And do not suppose that just because I will give y'all no support, that I am 'sitting home doing nothing'
That is a ridiculous charge, and you should know better. I give y'all no support because y'all are operating counter to conservatism, which only makes things worse.

I don't know what you could be doing "at home", but if you're planning on sitting out the election next year, that's a choice I disapprove of.   But yeah, it is "your choice".

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This is folly. Until y'all demand conservatism, liberalism is winning.

Wake up.  It is no longer "liberalism" that we have to worry about, dear.   It is much, much worse than that.   Think..."the United States of Venezuela".   It's gone waaaay past the warm fuzzy liberal stage.
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« Reply #147 on: October 25, 2019, 08:21:32 pm »
You also can't rebuild a military, decimated by leftists like Obama, by NOT spending money.   Same with securing the southern border and with any other number of national security measures that were deliberately lapsed under the leftists' control.   If faced with a choice between having bigger government vs. having a vulnerable national security and compromised military, I'll choose big government every time.  After all.... without a nation to defend (due to devastating defeat or attacks from an enemy).... what good is the concept of "smaller government", let alone Conservatism.   


And there's the problem.  You have a list of things you need.  Someone else has their list, etc, etc, etc.   And we all decide that our part is so important it's worth funding/regulating/taxing everything else.   Pretty soon, generations go buy who know no other way.

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« Reply #148 on: October 25, 2019, 08:28:31 pm »
Lots of thing run through my head when told I only have one choice when voting (not true)... That I am the one that lets the government get in bad shape because I didn't vote for XYZ (including Romney and McCain)...

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Paul wrote, "Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil" (Rom. 12:9)

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And Elijah came near to all the people and said, “How long will you hesitate between two opinions? If the LORD is God, follow Him; but if Baal, follow him.” But the people did not answer him a word. (1 Kgs. 18:21)

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"Discernment is not knowing the difference between right and wrong. It is knowing the difference between right and almost right." — Charles H. Spurgeon

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1 John 2:3-4 And by this we know that we have known him, if we keep his commandments. He who saith that he knoweth him and keepeth not his commandments is a liar: and the truth is not in him.

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Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light..... Isaiah 5:20

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"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge or gallantry would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution is designed only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate for any other." ~~ President John Adams

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When there is a lack of honor in government, the morals of the whole people are poisoned. There is no such thing as a no-man's land between honesty and dishonesty. Our strength lies in spiritual concepts. It lies in public sensitiveness to evil. Our greatest danger is not from invasion by foreign armies. Our dangers are that we may commit suicide from within by complaisance with evil, or by public tolerance of scandalous behavior. -- President Herbert Hoover

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"When we get piled upon one another in large cities, as in Europe, we shall become as corrupt as Europe" . Thomas Jefferson (NY Values !)

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“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.” — President Theodore Roosevelt

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"Freedom of speech means nothing to a people who are too weak in their convictions to speak out against the evil that is eating at the heart of the nation like a cancer." Billy Graham

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"The Lord also has put away your sin; you shall not die. However... by this deed you have given great occasion to the enemies of the Lord to blaspheme..." 2 Sam. 12:13

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Sir Thomas More - "The Devil...The proud spirit...cannot endure to be mocked."

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"What is even more remarkable is that , after seven years of repeated disasters, both domestically and internationally, under a glib egomaniac in the White House, so many potential voters are turning to another glib egomaniac to be his successor" - Thomas Sowell

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If a political party does not have its foundation in the determination to advance a cause that is right and that is moral, then it is not a political party; it is merely a conspiracy to seize power. --Dwight Eisenhower

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If we must have an enemy at the head of government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible. - Alexander Hamilton

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Re: Trump slams 'Never Trumper Republicans' as 'human scum'
« Reply #149 on: October 25, 2019, 08:35:22 pm »
And there's the problem.  You have a list of things you need.  Someone else has their list, etc, etc, etc.   And we all decide that our part is so important it's worth funding/regulating/taxing everything else.   Pretty soon, generations go buy who know no other way.

And so dies a republic.

It's a pretty clear choice to me.    Righties (like myself) prefer to prioritize and spend money on national defense, military, and the things that government was always "supposed" to be for.   Leftists, on the other hand, always choose to neglect (or decimate) those spending priorities in favor of more welfare spending and doling out "freebies" to their ever-dependent constituents.   Guess which side makes America "less safe" from destruction and/or from collapse.... always.
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