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Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« on: September 30, 2019, 04:21:33 pm »

Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
 

It’s unclear what his actual point was because Joe Biden is drooling-on-his-bib crazy, but the message he delivered was that even if you have an AR-15, the government will kill you and take your guns. Actually, that’s probably what he was trying to say as he was talking about banning semi-automatic weapons. Until now, Biden has been running on his “electability” without offering any policy specifics, but now he has at least one policy which is to strip Americans of their Constitutional rights and killing all dissenters. He should definitely go back to pretending people like him.

KDNW reports that Biden held a fundraiser in Las Vegas and was betting that the payouts would be bigger if he attacked the 2nd Amendment. In a call to ban semi-automatic weapons, he dropped this:

“If you need weapons to protect yourself from the government, you’d better go get an F-15. You’d better buy yourself a fighter jet or a bazooka rocket launcher,” said Biden.

https://defconnews.com/2019/09/28/joe-biden-says-an-ar-15-wont-protect-you-when-the-government-comes-to-take-your-guns/
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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2019, 04:31:42 pm »
Then we need better guns.
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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2019, 04:31:55 pm »
What happened to 'just fire the shotgun through the door'?
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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2019, 05:28:05 pm »
Quote from: Polly Ticks on September 30, 2019, 04:31:55 pm
What happened to 'just fire the shotgun through the door'?

He just traded the shotgun for a .30-06, which would actually be a better weapon for repelling recalcitrant government employees who are breaking their oaths to the Constitution.  Range is more important than speed.
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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2019, 05:46:22 pm »
So Creepy Joe admits that if he won he wants government agents to come after people's guns?

Between LEOs unwilling to violate the constitution and mini-tyrant-wannabes not being willing to face danger, I do not think hoplophobic Dems could pull that off. But they would probably cause quite a bit of chaos within and without government.
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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2019, 08:35:58 pm »
Quote from: rangerrebew on September 30, 2019, 04:21:33 pm
Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
 

It’s unclear what his actual point was because Joe Biden is drooling-on-his-bib crazy, but the message he delivered was that even if you have an AR-15, the government will kill you and take your guns. Actually, that’s probably what he was trying to say as he was talking about banning semi-automatic weapons. Until now, Biden has been running on his “electability” without offering any policy specifics, but now he has at least one policy which is to strip Americans of their Constitutional rights and killing all dissenters. He should definitely go back to pretending people like him.

KDNW reports that Biden held a fundraiser in Las Vegas and was betting that the payouts would be bigger if he attacked the 2nd Amendment. In a call to ban semi-automatic weapons, he dropped this:

“If you need weapons to protect yourself from the government, you’d better go get an F-15. You’d better buy yourself a fighter jet or a bazooka rocket launcher,” said Biden.

https://defconnews.com/2019/09/28/joe-biden-says-an-ar-15-wont-protect-you-when-the-government-comes-to-take-your-guns/
Ever hear of the Posse Comitatus Act, Joe?
If you can't use the army as police against invading foreigners (on us soil) you better not be using it against us.

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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2019, 08:47:36 pm »
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“If you need weapons to protect yourself from the government, you’d better go get an F-15. You’d better buy yourself a fighter jet or a bazooka rocket launcher,” said Biden.

So the Federal government is going to order its military to bomb and blow up American citizens who refuse to surrender their lawfully-purchased firearms?  Really, Joe?
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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2019, 08:51:10 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 30, 2019, 08:35:58 pm
Ever hear of the Posse Comitatus Act, Joe?
If you can't use the army as police against invading foreigners (on us soil) you better not be using it against us.

Somebody not moved by the Bill of Rights (specifically the 2nd) is not going to be phased by a mere Statute.
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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2019, 08:52:21 pm »
Quote from: andy58-in-nh on September 30, 2019, 08:47:36 pm
So the Federal government is going to order its military to bomb and blow up American citizens who refuse to surrender their lawfully-purchased firearms?  Really, Joe?

Sloe Joe is a piker compared to that Swalwell clown who said he'd nuke us.
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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2019, 09:02:11 pm »
It's obvious that Dopey Gropey Joe has never seen the movie Red Dawn.   He has no idea how many newbie Wolverines there would be in America, should the radical left come knocking and kicking for our guns.

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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2019, 09:11:25 pm »
Quote from: Polly Ticks on September 30, 2019, 04:31:55 pm
What happened to 'just fire the shotgun through the door'?

Great point. If the feds come for my AR I'll just step out on to the porch and fire a few shotgun blasts into the air.
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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2019, 09:51:53 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on September 30, 2019, 09:02:11 pm
It's obvious that Dopey Gropey Joe has never seen the movie Red Dawn.   He has no idea how many newbie Wolverines there would be in America, should the radical left come knocking and kicking for our guns.

If he did see it he would know to go clean out the Sporting Goods stores to get a list of where the guns are.  J/S.
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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2019, 10:10:44 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on September 30, 2019, 09:51:53 pm
If he did see it he would know to go clean out the Sporting Goods stores to get a list of where the guns are.  J/S.

Not the point.   In the movie, the commie left loses..... patriots win.   The last thing any sensible leftie would ...or should want is a civil war fought along those lines....

guerilla warfare lines.   And that's exactly how it would be.
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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2019, 10:15:07 pm »
I think Old Joe's point is since AR-15s are not useful to protect against the govt, then they should be outlawed as they are not useful for hunting.

Like a lot of things he does not know, he does not know how to articulate.
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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2019, 10:27:13 pm »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on September 30, 2019, 10:15:07 pm
I think Old Joe's point is since AR-15s are not useful to protect against the govt, then they should be outlawed as they are not useful for hunting.

Like a lot of things he does not know, he does not know how to articulate.
Like everything with the Left, their logic is always upside down and backwards.
We need to take your 'weapons' (the AR15 thing is just the beginning) because they will not protect you. See?
We do not need a border wall because it will not work. See?

If AR15s don't work, then why does the government want them so badly?
If the wall will definitely not work, then why does the government oppose it so fiercely?
If they don't work, then what harm is it?
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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #15 on: September 30, 2019, 11:09:31 pm »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 30, 2019, 08:35:58 pm
Ever hear of the Posse Comitatus Act, Joe?
If you can't use the army as police against invading foreigners (on us soil) you better not be using it against us.

Whoever doesn't turn in their AR15s will be declared members of the rebellion.

Article 1, Section 9 states, "The privilege of the Writ of Habeas Corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in Cases of Rebellion or Invasion the public Safety may require it.

The suspension of habeas corpus allows an agency to hold a person without a charge. Suspension of habeas corpus is often equated with martial law.

Because of this connection of the two concepts, it is often argued that only Congress can declare martial law, because Congress alone is granted the power to suspend the writ. The President, however, is commander-in-chief of the military, and it has been argued that the President can take it upon himself to declare martial law.
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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #16 on: September 30, 2019, 11:09:46 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on September 30, 2019, 05:28:05 pm
Range is more important than speed.

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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #17 on: September 30, 2019, 11:11:57 pm »
Quote from: 240B on September 30, 2019, 10:27:13 pm
Like everything with the Left, their logic is always upside down and backwards.
We need to take your 'weapons' (the AR15 thing is just the beginning) because they will not protect you. See?
We do not need a border wall because it will not work. See?

If AR15s don't work, then why does the government want them so badly?
If the wall will definitely not work, then why does the government oppose it so fiercely?
If they don't work, then what harm is it?

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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #18 on: September 30, 2019, 11:13:13 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on September 30, 2019, 05:28:05 pm
Range is more important than speed.

Easy for you to say from your mountaintop citadel.
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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #19 on: September 30, 2019, 11:15:25 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on September 30, 2019, 05:28:05 pm
He just traded the shotgun for a .30-06, which would actually be a better weapon for repelling recalcitrant government employees who are breaking their oaths to the Constitution.  Range is more important than speed.

What is also very important is picking the time and location. Take the initiative.
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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #20 on: September 30, 2019, 11:16:49 pm »
Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on September 30, 2019, 10:15:07 pm
I think Old Joe's point is since AR-15s are not useful to protect against the govt, then they should be outlawed as they are not useful for hunting.

Like a lot of things he does not know, he does not know how to articulate.

But they ARE useful for hunting... At least in the .308...
And a .243 semi-auto would be just about the best critter-gitter for coyotes. Were I still baggin coyotes, I would own one.

Just because it's all dressed up with man-candy doesn't make it any different.
 
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« Reply #21 on: September 30, 2019, 11:22:19 pm »
30-06 may not be a good choice. This is my go-to place for surplus 30-06 ammo: https://www.m1garand.com/m1-garand/ammunition/

I don't know how much longer surplus 30-06 ammo will be available. I would suggest 7.62x51 instead.
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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2019, 11:30:16 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on September 30, 2019, 11:13:13 pm
Easy for you to say from your mountaintop citadel.

Ouch!  But true.  The first rule of SHTF is bug out of the city to a defensible position.  My assumption was that part was already accomplished...it took me about 40 years to make that move. tri22
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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2019, 11:35:26 pm »
Quote from: Elderberry on September 30, 2019, 11:22:19 pm
30-06 may not be a good choice. This is my go-to place for surplus 30-06 ammo: https://www.m1garand.com/m1-garand/ammunition/

I don't know how much longer surplus 30-06 ammo will be available. I would suggest 7.62x51 instead.

Anything that's accurate at long range.
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Re: Joe Biden Says An AR-15 Won’t Protect You When The Government Comes To take Your Guns
« Reply #24 on: September 30, 2019, 11:37:05 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on September 30, 2019, 11:30:16 pm
Ouch!  But true.  The first rule of SHTF is bug out of the city to a defensible position.  My assumption was that part was already accomplished...it took me about 40 years to make that move. tri22

Now all you need are some sweet optics.
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