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Chicago mayor clashes with Cruz over gun violence: ‘Keep our name out of your mouth’

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot clashed with Sen. Ted Cruz over the latest burst of gun violence in the city, claiming Monday that Chicago’s decades-long crime problem is actually the fault of Republican-run states like Indiana – because they don’t have “commonsense gun legislation” in place.

The retort came after Cruz, R-Texas, tweeted that “gun control doesn’t work” and pointed to the Democrat-run city as evidence that “disarming law-abiding citizens isn’t the answer.” His tweet referenced an article reporting that at least 25 people were shot in Chicago during Labor Day weekend amid a continuing crime wave in the city............

..............Presidential hopeful Beto O’Rourke on Saturday gave a blunt answer when asked how he would address some gun owners' concerns that the government could be planning to take away their firearms.

“I want to be really clear that that’s exactly what we are going to do,” said the former Texas congressman. “Americans who own AR-15s, AK-47s, will have to sell them to the government.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/chicago-mayor-clashes-with-cruz
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Chicago mayor clashes with Cruz over gun violence: ‘Keep our name out of your mouth’

By Adam Shaw | Fox News

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot clashed with Sen. Ted Cruz over the latest burst of gun violence in the city, claiming Monday that Chicago’s decades-long crime problem is actually the fault of Republican-run states like Indiana – because they don’t have “commonsense gun legislation” in place.

The retort came after Cruz, R-Texas, tweeted that “gun control doesn’t work” and pointed to the Democrat-run city as evidence that “disarming law-abiding citizens isn’t the answer.” His tweet referenced an article reporting that at least 25 people were shot in Chicago during Labor Day weekend amid a continuing crime wave in the city.

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Gun control doesn’t work. Look at Chicago. Disarming law-abiding citizens isn’t the answer. Stopping violent criminals—prosecuting & getting them off the street—BEFORE they commit more violent crimes is the most effective way to reduce murder rates. Let’s protect our citizens.

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At least 25 people were shot, seven fatally, during the first half of Labor Day Weekend in Democrat-controlled Chicago. https://trib.al/xcy08IX

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So I guess this is going to be the new Progressive narrative.  Blame the neighboring states for not having the same unconstitutional gun laws as we do.

California started it by blaming gun laws in Nevada for their recent shooting...now Lori Lightfoot is blaming Chi-raq's murder rates on Indiana.
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The left has made it clear that the Bill of Rights is immaterial in their tyrannical worldview.

Well...the whole goal of Progressives is to "progress" past the Constitution.
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From the article:

Curious as to where this mayor obtained her statistics.  Where I live, if I want an illegal firearm, all I have to do is see a guy who lives up the street.

I suspect her data is bogus.

"Recovered firearms"...I believe that means stolen firearms.  So she makes our point for us.  These aren't legally obtained guns being used on the mean streets of Chicago.  They are stolen firearms from home invasions...pawn shop and gun store robberies etc.

IMHO she was probably able to get the stats because the weapons are part of a police report from the original crime that's in a database of stolen weapons.
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"Recovered firearms"...I believe that means stolen firearms.  So she makes our point for us.  These aren't legally obtained guns being used on the mean streets of Chicago.  They are stolen firearms from home invasions...pawn shop and gun store robberies etc.

IMHO she was probably able to get the stats because the weapons are part of a police report from the original crime that's in a database of stolen weapons.

And even if all states had Democratic gun control the criminals would still get them.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Al+Capone+mass+shootings&ru=%2fsearch%3fq%3dAl%2bCapone%2bmass%2bshootings%26form%3dEDNTHT%26mkt%3den-us%26httpsmsn%3d1%26plvar%3d0%26refig%3dfc922d722dfd4d02ab10da0593e445fd%26PC%3dLCTS%26sp%3d-1%26ghc%3d1%26pq%3dal%2bcapone%2bmass%2bshootings%26sc%3d1-24%26qs%3dn%26sk%3d%26cvid%3dfc922d722dfd4d02ab10da0593e445fd&view=detail&mid=FCB94CCC16D2EA6D4452FCB94CCC16D2EA6D4452&&mmscn=vwrc&FORM=VDRVRV


Bootlegging then.  Drug Cartel today.

Mexican Drug Cartels Fueling Chicago Violence

https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2018/08/15/cartels-drugs-chicago/

How Mexican Cartels Prey on Chicago's Chaos
As Mexico’s cartels manage to get more and more heroin into the U.S. each year, Chicago’s gangs are scrambling to be the ones to distribute it.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-mexican-cartels-prey-on-chicagos-chaos

I don't think gun laws stop these criminals from getting guns.
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Ghetto politics at work here folks.  Nothing more than capitulation to the lawless by your Rat run cities in America today.  Let them kill each other so we don't have riots by doing what is needed to stop the killing.
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Re: Chicago's bloody Labor Day weekend sees at least 35 shot, 7 of them killed
« Reply #10 on: September 03, 2019, 06:49:09 pm »
"What are we doing to combat this problem?"

That was the very first question asked. That's the same thing that we're asking about the mass shootings.

The good news is that, as was highlighted in the video, the situation in Chicago is actually getting better. Hopefully we get a grip on this "mass shooting" situation and lower those occurrences as well.

It all needs our attention.
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And that's what Liberals refuse to acknowledge or even comprehend about all of the schemes they're coming up with to take guns away from you and me.

Exactly. 
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Re: Chicago's bloody Labor Day weekend sees at least 35 shot, 7 of them killed
« Reply #15 on: September 03, 2019, 08:02:19 pm »
"What are we doing to combat this problem?"

That was the very first question asked. That's the same thing that we're asking about the mass shootings.

The good news is that, as was highlighted in the video, the situation in Chicago is actually getting better. Hopefully we get a grip on this "mass shooting" situation and lower those occurrences as well.

It all needs our attention.

I don't think it's getting better in Chicago.  On any holiday weekend in particular, the number of shootings is in the double digits. 

Chicago is but one example, mainly because of the high number of shootings.  Most major cities have the same problem.  Closest big city to me is Pittsburgh.  Every day there is a shooting or two.  Sometimes more. 

Most of these killings occur in bad neighborhoods where gangs rule.  Used to be gangs just shot at each other.  Now they shoot innocent bystanders, sometimes small children.

But notice that when any politician or celebrity talks about remedying gun violence, they are only focused on the mass shootings like the one recently in El Paso.  And they focus on the perp who likely acquired his firearms legally. 

So the remedies these people come up with target the law abiding citizen who acquired his or her firearm legally -- the one who uses his weapons for sport or to protect himself/herself and loved ones. -- the ones who would never go out and shoot up a Walmart.

But the gangbangers who shoot at each other in the ghettos are largely ignored.  These guys get their weapons on the street.  They don't go to a licensed dealer.  They don't submit to background checks.  As long as they have the right amount of money, they can buy whatever firearm they want.

Bottom line is that gun laws -- background checks, so-called "red flag laws" and such -- are not going to prevent gun  violence.  Even if this country decided to confiscate every privately owned firearm, someone will find a way to get a gun somewhere.  Or if they can't get a gun, they will use something else -- knives, bombs, trucks loaded with explosives, whatever.  Meanwhile, the citizen who wants to protect his family and property is out of luck. 

Our Founding Fathers instituted the Second Amendment for a reason -- to protect against tyranny and lawlessness.  Taking away a legally acquired firearm or preventing a law abiding citizen from obtaining a firearm is tyranny.  No one should allow any government to violate the Second Amendment.

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I thought they kinda dove tailed each other.  happy77

I agree.  Actually, I was going to add the Ted Cruz/Lightfoot article to the one I posted, but I saw it was already posted. 

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Re: Chicago's bloody Labor Day weekend sees at least 35 shot, 7 of them killed
« Reply #17 on: September 03, 2019, 08:25:42 pm »
I don't think it's getting better in Chicago.  On any holiday weekend in particular, the number of shootings is in the double digits. 

Chicago is but one example, mainly because of the high number of shootings.  Most major cities have the same problem.  Closest big city to me is Pittsburgh.  Every day there is a shooting or two.  Sometimes more. 

Most of these killings occur in bad neighborhoods where gangs rule.  Used to be gangs just shot at each other.  Now they shoot innocent bystanders, sometimes small children.

But notice that when any politician or celebrity talks about remedying gun violence, they are only focused on the mass shootings like the one recently in El Paso.  And they focus on the perp who likely acquired his firearms legally. 

So the remedies these people come up with target the law abiding citizen who acquired his or her firearm legally -- the one who uses his weapons for sport or to protect himself/herself and loved ones. -- the ones who would never go out and shoot up a Walmart.

But the gangbangers who shoot at each other in the ghettos are largely ignored.  These guys get their weapons on the street.  They don't go to a licensed dealer.  They don't submit to background checks.  As long as they have the right amount of money, they can buy whatever firearm they want.

Bottom line is that gun laws -- background checks, so-called "red flag laws" and such -- are not going to prevent gun  violence.  Even if this country decided to confiscate every privately owned firearm, someone will find a way to get a gun somewhere.  Or if they can't get a gun, they will use something else -- knives, bombs, trucks loaded with explosives, whatever.  Meanwhile, the citizen who wants to protect his family and property is out of luck. 

Our Founding Fathers instituted the Second Amendment for a reason -- to protect against tyranny and lawlessness.  Taking away a legally acquired firearm or preventing a law abiding citizen from obtaining a firearm is tyranny.  No one should allow any government to violate the Second Amendment.

the video in the article you provided showed that things are improving.
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Re: Chicago's bloody Labor Day weekend sees at least 35 shot, 7 of them killed
« Reply #18 on: September 03, 2019, 08:33:34 pm »
the video in the article you provided showed that things are improving.

So, reasonable gun safety regulations work!  How do you feel about compelling liability insurance for gun owners?
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Re: Chicago's bloody Labor Day weekend sees at least 35 shot, 7 of them killed
« Reply #19 on: September 03, 2019, 08:38:05 pm »
So, reasonable gun safety regulations work!  How do you feel about compelling liability insurance for gun owners?

The majority of gun owners are responsible as it is. I'd need more information on how the liability insurance is expected to work cause it doesn't make any logical sense to me at the moment.
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Re: Chicago's bloody Labor Day weekend sees at least 35 shot, 7 of them killed
« Reply #20 on: September 03, 2019, 08:40:51 pm »
The majority of gun owners are responsible as it is. I'd need more information on how the liability insurance is expected to work cause it doesn't make any logical sense to me at the moment.

Me neither.  And that was me being a bit sarcastic up there...
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Re: Chicago's bloody Labor Day weekend sees at least 35 shot, 7 of them killed
« Reply #21 on: September 03, 2019, 08:47:12 pm »
"What are we doing to combat this problem?"

That was the very first question asked. That's the same thing that we're asking about the mass shootings.

The good news is that, as was highlighted in the video, the situation in Chicago is actually getting better. Hopefully we get a grip on this "mass shooting" situation and lower those occurrences as well.

It all needs our attention.

40 people shot and 8 killed in a weekend in "getting better"?  Seriously?

Chicago has as many shot and killed in a weekend as were shot and killed in El Paso...Odessa and Dayton.  But it happens every weekend there.

How is that "getting better"?

How is a place like Baltimore...again a city with strict gun control and anti cop to boot...is approaching it's fourth or 5th year of 300+ homicides.

Is that "getting better" as well?
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Re: Chicago's bloody Labor Day weekend sees at least 35 shot, 7 of them killed
« Reply #22 on: September 03, 2019, 09:06:23 pm »
40 people shot and 8 killed in a weekend in "getting better"?  Seriously?

Chicago has as many shot and killed in a weekend as were shot and killed in El Paso...Odessa and Dayton.  But it happens every weekend there.

How is that "getting better"?

How is a place like Baltimore...again a city with strict gun control and anti cop to boot...is approaching it's fourth or 5th year of 300+ homicides.

Is that "getting better" as well?

Well, as reported, those numbers for Chicago were trending way down...that's getting better.
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« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2019, 09:12:05 pm »
Well, as reported, those numbers for Chicago were trending way down...that's getting better.


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