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Not Yours to Give
« on: August 20, 2019, 06:27:46 pm »
Not Yours to Give

Monday, December 22, 2008

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“Mr. Speaker–I have as much respect for the memory of the deceased, and as much sympathy for the sufferings of the living, if suffering there be, as any man in this House, but we must not permit our respect for the dead or our sympathy for a part of the living to lead us into an act of injustice to the balance of the living. I will not go into an argument to prove that Congress has no power to appropriate this money as an act of charity. Every member upon this floor knows it. We have the right, as individuals, to give away as much of our own money as we please in charity; but as members of Congress we have no right so to appropriate a dollar of the public money. Some eloquent appeals have been made to us upon the ground that it is a debt due the deceased. Mr. Speaker, the deceased lived long after the close of the war; he was in office to the day of his death, and I have never heard that the government was in arrears to him.

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"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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Re: Not Yours to Give
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2019, 06:32:28 pm »
Ahh, the story of Crockett and Horatio Bunce!!

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Re: Not Yours to Give
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2019, 06:45:43 pm »
Yep!
heard this on the Micheal Berry show not too long ago.

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Re: Not Yours to Give
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2019, 06:51:21 pm »
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“Now, sir,” concluded Crockett, “you know why I made that speech yesterday.

“There is one thing now to which I will call your attention. You remember that I proposed to give a week’s pay. There are in that House many very wealthy men–men who think nothing of spending a week’s pay, or a dozen of them, for a dinner or a wine party when they have something to accomplish by it. Some of those same men made beautiful speeches upon the great debt of gratitude which the country owed the deceased–a debt which could not be paid by money–and the insignificance and worthlessness of money, particularly so insignificant a sum as $10,000, when weighted against the honor of the nation. Yet not one of them responded to my proposition. Money with them is nothing but trash when it is to come out of the people. But it is the one great thing for which most of them are striving, and many of them sacrifice honor, integrity, and justice to obtain it.”

Holders of political office are but reflections of the dominant leadership–good or bad–among the electorate.

Horatio Bunce is a striking example of responsible citizenship. Were his kind to multiply, we would see many new faces in public office; or, as in the case of Davy Crockett, a new Crockett.

For either the new faces or the new Crocketts, we must look to the Horatio in ourselves!
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Re: Not Yours to Give
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2019, 08:00:59 pm »


Crockett was right then and what he said is still right this very day!
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien

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Re: Not Yours to Give
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2019, 08:03:45 pm »
Crockett was right then and what he said is still right this very day!

And he was the first to admit he was set straight by a "simple farmer."  Reminds me of a "simple bricklayer" who used to post ere.  I miss @fintan.
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« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2019, 08:05:26 pm »
And he was the first to admit he was set straight by a "simple farmer."  Reminds me of a "simple bricklayer" who used to post ere.  I miss @fintan.

 :yowsa: He may well have been a bricklayer but he was anything but simple.
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
- J. R. R. Tolkien