Byron York: Anti-Trump fever takes threatening turn

[sneakypete]

I'd have you actually prove that @sneakypete
Go ahead and try to defend him on the principles of Conservatism.

@roamer_1

Why waste my time trying to convince someone that believes you have to believe in Fairy Tales and communism to be a conservative?
 

Christians are anything but fascist.

Do you actually know any? If you do,you are insane.

They make up the largest voting bloc in the United States,

That must be why they are in charge,huh?

and are the only bloc big enough to get their way.

How's that abortion ban stuff working out for you?

Sunday Blue Laws,etc,etc,etc?

But their way is most evidently not what is happening.

Gee,and here you/they are in the majority!

[sneakypete]

Yes, Pete, I'm suggesting exactly that.   

@Sanguine

Ok,that means you know nothing about anything,but insist your wishes be true.

[roamer_1]

You misspelled Boy Jorge's,Papa's Jorges,Baby Brudder Neils,and Jeb's  last name.

Tumpy ain't no different.

TWICE.

Again, Tumpy ain't no different.

No,it is an ACCURATE description. You just don't like it because it is descriptive.
 

Of course it isn't accurate. Painting over 60% of the population with the same brush is absurd on it;s face.

ROFLMAO! Jesus Christ was the ORIGINAL Communist. That's the big reason why all the communist countries ban Christianity. They can't compete with a kindler,gentler version of Communism.

LOL! Your ignorance is showing.
Yeshua kept Torah (the Law)
And Torah is capitalist and representative.

You don't know what you are talking about.

[sneakypete]

 

@sneakypete
A total cop out. Like always, nobody actually ever defends him on actual Conservatism.

@roamer_1

You have no idea what an actual POLITICAL conservative is,and are using "church conservative" as your standard. How the hell can ANYBODY defend him based on that false premise?

In AMERICA,being a conservative is generally taken to mean someone that wants a less powerful government. What YOU and other Christians want is a MORE POWERFUL government that will pass laws to control personal morality.

In other words,you have more in common with the Soviets and the Nazi's than you do traditional American conservatives.

[aligncare]

With all due respect I believe nobody tries anymore because you don't seem particularly reasonable when the subject of Trump's record is the issue. Its orange man bad.

Exactly. I won’t engage with a self righteous prig. Sorry for the redundancy.

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete

I give up.  When?

@Hoodat

Never,AFAIK.

[sneakypete]

With all due respect I believe nobody tries anymore because you don't seem particularly reasonable when the subject of Trump's record is the issue. Its orange man bad.

@skeeter

AND......,orange man is bad because he chases whores and is unfaithful to his wife.

[sneakypete]

Trump has reduced regulations on businesses. He has adapted a more 'America First' foreign policy than we've had in years. He has used the recommendations of more or less conservative think tanks to fill judicial vacancies. He has reduced corporate taxes. And most importantly, to me, is he has begun resisting the military interventionist impulse of the globalist faction of the GOP. Most consider policies like these conservative.

@skeeter

ALL of those are important things,but in MY book the biggies are the judicial appointments and reducing military intervention.

[aligncare]

@skeeter

AND......,orange man is bad because he chases whores and is unfaithful to his wife.

So does my mechanic. But, I still bring my car to him because he’s the best mechanic around.

I just leave my wife at home.

[Sanguine]

@Sanguine

Ok,that means you know nothing about anything,but insist your wishes be true.

Pete, you're just hurling insults because you have nothing else. 

[Hoodat]

So does my mechanic. But, I still bring my car to him because he’s the best mechanic around.

I just leave my wife at home.

Spot on brilliant.  However, you have your choice of mechanics.

[roamer_1]

@roamer_1

You have no idea what an actual POLITICAL conservative is,and are using "church conservative" as your standard. How the hell can ANYBODY defend him based on that false premise?

@sneakypete
I have no idea what 'church conservative' is.

I am a dyed in the wool, rock-ribbed Reaganite, embracing and supporting ALL of the conservative factions. By definition that makes me a federalist and a civil libertarian... And yes, I know exactly what a political conservative is.

In AMERICA,being a conservative is generally taken to mean someone that wants a less powerful government. What YOU and other Christians want is a MORE POWERFUL government that will pass laws to control personal morality.

No, in America, being a conservative is foremost to embrace federalism - that the power rests in the states, not the fed, except those powers granted to the fed.

It was the fed that, through the federal court, removed the federalist right to self determination in regard to Sunday laws and adultery/sodomy laws... Imposing a different morality nation-wide from a federal bench

Don't consider it conservative to use that federal imposition against your neighbors. Because that is not conservative.
 

In other words,you have more in common with the Soviets and the Nazi's than you do traditional American conservatives.

Quite the other way around. Christian conservatives are not looking to impose anything nationally. What they do seek to change is to change it back to what America used to be - Namely removing that which has been imposed nationally.

And rightly so. What business is it of yours what a county in Georgia votes for as law?
A Conservative would say that's none of your damn business. IOW, it is YOU lauding big government federal bullcrap to take away your neighbor's right.

And btw - Sunday laws would be against me. Sunday is not the Sabbath.

[skeeter]

Riiiight.

Just keep pluggin your ears sayin lalalalalalalaICan'tHearYou!
 

Said the guy with the beam in his eye.

[roamer_1]

Said the guy with the beam in his eye.

Show it to me. But then you'd have to actually reply to what I wrote instead of what you did.

[skeeter]

Show it to me. But then you'd have to actually reply to what I wrote instead of what you did.

The policies I mentioned are real. You didn't deny them, you discounted them. As I thought you would.

Now you ask me to tell you again. No thanks. What we have is a difference of opinion and discussing further is getting nowhere.

[Axeslinger]

@sneakypete
I have no idea what 'church conservative' is.

I am a dyed in the wool, rock-ribbed Reaganite, embracing and supporting ALL of the conservative factions. By definition that makes me a federalist and a civil libertarian... And yes, I know exactly what a political conservative is.

No, in America, being a conservative is foremost to embrace federalism - that the power rests in the states, not the fed, except those powers granted to the fed.

It was the fed that, through the federal court, removed the federalist right to self determination in regard to Sunday laws and adultery/sodomy laws... Imposing a different morality nation-wide from a federal bench

Don't consider it conservative to use that federal imposition against your neighbors. Because that is not conservative.
 
Quite the other way around. Christian conservatives are not looking to impose anything nationally. What they do seek to change is to change it back to what America used to be - Namely removing that which has been imposed nationally.

And rightly so. What business is it of yours what a county in Georgia votes for as law?
A Conservative would say that's none of your damn business. IOW, it is YOU lauding big government federal bullcrap to take away your neighbor's right.

And btw - Sunday laws would be against me. Sunday is not the Sabbath.

 

[roamer_1]

The policies I mentioned are real. You didn't deny them, you discounted them. As I thought you would.

Sure they're real - As real as anything coming out of Tumpy's mouth.
And discounting them is valid - even though you seem not to want to admit it.

Now you ask me to tell you again. No thanks. What we have is a difference of opinion and discussing further is getting nowhere.

Two people of differing opinion can disagree amicably.
Too bad that can't seem to happen where Tump is concerned.

[skeeter]

Sure they're real - As real as anything coming out of Tumpy's mouth.
And discounting them is valid - even though you seem not to want to admit it.

Two people of differing opinion can disagree amicably.
Too bad that can't seem to happen where Tump is concerned.

As I said, the reason more don't engage you on this issue is you seem to enjoy arguing too much.

[roamer_1]

As I said, the reason more don't engage you on this issue is you seem to enjoy arguing too much.

What argument?
You stated your case, I stated mine, and you returned with 'Yep. Orange man bad.'
And somehow I am the close-minded one 

Have a nice day.

[skeeter]

What argument?
You stated your case, I stated mine, and you returned with 'Yep. Orange man bad.'
And somehow I am the close-minded one 

Have a nice day.

I am. And I plan on having another tomorrow.

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete
 

Quite the other way around. Christian conservatives are not looking to impose anything nationally.

@roamer_1

ROFLMAO! Good one!

And btw - Sunday laws would be against me. Sunday is not the Sabbath.

So,you would be wanting to make Saturday the mandatory Holy Day? And the difference is?????

[Cyber Liberty]

Hey, all y'all....

LIGHTEN UP!  We're all on the same side in the war against socialism!

Doesn't matter if you're Christian, Atheist or Messianic, OK?  I'm sure there are Pastafarians with us.  We're a team of different folks.  We have a country to save.

[Cyber Liberty]

You are all personal friends of mine. 

[skeeter]

You are all personal friends of mine.

Easy for you to say, from your mountaintop fully stocked citadel.

[roamer_1]

So,you would be wanting to make Saturday the mandatory Holy Day?

@sneakypete
And what if I did? What if I got a bunch of like-minded folks together and created a town.
And that town banned businesses from being open on Sabbath, banned certain foods from being sold within city limits, and formed a school to teach our kids, and did all that to live the way we see fit.

What business is that of yours?