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Offline ABX

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You may soon have to give your DNA to the state and pay $250 for the privilege
« on: February 20, 2019, 04:34:27 pm »
Pushed by Republicans to boot...

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Arizona could soon be one of the first states to maintain a massive statewide DNA database. 
And if the proposed legislation passes, many people â€” from parent school volunteers and teachers to real estate agents and foster parents â€” will have no choice but to give up their DNA. 

Under Senate Bill 1475, which Sen. David Livingston, R-Peoria, introduced, DNA must be collected from anyone who has to be fingerprinted by the state for a job, to volunteer in certain positions or for a myriad of other reasons.....

https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/arizona/2019/02/19/arizona-bill-would-create-massive-statewide-dna-database/2873930002/?fbclid=IwAR3VWyC1YVTdu1MlB2_A_a5WNs5ktqx8hzJxnTP3LVfxqJIMrjVkHVGHkb8


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Re: You may soon have to give your DNA to the state and pay $250 for the privilege
« Reply #1 on: February 20, 2019, 04:39:53 pm »
Quote from: ABX on February 20, 2019, 04:34:27 pm
Pushed by Republicans to boot...

Intrusive garbage.  If everyone would rebel and tell them to stick it up their ass, they wouldn't have any recourse.
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Re: You may soon have to give your DNA to the state and pay $250 for the privilege
« Reply #2 on: February 20, 2019, 04:45:41 pm »
If the headline is true, guess I'm an outlaw now :P
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Re: You may soon have to give your DNA to the state and pay $250 for the privilege
« Reply #3 on: February 20, 2019, 04:49:48 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on February 20, 2019, 04:39:53 pm
Intrusive garbage.  If everyone would rebel and tell them to stick it up their ass, they wouldn't have any recourse.

Just wait.. it gets worse.. I'm about to post another article...
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Re: You may soon have to give your DNA to the state and pay $250 for the privilege
« Reply #4 on: February 20, 2019, 05:22:48 pm »
You have only been required to be finger printed to drive, to be a real estate agent, for what...decades?

The DNA technology that identified the Sacramento mass murderer, identified a killer in Alaska yesterday.

1. The dna database used (Gedmatch) is 100% voluntary--the murderer's cousin opted in.

So next I expect contemporary "true conservatives" to bitch about fingerprints.


No wonder
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Re: You may soon have to give your DNA to the state and pay $250 for the privilege
« Reply #5 on: February 20, 2019, 05:24:12 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on February 20, 2019, 05:22:48 pm
You have only been required to be finger printed to drive, to be a real estate agent, for what...decades?

The DNA technology that identified the Sacramento mass murderer, identified a killer in Alaska yesterday.

1. The dna database used (Gedmatch) is 100% voluntary--the murderer's cousin opted in.

So next I expect contemporary "true conservatives" to bitch about fingerprints.


No wonder

Why am I not surprised you would support this?
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Re: You may soon have to give your DNA to the state and pay $250 for the privilege
« Reply #6 on: February 20, 2019, 05:30:38 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on February 20, 2019, 05:22:48 pm

So next I expect contemporary "true conservatives" to bitch about fingerprints.


No wonder

Opt in then Buddy.  i hope some unscrupulous bureaucrat sells your dna data, and you suffer the consequences. 
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Re: You may soon have to give your DNA to the state and pay $250 for the privilege
« Reply #7 on: February 20, 2019, 05:36:09 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on February 20, 2019, 05:22:48 pm
You have only been required to be finger printed to drive, to be a real estate agent, for what...decades?

The DNA technology that identified the Sacramento mass murderer, identified a killer in Alaska yesterday.

1. The dna database used (Gedmatch) is 100% voluntary--the murderer's cousin opted in.

So next I expect contemporary "true conservatives" to bitch about fingerprints.


No wonder

And I expect the idiot left to, as usual, roll over and 'play dead' when it comes to the shredding of every vestige of the rights given to us by God and enforced by the US Constitution.  When Americans are forced to accept the Mark (probably an rfid chip).... you can thank the godless, idiot leftists.  You know... the ones that bash conservatives.
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Re: You may soon have to give your DNA to the state and pay $250 for the privilege
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2019, 05:38:42 pm »
Quote from: catfish1957 on February 20, 2019, 05:30:38 pm
Opt in then Buddy.  i hope some unscrupulous bureaucrat sells your dna data, and you suffer the consequences.

They already sell and even give other similar data away for free. It is no stretch at all to believe an insurance company would love this data to rate you based on genetic potential, not actual conditions. The PKU blood test data that has been collected since the 60s has already been used against people getting jobs because of the financial risk to insure them. These were not 'opt-in', several states were mandating this test on all infants born in their state.
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Re: You may soon have to give your DNA to the state and pay $250 for the privilege
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2019, 05:47:23 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on February 20, 2019, 05:22:48 pm
You have only been required to be finger printed to drive...

Not yet in Texas, but they do for your carry license.
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Re: You may soon have to give your DNA to the state and pay $250 for the privilege
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2019, 05:52:40 pm »
Quote from: thackney on February 20, 2019, 05:47:23 pm
Not yet in Texas, but they do for your carry license.

Texas passed it for new licenses. 6 states have this. California, Colorado, Georgia, Hawaii (in some cities), Texas, and West Virginia.
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Re: You may soon have to give your DNA to the state and pay $250 for the privilege
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2019, 06:17:22 pm »
Quote from: thackney on February 20, 2019, 05:47:23 pm
Not yet in Texas, but they do for your carry license.
North Dakota either (CCW is optional in state for residents), but the fingerprints are for FBI and ND BCI background investigations.
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Re: You may soon have to give your DNA to the state and pay $250 for the privilege
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2019, 06:19:21 pm »
Quote from: ABX on February 20, 2019, 04:34:27 pm
Pushed by Republicans to boot...
When/what the Left can't advance toward the totalitarian goal, the GOP often does. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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Re: You may soon have to give your DNA to the state and pay $250 for the privilege
« Reply #13 on: February 21, 2019, 12:39:33 am »
"You may soon have to give your DNA to the state and pay $250 for the privilege"

I don't see this surviving a "5th and 4th Amendment" challenge.

I could be wrong.
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Re: You may soon have to give your DNA to the state and pay $250 for the privilege
« Reply #14 on: February 21, 2019, 12:47:07 am »
Quote from: thackney on February 20, 2019, 05:47:23 pm
Not yet in Texas, but they do for your carry license.

Same here in FL.
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Re: You may soon have to give your DNA to the state and pay $250 for the privilege
« Reply #15 on: February 21, 2019, 01:13:23 am »
Quote from: truth_seeker on February 20, 2019, 05:22:48 pm
You have only been required to be finger printed to drive, to be a real estate agent, for what...decades?

Not here.

And no, I will give them exactly 'not a damn thing' without a warrant, and even at that, only what they can find.
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Re: You may soon have to give your DNA to the state and pay $250 for the privilege
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2019, 01:27:39 am »
Quote from: Smokin Joe on February 20, 2019, 06:19:21 pm
When/what the Left can't advance toward the totalitarian goal, the GOP often does. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

I submit that it is done in complicity.
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