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Last year's deficit with Mexico under the old NAFTA was 71 billion. There is no reasonable assessment of the new NAFTA that doesn't save the U.S. 10's of billions...ensuring 75% of all auto parts are made here will, by itself save multiple billions. The only part you are correct about is that its not yet in place despite the signing of the agreement...though there is little doubt it will be approved by congress.So yes, the new NAFTA pays for the wall and then some. And yes, this means Mexico pays for the wall.
The only part you are correct about is that its not yet in place despite the signing of the agreement...though there is little doubt it will be approved by congress.
The ‘only’ part I’m right about is the most important aspect. Until there’s an actual agreement and wall funds are authorized, none of it means a thing.
No doubt about it.Trump is the first time in more than a generation that the Pub party actually had a leader who cared more about the USA than himself or the "good" of the party, or the concerns of the chamber of commerce. The shame of it is instead of getting behind him and helping him (he's obviously not the most nuanced politician) most only thought about themselves and their personal empowerment. The end result was the loss of the House and probably the loss of the Senate in 2020. Eventually the establishment Pubs will be marginalized and a more conservative party will emerge. The issue will be whether they will be able to gain a majority, because the demographics of the country and the culture are changing so quickly.
Trump doesn’t care about America or Americans .... he cares about feeding his ego....before all is said and done, you will learn this. Unfortunately at that point it will be too late for the GOP
Trump: 'Does Anybody Really Think I Won’t Build the WALL?'Well sir, no disrespect, but I'd feel more confident if you declared that "emergency" you been talkin' about, send in the troops, and got a-goin' on it...
Mexico already has paid for it....money from the rewrite of NAFTA has MORE than covered the Wall costs. The only issue now is getting congress to do its part to allocate a small portion of that Mexican money, freshly in our coffers thanks to Trump’s imposition of the new NAFTA, to the Wall.
So it is OK for him to break a campaign promise?
If you did not vote for Trump than you have no say in the matter.
IMHO, it was too late for the GOP when they once again in their infinite wisdom elected McConnell to lead the Senate and Ryan to lead the House. Nothing changed.
That is absurd. I sincerely doubt anyone here voted for Obama, but we bust him on ‘if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor’ all the time.
McConnell and Ryan had a once in a lifetime opportunity. They were at a nexus and took the wrong path. They pursued their own agendas instead of the greater principals that Trump correctly identified needed to be supported and followed. It was the Pub party that had no real plan to deal with the liberty destroying obamacare. It was the Pub party that had no real plan for all encompassing immigration reform. It was the Pub party that couldn't secure our borders. It was the Pub party that turned their back on the most defenseless in our society and increased funding to those who would kill them. It is disingenuous to blame Trump for political failures. He is not the career politician. Ryan and McConnell are career politicians. They knew when the best time was to bring the big issues to a head and did everything in their power to avoid that moment. Trump's failure was in listening to them.
If we stop fentanyl and organized crime, that does pay for itself. Well said. Along with the new North American agreement.
Nobody on the right gives a damn about NeverTrumpers least of all Trump supporters.
except that the majority of that stuff comes through legal ports of entry.......a wall will not have an impact on that
Trump voters will hold Trump accountable, people that didn't vote for Trump can hold Hillary accountable for the promises she made. Or hold whatever third party hack accountable for their promises. That's the way it works, you didn't vote for the winner you have no say until the then election. Nobody on the right gives a damn about NeverTrumpers least of all Trump supporters.
they haven't to date.......and they will vote for him regardless of whether or not the wall gets built......who else are you going to vote for? there's not going to be a GOP primary....I want to see an emergency get called to try to build. It'll be hilarious when that gets shot down because that's when the chances of building the wall will go to zero.
Your comments on this thread @bilo are well stated. Thanks for your insights. Sadly, here at TBR they fall on deaf ears amidst the Great Noise of the NeverTrump chasm.
