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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #350 on: January 25, 2019, 09:49:14 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on January 25, 2019, 09:36:10 pm
So ... again... why in the heck did he wait till he no loner had the majority in the House?? He should have made the push  much sooner and now WE lost!  WE lost big time.  No wall.  Illegals continue to pour across the border.  I hate to see what's in store for this country once the DEMS have full control.  It truly is a sad day.

Why did Trump call in the media and make such a circus??

Why didn't he call a national emergency long ago??   So many things he could have done and didn't. I continue to question why, just as I continue to ask why he appointed Rosenstein; sure seems like he did so to protect the left.

I'll be watching the SOTU ... only to hear what he will try to sell ...certainly not the wall.  Perhaps he'll be announcing he's stepping down.  That's just my guess.

No, I never wanted him to fail, not in the least.  I still see it as he stomped on the true conservative that was running and perhaps that was his purpose ...  no wall...illegal immigration is still an issue and amnesty is just around the corner... meanwhile Hillary still runs around free. 

I am disgusted.  The GOP had their chance and they blew it BIGLY!!!!!  **nononono*

If he does his wall speech I will vomit... :3:
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #351 on: January 25, 2019, 09:49:30 pm »
Quote from: corbe on January 25, 2019, 09:40:58 pm
Perhaps @libertybele it's because his Core Advisor Group (read: Family) never wanted a Wall.


Wait until he introduces a pet project they do like - paid family leave. Won’t that be fun?
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #352 on: January 25, 2019, 09:50:26 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on January 25, 2019, 09:47:39 pm
Senate just passed the bill to re-open the government.

It's amazing how fast they can move once they've thrown their base under the bus, eh?  They could have just given Chuck and Nancy everything they wanted last month.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #353 on: January 25, 2019, 09:51:58 pm »
Quote from: edpc on January 25, 2019, 09:49:30 pm

Wait until he introduces a pet project they do like - paid family leave. Won’t that be fun?

He can certainly count on help from the Rats in Congress, and the RINOs in the Senate.  The Rats will find a way to get on a Trump Train that's headed to their side.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #354 on: January 25, 2019, 09:52:37 pm »
AB Stoddard on Cavuto just said Pelosi/Shumer will NEVER agree to a wall on his watch...he played his hand and folded....
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #355 on: January 25, 2019, 09:53:10 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on January 25, 2019, 09:49:14 pm
If he does his wall speech I will vomit... :3:

I'd have an extra barf bag standing by.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #356 on: January 25, 2019, 09:53:45 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on January 25, 2019, 09:52:37 pm
AB Stoddard on Cavuto just said Pelosi/Shumer will NEVER agree to a wall on his watch...he played his hand and folded....

There are no "do overs" in Poker.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #357 on: January 25, 2019, 09:55:03 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on January 25, 2019, 09:52:37 pm
AB Stoddard on Cavuto just said Pelosi/Shumer will NEVER agree to a wall on his watch...he played his hand and folded....


He finally got tired of all the winning. Besides, the emergency declaration was way too easy.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #358 on: January 25, 2019, 09:57:16 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on January 25, 2019, 09:52:37 pm
AB Stoddard on Cavuto just said Pelosi/Shumer will NEVER agree to a wall on his watch...he played his hand and folded....

I agree with AB.  The Wall is now a dead issue.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #359 on: January 25, 2019, 09:58:28 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on January 25, 2019, 09:36:10 pm
No, I never wanted him to fail, not in the least.  I still see it as he stomped on the true conservative that was running and perhaps that was his purpose ...  no wall...illegal immigration is still an issue and amnesty is just around the corner... meanwhile Hillary still runs around free. 

@libertybele

Soaring deficits, a swampier Swamp, repeal Obamacare, PP funding, restoring American pride...I'd give him failing marks for trade deals, and foreign affairs...YMMV

But the worst thing that Trump did was pit God fearing, gun loving, abortion hating, American business supporting, and rat loathing conservatives against each other.

I think Trump ran to elect Hitlery.  When Trump failed the plan changed to destroying the GOP from with in.




This IS what winning looks like.  Are you sick of winning?
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #360 on: January 25, 2019, 09:58:36 pm »
Quote from: HoustonSam on January 25, 2019, 09:57:16 pm
I agree with AB.  The Wall is now a dead issue.

He lost that when he lost the house.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #361 on: January 25, 2019, 09:59:31 pm »
Quote from: edpc on January 25, 2019, 09:55:03 pm

He finally got tired of all the winning. Besides, the emergency declaration was way too easy.

The Federal Courts have already proven an emergency declaration won't get the job done in time to save Trump's reelection in 2020.  There will be six injunctions from Tuesday before the ink is dry on the EO.  The best thing for the GOP would be if he announces his retirement, the sooner the better.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #362 on: January 25, 2019, 09:59:59 pm »
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #363 on: January 25, 2019, 10:00:31 pm »
Quote from: HoustonSam on January 25, 2019, 09:57:16 pm
I agree with AB.  The Wall is now a dead issue.

And so is the USA as we have known it.   There will be something named that but it won't remotely resemble what it was.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #364 on: January 25, 2019, 10:00:59 pm »
Quote from: ABX on January 25, 2019, 09:58:36 pm
He lost that when he lost the house.

That's true.  This entire shutdown business just put the final dollop of paint on the "Under New Management" sign.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #365 on: January 25, 2019, 10:01:17 pm »
Quote from: HoustonSam on January 25, 2019, 08:56:19 pm
Trump lost, huge.  And in this instance his loss is also the country's loss.

The man who was going to drain the swamp was instead overcome by it.  People can disagree about who defeated him - Pelosi, gutless Congressional Republicans, the six R Senators, the media, etc.  But whoever defeated him, he was defeated on his signature issue.

Naive faith that he has a plan, he knows how to build walls, he never quits, is simply whistling past the graveyard by those who can't admit that they backed a losing horse who loudly proclaimed himself a winner.

Exactly what leverage does Trump now have to get the wall built?  Yes he could make bellicose statements that he'll let the government close down in February and *keep* it closed down.  But what would make the Democrats, the gutless Congressional Republicans, or the media operate any differently next time?  Why would there be a different outcome?

He can still declare a national emergency, and I hope he will.  But we all know that would immediately be stayed by a Federal Court.  The time required for that question to work through the Federal Judiciary will occupy the remainder of his term, and there is no guarantee the Roberts-led USSC would rule in Trump's favor.

Yes, he is better than a Democrat president.  Yes, he has put two Constitutionalists on the USSC.  Yes, he has taken a clear position against regulation.   Yes, the market boomed after his election.  But his signature issue, the reason he ran, was The Wall and he lost it.  It is now proven empirically that he is not capable of doing what he said, and what many believed, he could do.

If he runs again I'll most likely vote for him, but my bet is that his administration is essentially finished.



That is a great post @HoustonSam .  I agree from start to finish.
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« Reply #366 on: January 25, 2019, 10:02:28 pm »
What we saw today...was the result of Chuck and Nancy thumbing through their well worn copies of Rules for Radicals and happening upon Rule #11:

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"The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."

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"Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it."


The GOP needs to realize there are only two sets of guidelines that the Dems use to reign down "utopia" on our heads...Rules for Radicals and The Communist Manifesto.  And they whip our @ss using those two books as guides....every single time.


When it comes to politics...The GOP out there trying to do some advanced triangulation mixed with some advanced calculus to find the square root of X.

It's not that hard to beat them if we remember one simple undeniable truth...

Conservatism wins every time it's tried.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #367 on: January 25, 2019, 10:04:30 pm »
Quote from: Elderberry on January 25, 2019, 08:21:04 pm
Instead of focusing on the wall, why can’t the focus be on why they are coming here in the first place? Handouts, pure and simple. Stop the handouts. Stop free medical, stop free schooling, stop their filing for IRS credits. Go after companies hiring un E-verified employees.  Dry up their ability to live off the government tit. Go after identity theft. Dry up all the money sources for illegal aliens.


That has been my thought for years. But I think the politickin' gets in the way of a common sense solution.  The only thing I would add is do whatever is necessary to end anchor babies.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #368 on: January 25, 2019, 10:07:35 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on January 25, 2019, 10:02:28 pm
It's not that hard to beat them if we remember one simple undeniable truth...

Conservatism wins every time it's tried.

I laugh every time Rush pushes that pablum.  Fact Check #1.  Trump is the President.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #369 on: January 25, 2019, 10:07:49 pm »
Quote from: corbe on January 25, 2019, 09:59:59 pm

Actually a lot of the sites really are. Has anybody ever seen 3 Full House on the table? Or 3 Four of a Kind? Some of those games are insane. You pop 4 Kings and some bot pulls out 4 Aces. The odds of that are infinite.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #370 on: January 25, 2019, 10:10:37 pm »
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I laugh every time Rush pushes that pablum.  Fact Check #1.  Trump is the President.

Reagan is proof that statement is true...it isn't "pablum"...we haven't had a truly conservative President since Regan left office.

His track record on the economy and what he did to bring this country from the brink after 4 years of Carter is undeniable.  The effects of his economic polices alone carried into the Clinton and Bush 43 presidencies.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #371 on: January 25, 2019, 10:12:19 pm »
Quote from: berdie on January 25, 2019, 10:04:30 pm

That has been my thought for years. But I think the politickin' gets in the way of a common sense solution.  The only thing I would add is do whatever is necessary to end anchor babies.

@berdie

As I said earlier on this thread, fixing the illegal immigration problem is easy. Finding ANYONE in government with the intestinal fortitude to do it is damned near impossible!
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #372 on: January 25, 2019, 10:16:44 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on January 25, 2019, 10:10:37 pm
Reagan is proof that statement is true...it isn't "pablum"...we haven't had a truly conservative President since Regan left office.

His track record on the economy and what he did to bring this country from the brink after 4 years of Carter is undeniable.  The effects of his economic polices alone carried into the Clinton and Bush 43 presidencies.

So did his immigration policies.
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #373 on: January 25, 2019, 10:18:04 pm »
Quote from: Cyber Liberty on January 25, 2019, 09:59:31 pm
The Federal Courts have already proven an emergency declaration won't get the job done in time to save Trump's reelection in 2020.  There will be six injunctions from Tuesday before the ink is dry on the EO.  The best thing for the GOP would be if he announces his retirement, the sooner the better.


Oh, I know it would get bogged down. DACA and the travel ban have demonstrated that. I was being dry and mocking what he’s said and the fact some here think SCOTUS would let that case jump the appeals process and rule on in within weeks.



Sorry...
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Re: Drudge: Shutdown Agreement reached
« Reply #374 on: January 25, 2019, 10:27:53 pm »
Quote from: edpc on January 25, 2019, 10:18:04 pm

Oh, I know it would get bogged down. DACA and the travel ban have demonstrated that. I was being dry and mocking what he’s said and the fact some here think SCOTUS would let that case jump the appeals process and rule on in within weeks.



Sorry...

Maybe if some Congresscritter's wives start getting gang-raped by MS-13 types, things will change.   But fat chance of that since they all live comfortably in their gated communities.
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