Author Topic: Nathan Phillipsâ€™ DD-214 RELEASED â€“ And Shows Heâ€™s Not Quite What He Claims (Read 3200 times)

mystery-ak · « **on:** January 23, 2019, 04:07:02 pm »

Nathan Phillipsâ€™ DD-214 RELEASED â€“ And Shows Heâ€™s Not Quite What He Claims

Posted at 10:37 pm on January 22, 2019 by Jennifer Van Laar

While many mainstream news outlets have been pathologically fixed on researching everything having to do with Covington Catholic High School and The Covington Kids, precious few (Iâ€™d wager none) have devoted any resources to researching anything regarding Nathan Phillipsâ€™ military service or anything else about him. On Monday Streiff reported that it was mathematically impossible that Phillips served in the Vietnam war, but Phillipsâ€™ DD-214 wasnâ€™t publicly available.

Late Tuesday, that changed. Retired Navy SEAL Don Shipley shared Nathan Phillipsâ€™ (a/k/a Nathan Stanard) DD-214, which heâ€™d acquired through a FOIA request. Shipley discusses its contents in this video:
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Bigun · « **Reply #1 on:** January 23, 2019, 04:08:29 pm »

REALLY??? Who would have ever guessed??? /s

mystery-ak · « **Reply #2 on:** January 23, 2019, 04:09:59 pm »

I didn't know you could request a copy of someone's DD-214 through FOIA...I have always thought only the person it belongs to could release it.....

Case in point..why didn't anyone use the FOIA to get Kerry's?....we heard at the time that Kerry would have to release it.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #3 on:** January 23, 2019, 04:13:35 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on January 23, 2019, 04:09:59 pm

I didn't know you could request a copy of someone's DD-214 through FOIA...I have always thought only the person it belongs to could release it.....

Case in point..why didn't anyone use the FOIA to get Kerry's?....we heard at the time that Kerry would have to release it.

That question came immediately to mind when I saw this title and I recalled 2004. How did this get released, and by whom?

Machiavelli · « **Reply #4 on:** January 23, 2019, 06:40:48 pm »

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ABX · « **Reply #5 on:** January 23, 2019, 06:46:28 pm »

FYI if you didn't know, Don Shipley in this video is beyond the real deal and has exposed a lot of fake SEALs and 'operators'.

dfwgator · « **Reply #6 on:** January 23, 2019, 06:47:56 pm »

"Yeah it was real hush hush!"

Sorry...

txradioguy · « **Reply #7 on:** January 23, 2019, 07:02:38 pm »

Quote from: mystery-ak on January 23, 2019, 04:09:59 pm

I didn't know you could request a copy of someone's DD-214 through FOIA...I have always thought only the person it belongs to could release it.....

The folks that chase down stolen valor and military fakers do it all the time. There's a cost to it IIRC and it takes some time...but it can be done. Done Shipley is one of the best at sniffing out the fakes and the thieves and so was the late Jonn Lilyea.

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Case in point..why didn't anyone use the FOIA to get Kerry's?....we heard at the time that Kerry would have to release it.

IIRC Kerry...despite promising to do so never signed the Form 180 to make all his records public. Had he done so it would reveal that his Less Than Honorable discharge upgraded to Honorable after Carter pardoned the draft dodgers in '77. His Honorable Discharge was signed by the Secretary of The Navy not an ordinary Admiral or the commander of the last reserve unit he served in.

Also...the media had no interest in doing a FOIA on his records...he's one of them. Meanwhile I was in the Texas Army National Guard when Bush 43 was running and there were over 200 FOIA requests to the state headquarters for W's 2-1 personnel file while he was still a candidate.

Sanguine · « **Reply #8 on:** January 23, 2019, 08:57:59 pm »

Well done.

I am Ten Bears.

To-Whose-Benefit? · « **Reply #9 on:** January 23, 2019, 10:52:20 pm »

"I Can't Say I'm Sorry" Says Covington MAGA Hat Teen; "Vietnam Vet" Indian Outed As Fridge-Fixer

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-01-23/i-cant-say-im-sorry-says-covington-maga-hat-teen-vietnam-vet-indian-outed-fridge

Machiavelli · « **Reply #10 on:** January 23, 2019, 11:20:42 pm »

Quote from: To-Whose-Benefit? on January 23, 2019, 10:52:20 pm

NavyCanDo · « **Reply #11 on:** January 24, 2019, 12:12:21 am »

Served 4 years and still a E1. That is what we would have called a serious F%&@-up.

LMAO · « **Reply #12 on:** January 24, 2019, 12:15:41 am »

IMO, the bigger issue in all this is the performance of the news media. They horribly neglected their responsibility in this case and that's why trust in them continues at a record low

240B · « **Reply #13 on:** January 24, 2019, 12:21:45 am »

Quote from: mystery-ak on January 23, 2019, 04:09:59 pm

I didn't know you could request a copy of someone's DD-214 through FOIA...I have always thought only the person it belongs to could release it.....

Case in point..why didn't anyone use the FOIA to get Kerry's?....we heard at the time that Kerry would have to release it.

I agree. Getting a 214 on someone is very unusual. There is a lot more very personal info on a 214 than just a military record. I don't understand this either?

jmyrlefuller · « **Reply #14 on:** January 24, 2019, 12:39:59 am »

Quote from: 240B on January 24, 2019, 12:21:45 am

I agree. Getting a 214 on someone is very unusual. There is a lot more very personal info on a 214 than just a military record. I don't understand this either?

I would assume the very personal stuff would be redacted. But still... I didn't think FOIA covered military affairs anyway. Isn't that stuff classified unless otherwise stated?

240B · « **Reply #15 on:** January 24, 2019, 12:45:33 am »

Quote from: jmyrlefuller on January 24, 2019, 12:39:59 am

I would assume the very personal stuff would be redacted. But still... I didn't think FOIA covered military affairs anyway. Isn't that stuff classified unless otherwise stated?

@jmyrlefuller
I know. Who was the Judge or legal body that would even approve such a request? What possible legal justification could there be?

Phillips may be able to sue someone over this.

To-Whose-Benefit? · « **Reply #16 on:** January 24, 2019, 12:57:40 am »

Quote from: 240B on January 24, 2019, 12:45:33 am

@jmyrlefuller
I know. Who was the Judge or legal body that would even approve such a request? What possible legal justification could there be?

Phillips may be able to sue someone over this.

Put me on the jury.

Little, more despicable than stolen valor.

bigheadfred · « **Reply #17 on:** January 24, 2019, 01:01:24 am »

I fixed a fridge up into a smoker. Sent some signals with it one day. All that showed up was a skunk.

Wingnut · « **Reply #18 on:** January 24, 2019, 02:12:14 am »

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #19 on:** January 24, 2019, 09:35:00 am »

Quote from: The Ghost on January 24, 2019, 02:12:14 am

Not Christmas in Cambodia, Seared into their memories?

verga · « **Reply #20 on:** January 24, 2019, 12:19:56 pm »

And the Media is still doubling down.

Smokin Joe · « **Reply #21 on:** January 24, 2019, 12:34:52 pm »

Quote from: verga on January 24, 2019, 12:19:56 pm

And the Media is still doubling down.

They're Liberals. It's what they do.

Restored · « **Reply #22 on:** January 24, 2019, 12:51:57 pm »

Quote from: 240B on January 24, 2019, 12:21:45 am

I agree. Getting a 214 on someone is very unusual. There is a lot more very personal info on a 214 than just a military record. I don't understand this either?

Correct. We are trying to get my wife's uncle's DD214 and he is dead.

LMAO · « **Reply #23 on:** January 24, 2019, 02:41:57 pm »

Quote from: verga on January 24, 2019, 12:19:56 pm

And the Media is still doubling down.

Some are slightly retracting. Some are doubling down.

I think weâ€™re losing sight of the big picture here. The DD 214 issue is nothing. The big issue is how the media conducted itself. There was no curiosity. No initial investigation to see if the story was what was claimed. Itâ€™s so fit their narrative that to them that was good enough to run it as true. We are supposed to rely on the news media to be a watchdog especially for those who are in power. Instead, theyâ€™ve become watchdogs against the American people who disagree with them

Whether or not this Nathan Phillips served in Vietnam or not is unimportant. Heâ€™s going to go away. Whatâ€™s not gonna go away is the press that have decided that their narratives are the news

bigheadfred · « **Reply #24 on:** January 24, 2019, 02:50:43 pm »

Quote from: LMAO on January 24, 2019, 02:41:57 pm

Some are slightly retracting. Some are doubling down.

I think weâ€™re losing sight of the big picture here. The DD 214 issue is nothing. The big issue is how the media conducted itself. There was no curiosity. No initial investigation to see if the story was what was claimed. Itâ€™s so fit their narrative that to them that was good enough to run it as true. We are supposed to rely on the news media to be a watchdog especially for those who are in power. Instead, theyâ€™ve become watchdogs against the American people who disagree with them

Whether or not this Nathan Phillips served in Vietnam or not is unimportant. Heâ€™s going to go away. Whatâ€™s not gonna go away is the press that have decided that their narratives are the news

Perhaps a slight revision.

Whatâ€™s not gonna go away is the press that have decided that their narratives are the truth