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I do not go along with banning CNN from this site but I find it hard to understand why anyone would want to post a story from them without serious fact checking.



More to the point, why would anyone trust ANY source without serious fact checking?
That should be WHY things are posted, CNN included.

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Any particular reason you are dredging up a 2 day old argument that the boss told the folks involved in to walk away from?

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One little troll, trolling 3 separate people.  Wow.

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One little troll, trolling 3 separate people.  Wow.

...except that @Emjay had already posted that @Amb. Frank Cannon 's reply was to her ONLY post on the thread.

Quite possible that she hadn't kept up with the thread or Myst's warning.

Show me another 9 page thread that didn't go off the rails.   No! Never mind. Don't show me.
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...except that @Emjay had already posted that @Amb. Frank Cannon 's reply was to her ONLY post on the thread.

Quite possible that she hadn't kept up with the thread or Myst's warning.

Show me another 9 page thread that didn't go off the rails.   No! Never mind. Don't show me.

Oh good, you knew who I was talking about.

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   I want to take this opportunity to stand in the affirmative for some of these lost and derailed, multipage Threads @DCPatriot FOR more often than not they can be quite entertaining for the few Briefers that play there, IMHO.
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More to the point, why would anyone trust ANY source without serious fact checking?
That should be WHY things are posted, CNN included.
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Exactly...in truth, I would posit that THEORETICALLY, even the foulest crap from the bowels of the Internet (like storm front, et al) should not be banned.   They should all be held up to the light of day and the posters who post crap from places like that should be held to defend that posting.   Don’t get me wrong, I completely get why @mystery-ak has drawn that line in the sand AND AGREE.  But, we should serve as disinfectant not just sweep the stuff we don’t like under the rug and pretend it doesn’t exist.  Thus anything that is put on that other side of the line should be done so onlybwith careful deliberation.

And as I said on the other thread, I weep for my country when conservatives state that they want information banned.  Truly depressing and tragic.
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   I want to take this opportunity to stand in the affirmative for some of these lost and derailed, multipage Threads @DCPatriot FOR more often than not they can be quite entertaining for the few Briefers that play there, IMHO.

For some reasons, threads like that make me think of Pecan Pie. :pondering:
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For some reasons, threads like that make me think of Pecan Pie. :pondering:

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I like pie and cornbread! But not together mind you.
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[...] we should serve as disinfectant not just sweep the stuff we don’t like under the rug and pretend it doesn’t exist. 


That's how I see it too. In fact, the stuff we don't like would be all the more important to post and dissect... Prove it wrong... Or if true, at least we can know what's coming.

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And as I said on the other thread, I weep for my country when conservatives state that they want information banned.  Truly depressing and tragic.

Absolutely... The worst place to be is in an echo chamber. That is not Conservative by any stretch.

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That's how I see it too. In fact, the stuff we don't like would be all the more important to post and dissect... Prove it wrong... Or if true, at least we can know what's coming.

Absolutely... The worst place to be is in an echo chamber. That is not Conservative by any stretch.

My point is, and always was, Why bring in crap that you know you are going to have to disinfect before the fact!  Seems like a waste to me.  I generally know what the leftist bastards at CNN are going to say long before they actually say it.

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My point is, and always was, Why bring in crap that you know you are going to have to disinfect before the fact!  Seems like a waste to me.  I generally know what the leftist bastards at CNN are going to say long before they actually say it.

If that is true, it should take nothing to disprove it - And in doing so, provide a service to lurkers, the ill informed, and the internet in general. Ignoring it allows it to stand.

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If that is true, it should take nothing to disprove it - And in doing so, provide a service to lurkers, the ill informed, and the internet in general. Ignoring it allows it to stand.

That may all very well be true @roamer_1, but it still seems a bit backward to me to allow someone to bring a bag of cow dung into my house just so I can clean it up!
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Sorry @txradioguy but I vehemently disagree with you on this one!  We should not be in the business of spreading CNN propaganda!

You are right, @Bigun in that, why give em any clicks? They lie, they advocate for the left, they’re hostile to the president, they can barely hide their contempt, and they’re openly pursuing a vendetta to politically or personally damage him, anyone next to him, his family and his supporters! I’m surprised they can control their drooling during their endless discussions of Trump’s impeachable offenses.

But, I think it’s better their stuff is debunked on these pages, because I know it won’t be on others. Plus, I get a certain satisfaction out of seeing their narratives flayed and filleted.

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...And by the way, no one does it better than Tucker Carlson. Genius!

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Maybe we should just make a list of every website that no stories should be posted from.

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Maybe we should just make a list of every website that no stories should be posted from.

The 1st rule of TBR is not to list those sites
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Maybe we should just make a list of every website that no stories should be posted from.

Maybe we should require proof that members know how to structure a sentence.   
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    Not many articles here from Brietbart either /JS.   
    It's a slippery slope folks, whether it be The Hill or Politico, step back Briefers, this is not what Conservatives are known for.
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    Not many articles here from Brietbart either /JS.   
    It's a slippery slope folks, whether it be The Hill or Politico, step back Briefers, this is not what Conservatives are known for.

If I could be talked into banning a "news" site it would Natural News... But the simple truth is we each need to be able to decide for ourselves what is "true" or "fake" and not hand that responsibility to someone else. Wading through crap comes with the territory.

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If I could be talked into banning a "news" site it would Natural News... But the simple truth is we each need to be able to decide for ourselves what is "true" or "fake" and not hand that responsibility to someone else. Wading through crap comes with the territory.
It seems that everyone hs their pet site they don't like, but if we ban all of them, maybe we could sit around and discuss  crochetting technique or the weather.
Meh.

Drag them in here, and either debunk or confirm it.

As for any site, there are often either elements of truth, or occasionally, they bring things up that need to be dug into. Stopped clocks are still right twice a day,
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Maybe we should require proof that members know how to structure a sentence.

Oooooh. That's gonna leave a mark. BURN!!!!!