Trump: US-Mexican Border Wall Would Not Be Solid Concrete

[rangerrebew]

Trump: US-Mexican Border Wall Would Not Be Solid Concrete
Last Updated: December 31, 2018 7:05 PM

    Ken Bredemeier
    Michael Bowman
 

U.S. President Donald Trump acknowledged Monday that not all of the barrier he wants to build along the Mexican border would be a concrete wall he has long called for.

"An all concrete Wall was NEVER ABANDONED, as has been reported by the media," Trump contended in a Twitter remark. He was disputing John Kelly, his outgoing White House chief of staff, who said in an interview over the weekend that the Trump administration discarded the idea of a "solid concrete wall" early in Trump's two-year tenure as president.

But Trump conceded, "Some areas will be all concrete but the experts at Border Patrol prefer a Wall that is see through (thereby making it possible to see what is happening on both sides). Makes sense to me!"

https://www.voanews.com/a/trump-us-mexican-border-wall-would-not-be-solid-concrete/4722784.html

[Fishrrman]

It should be solid concrete, the entire length.
Works for the Israelis...

[thackney]

It should be solid concrete, the entire length.
Works for the Israelis...

Not all of the Israel border wall is solid concrete.  There are places where it is better to be able to see the other side.



https://www.timesofisrael.com/gaza-sea-barrier-nears-completion/

[Fishrrman]

That pic above still looks impressive.
Looks like TWO "walls" there (probably separated by a "strip" on which patrol vehicles can drive.

[thackney]

That pic above still looks impressive.
Looks like TWO "walls" there (probably separated by a "strip" on which patrol vehicles can drive.

Agreed.  Solid concrete is not required to make a useful wall.

[roamer_1]

That pic above still looks impressive.
Looks like TWO "walls" there (probably separated by a "strip" on which patrol vehicles can drive.

I sure as heck would not be caught dead driving in that strip... A week of observation and all range finding and timing would be calculated, with no ability to evade, no randomization.

That's a screaming friggin death chute.

[Fishrrman]

roamer wrote:
"I sure as heck would not be caught dead driving in that strip"

Sections of the Berlin Wall were built that way, with a paved strip for the Stasi to patrol on.

I was there (went through the wall to the other side, too...)

[Frank Cannon]

Trump: US-Mexican Border Wall Would Not Be Solid Concrete

Of course it won't. Porous concrete breaths better in hot climates. 

[Sanguine]

I don't think it can be the same structure all the way through.  Different sites will call for different types of barrier.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

For all the money Congress burns the could build the effing thing out of titanium.

[GtHawk]

For all the money Congress burns the could build the effing thing out of titanium.

Considering how things have been going, I expect it will be made of unobtanium, not titanium.

[Smokin Joe]

I don't think it can be the same structure all the way through.  Different sites will call for different types of barrier.

Bingo! Very good, and you go to the head of the class. Different geological substrates will require different engineering approaches and to some degree will determine what sort of barrier structure would be most cost effective while retaining efficacy. Where solid bedrock is near surface, solid concrete is a possibility, where there are deep and relatively unconsolidated sediments, fence lines may be more stable and cost effective.


It makes no sense to try to erect a barrier that will fall over because the foundation won't hold.