More millennials are moving back home - and it's making everyone depressed:

[rangerrebew]

More millennials are moving back home - and it's making everyone depressed:

20-somethings AND their parents experience a blow to their mental health when they ‘boomerang’ back, studies find

    About a third of young American adults live with their parents
    Many of them have moved out and 'boomeranged' back amid financial or personal stress
    Researchers at the Max Planck Institute in Germany found that moving back home might save money, but it can tank confidence and mental health
    Previous London School of Economics research found that parents' quality of life worsens as much as if they developed a disability when their children move back

By Natalie Rahhal Deputy Health Editor For Dailymail.com

Published: 13:40 EST, 20 November 2018 | Updated: 18:33 EST, 20 November 2018

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6410835/More-millennials-moving-home-making-depressed-studies-find.html

[Frank Cannon]

I have half an idea where this 33% live....

[goodwithagun]

Who raised these millennials? I don’t feel sorry for their parents.

[txradioguy]

Who raised these millennials? I don’t feel sorry for their parents.

As the parent of two millennials let me say in my defense that sometimes it's situations beyond their control.

My son had to move back in temporarily because the room mate he had an apartment with flaked on him and moved back in with his ex girlfriend and my sone was stuck with an apartment that his name wasn't on the lease.

He's trying to find a place right now but it's a little pricey in Colorado Springs to do it on your own...so he's helping out and paying us some money while he stays at our place and looks for a new one of his own.

[Night Hides Not]

As the parent of two millennials let me say in my defense that sometimes it's situations beyond their control.

My son had to move back in temporarily because the room mate he had an apartment with flaked on him and moved back in with his ex girlfriend and my sone was stuck with an apartment that his name wasn't on the lease.

He's trying to find a place right now but it's a little pricey in Colorado Springs to do it on your own...so he's helping out and paying us some money while he stays at our place and looks for a new one of his own.

Same thing happened with my oldest son: one of his cousins and a friend flaked out on the apartment lease.

We've been charging him nominal rent, as he's now saving up for his marriage in the near future. His fiancée, a lovely girl in every way, will be a welcome addition to our family.

O/T, her Christmas gifts to me the past two years have been nothing short of perfect. They weren't expensive, but very thoughtful.

[goodwithagun]

As the parent of two millennials let me say in my defense that sometimes it's situations beyond their control.

My son had to move back in temporarily because the room mate he had an apartment with flaked on him and moved back in with his ex girlfriend and my sone was stuck with an apartment that his name wasn't on the lease.

He's trying to find a place right now but it's a little pricey in Colorado Springs to do it on your own...so he's helping out and paying us some money while he stays at our place and looks for a new one of his own.

I’m not lumping all millennials together; there are always extenuating circumstances.

[Dexter]

Millennials were born into an America that's hard to get by in when you're starting from the bottom. They didn't ask for that; they had no choice. Blaming them for struggling is cruel and unfair.

[txradioguy]

Millennials were born into an America that's hard to get by in when you're starting from the bottom. They didn't ask for that; they had no choice. Blaming them for struggling is cruel and unfair.

If their parents didn't equip them with the necessary life skills to survive on their own it's very much the parents fault.

If the millennials are the type that's too lazy to get off their X Box or playstation to get a job and do nothing to help around the house...it's very much the fault of the lazy 20 something.

It's excuses like you're trying to make for them that give individuals the justification to not get out and try to make something of themselves.

[Dexter]

If their parents didn't equip them with the necessary life skills to survive on their own it's very much the parents fault.

If the millennials are the type that's too lazy to get off their X Box or playstation to get a job and do nothing to help around the house...it's very much the fault of the lazy 20 something.

It's excuses like you're trying to make for them that give individuals the justification to not get out and try to make something of themselves.

I'm not saying people should give up. I'm saying it's a lot harder for young people to be financially independent these days due to decisions that were made before they were born. There's a whole lot of millennials out there working their asses off for not a whole lot of pay. It must have been nice when one income could easily support a household and pay for college out of pocket.

[Oceander]

I'm not saying people should give up. I'm saying it's a lot harder for young people to be financially independent these days due to decisions that were made before they were born. There's a whole lot of millennials out there working their asses off for not a whole lot of pay. It must have been nice when one income could easily support a household and pay for college out of pocket.

It is a lot harder to get started on the ground floor than it used to be. A lot of that has to do with government policies on pay and benefits; it’s simply a lot more expensive to take someone on at the ground floor in the hope that he or she will develop some strong skills from the experience.  As a result, fewer people can get in through what used to be the tried and true method.

[musiclady]

Millennials were born into an America that's hard to get by in when you're starting from the bottom. They didn't ask for that; they had no choice. Blaming them for struggling is cruel and unfair.

We raised four millennials, all of whom are productive citizens, living on their own, and contributing to the betterment of society.  We help them financially when it is needed, mostly because they never ask for it and are thankful when it is given.

It's not hard to get by in America if you were raised with a work ethic.  Our kids stood out from others even in their summer jobs in high school because they showed up for work on time and worked hard, and their peers didn't.

The problem is not with America per se, it is with the baby boomers who raised lazy, self-absorbed children who don't know how to work, but expect to live by the same standards as their parents who worked for decades to get what they have.

(Temporary help and housing, as has been mentioned above, is not the same as having children who are basically indolent.....which describes many millennials).

[dfwgator]

Same thing happened with my oldest son: one of his cousins and a friend flaked out on the apartment lease.

We've been charging him nominal rent, as he's now saving up for his marriage in the near future. His fiancée, a lovely girl in every way, will be a welcome addition to our family.

 

On the other hand, I look at it as,  when your kids pay rent, that transfers your family wealth to some other family.  Economically, it makes more sense to live at home sometimes, especially if it allows your kids to save the money to invest in.  And there's a tremendous advantage to start investing in your 20s, than waiting until your 30s.

Asians understand this concept, and that's why they are taking over.

[musiclady]

I'm not saying people should give up. I'm saying it's a lot harder for young people to be financially independent these days due to decisions that were made before they were born. There's a whole lot of millennials out there working their asses off for not a whole lot of pay. It must have been nice when one income could easily support a household and pay for college out of pocket.

A lot of millennials should have gone to trade school instead of college, and they'd be doing just fine.

[musiclady]

On the other hand, I look at it as,  when your kids pay rent, that transfers your family wealth to some other family.  Economically, it makes more sense to live at home sometimes, especially if it allows your kids to save the money to invest in.  And there's a tremendous advantage to start investing in your 20s, than waiting until your 30s.

I don't think that kids living at home paying rent fit the description of lazy millennials.

Sometimes circumstances require it.

(In the early 1970's I started teaching at $7,000/year and I couldn't afford both food and an apartment on that salary.  I lived at home and paid rent for a few years.  Not the same as "failure to launch").

[goodwithagun]

Millennials were born into an America that's hard to get by in when you're starting from the bottom. They didn't ask for that; they had no choice. Blaming them for struggling is cruel and unfair.

So were those born during the Depression, and then they liberated an entire continent. The difference is, the generation that I referred to didn’t get participation trophies. Cruel and unfair? Again, tell that to their parents who participation trophied them upon false self esteem pedestals while at the same time bowling down any obstacles in their paths. My kids’ peers’ parents are mostly millennials and they’re a hot mess. The few millennials who are making it are those who are taking advantage of the fact that their peers are a hot mess, and I say good for them.

[goodwithagun]

On the other hand, I look at it as,  when your kids pay rent, that transfers your family wealth to some other family.  Economically, it makes more sense to live at home sometimes, especially if it allows your kids to save the money to invest in.  And there's a tremendous advantage to start investing in your 20s, than waiting until your 30s.

Asians understand this concept, and that's why they are taking over.

If he’s paying rent, then he’s not in a classic millennial situation. Millennials don’t typically pay rent, mom and dad complain about it, but then give him money for a new iPhone because they don’t want to hurt his self esteem.

[Wingnut]

A lot of millennials should have gone to trade school instead of college, and they'd be doing just fine.

And that is the truth.   College is highly overrated and the cost to attend is a terrible value for degree alot of these kids come away with.  Yutes learning to be Plumbers, HVAC, electricians (to name just a few trades) can earn a hella good living long before a college grad pays off his student loans

[txradioguy]

I'm not saying people should give up. I'm saying it's a lot harder for young people to be financially independent these days due to decisions that were made before they were born. There's a whole lot of millennials out there working their asses off for not a whole lot of pay. It must have been nice when one income could easily support a household and pay for college out of pocket.

The socialist programs you so rabidly support are the reasons for those things you lament being harder now than in the past.

Pity you don't see that.

[Dexter]

The socialist programs you so rabidly support are the reasons for those things you lament being harder now than in the past.

Pity you don't see that.

Young people don't struggle like they do here in places like Sweden.

[dfwgator]

I don't think that kids living at home paying rent fit the description of lazy millennials.

Sometimes circumstances require it.

(In the early 1970's I started teaching at $7,000/year and I couldn't afford both food and an apartment on that salary.  I lived at home and paid rent for a few years.  Not the same as "failure to launch").

I agree, it doesn't necessarily mean lazy.  As I stated, it is becoming economic necessity for extended families to pull together to maximize wealth within the "clan". 

Just kicking the kids out and expecting them to make it on their own is not realistic anymore.   But the government has waged war on the family for decades, and now we see the bitter fruit that has come from it.

[Dexter]

It's not hard to get by in America if you were raised with a work ethic.

It's harder than it used to be. I think that's something older Americans don't give attention to often enough.

[Dexter]

A lot of millennials should have gone to trade school instead of college, and they'd be doing just fine.

Young people often have ridiculous desires, like chasing their passions and dreams. When tiny ones in your life tell you they want to be scientists and astronauts etc do you tell them they should chase their dreams, or that they should be more practical and look for an AC repair or welding job?

[Dexter]

Just kicking the kids out and expecting them to make it on their own is not realistic anymore.

Yet it's still expected a lot of the time, and a lot of young people are suffering a lot because of it. Young people work ridiculously hard. Suggesting otherwise is an insult.

[RoosGirl]

So were those born during the Depression, and then they liberated an entire continent. The difference is, the generation that I referred to didn’t get participation trophies. Cruel and unfair? Again, tell that to their parents who participation trophied them upon false self esteem pedestals while at the same time bowling down any obstacles in their paths. My kids’ peers’ parents are mostly millennials and they’re a hot mess. The few millennials who are making it are those who are taking advantage of the fact that their peers are a hot mess, and I say good for them.

Thank you.  I was thinking the same thing as I was reading through a couple of the comments here.  Babies whine, adults get shit done.

[Dexter]

Babies whine, adults get shit done.

Easy to say when you were part of the most privileged generation in the history of the world.