More millennials are moving back home - and it's making everyone depressed:

[Cyber Liberty]

I’ll be buying a two year old suv in two years. I’m looking at the Toyota Sequoia, Lexus GX460, and Land Rover Discovery. Any suggestions?

I've heard some not-so-good things about Land Rovers, but I have not spent a lot of time researching them.  Allegedly, they are not as robust as they show in their TeeVee commercials.  The Lexus is good, my SIL has one in Cali.

[Cyber Liberty]

I have a Subaru, Mr. M a little BMW. Oh yes, and a 1922 Chevrolet (if the restoration ever is completed).

Subarus are pretty good, despite their liberal granola TeeVee ads.  (Hint:  "Love" is not what makes a Subaru.  It's 4WD that makes a Subaru, last I checked.)

[mountaineer]

Subarus are pretty good, despite their liberal granola TeeVee ads.  (Hint:  "Love" is not what makes a Subaru.  It's 4WD that makes a Subaru, last I checked.)

I can't complain about an AWD car that gets 31+ mpg.

[Cyber Liberty]

I can't complain about an AWD car that gets 31+ mpg.

It'll go a lot of miles, too.

[Restored]

I have an Acura RDX and it is nice. The Foresters have really improved.

[Restored]

It'll go a lot of miles, too.

Even after the head gasket blows.
If you get a Subaru, get the turbo.

[mountaineer]

Even after the head gasket blows.
If you get a Subaru, get the turbo.

Now you tell me!! 

[Cyber Liberty]

Now you tell me!! 

Naw, just keep up on the oil changes and you'll be fine.

[Frank Cannon]

Correct.  So, what kind of cars do y'all drive?  Like them?

I have a 76 Aspen and another 6 more payments to Chrysler Corp and it will be all mine!!!!

[thackney]

I'm simply trying to demonstrate the futility of my struggle here. I've said my peace. I don't want to get 200 pages deep into this conversation because it's pointless. This isn't a right or wrong thing. We disagree on how the world should work.

No, it is not about how it should work.  It is how it DOES work.  Socialism is not a new concept.  It continues to show how it fails over and over.  People in Venezuela line up to search garbage.  Capitalism in the US produces more food than the population is capable of eating.  Those living here in poverty have choices in which free meal to select.

[roamer_1]

Those living here in poverty have choices in which free meal to select.

And that is dependent upon the definition of 'poverty'... According to the world standard, I have heard it said  (Probably Crowder) that 2% of the US population lives in true poverty. Enough to say it is there, but so small a number as to be within the margin of error.

The poor here have cars, cell phones and TVs, and full bellies. They are warm and dry, and have access to really good - seriously, good - medical care though medicaid. They have free continuing education offered liberally through welfare and workfare programs.

In the light of that, the argument being made on this thread is rather pallid.

[Gefn]

I have a 76 Aspen and another 6 more payments to Chrysler Corp and it will be all mine!!!!

Is that a Pinto wagon? I thought for s moment it was the car from Chevy Chase’s movie “Vacation”

[berdie]

And that is dependent upon the definition of 'poverty'... According to the world standard, I have heard it said  (Probably Crowder) that 2% of the US population lives in true poverty. Enough to say it is there, but so small a number as to be within the margin of error.

The poor here have cars, cell phones and TVs, and full bellies. They are warm and dry, and have access to really good - seriously, good - medical care though medicaid. They have free continuing education offered liberally through welfare and workfare programs.

In the light of that, the argument being made on this thread is rather pallid.

And that is the truth. Our poor aren't poor by world standards.  There are resources available or they can move out of their situation.

[goodwithagun]

I have a 76 Aspen and another 6 more payments to Chrysler Corp and it will be all mine!!!!

The family truckster!

[Frank Cannon]

Is that a Pinto wagon? I thought for s moment it was the car from Chevy Chase’s movie “Vacation”

Madam. Please. This is no common Pinto or some "movie car". This is the Dodge Aspen. Rex Harrison sang about them they are so special....

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[sneakypete]

I’ll be buying a two year old suv in two years. I’m looking at the Toyota Sequoia, Lexus GX460, and Land Rover Discovery. Any suggestions?

@goodwithagun

Toyota. Lexux are too expensive and no more reliable,and Land Rovers are British. That should be all the warning you need on that one.

[sneakypete]

And that is the truth. Our poor aren't poor by world standards.  There are resources available or they can move out of their situation.

@berdie

It can accurately be stated that the poor 3rd worlders come here to fulfill their dream of becoming poor Americans.

[sneakypete]

Madam. Please. This is no common Pinto or some "movie car". This is the Dodge Aspen. Rex Harrison sang about them they are so special....

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@Frank Cannon

They WOULD have been great cars,but Satan released a demon of destruction loose on Chrysler that created the "Lean Burn" ignitions. Satan himself had to be sitting on the engineering board to approve that abortion. Suddenly cars with otherwise identical drivetrains that got 20+ mpg and never needed repairs,got 6 MPG and stayed at the dealership for repairs more than it did at the owners home. There has never been a bigger evil foisted on the automobile than that abortion. It damn near put Chrysler out of business.

[Frank Cannon]

@Frank Cannon

They WOULD have been great cars,but Satan released a demon of destruction loose on Chrysler that created the "Lean Burn" ignitions. Satan himself had to be sitting on the engineering board to approve that abortion. Suddenly cars with otherwise identical drivetrains that got 20+ mpg and never needed repairs,got 6 MPG and stayed at the dealership for repairs more than it did at the owners home. There has never been a bigger evil foisted on the automobile than that abortion. It damn near put Chrysler out of business.

We laugh at that shit because it set cars on fire, but Chrysler used that set up on all their cars until they got rid of throttle body FI sometimes in the 90's.

[Smokin Joe]

I can't complain about an AWD car that gets 31+ mpg.

A co worker had one and drove it to oil rigs. He loved it, and considered it a very capable vehicle.

[Smokin Joe]

@berdie

It can accurately be stated that the poor 3rd worlders come here to fulfill their dream of becoming poor Americans.

Yes! We have the fattest poor people in the world.

[mountaineer]

Yes! We have the fattest poor people in the world.

Of course, that's only because we force the poor to live in "food deserts" where there are no Whole Foods markets, just 7Elevens, so they have to live on potato chips and beer. Damn you, white privilege!   

[goodwithagun]

Of course, that's only because we force the poor to live in "food deserts" where there are no Whole Foods markets, just 7Elevens, so they have to live on potato chips and beer. Damn you, white privilege!   

Next time you get a hankerin’ to drive through Steubenville, notice all the wide swaths of sodded land surrounding our many HUD complexes . . . being mowed with taxpayer money instead of planted with food by the inhabitants.

[mountaineer]

Next time you get a hankerin’ to drive through Steubenville, notice all the wide swaths of sodded land surrounding our many HUD complexes . . . being mowed with taxpayer money instead of planted with food by the inhabitants.

Good point. Maybe the Urban Mission could get involved in an urban gardening effort?

[goodwithagun]

Good point. Maybe the Urban Mission could get involved in an urban gardening effort?

There is a community vegetable garden on the spot of where Wells Elementary was, across the street from the downtown fire station. A church group does it and it’s intended for anybody, even you and me, to take what is wanted. The welfare class doesn’t use it, though. Getting fresh vegetables means cooking, and that’s a step too far for them. If it’s not take and bake, deep fry, or open and serve, they don’t want it. What bleeding heart libs and their food desert pearl clutching fail to realize is that multigenerational welfare folk don’t want fresh food and ingredients; they want prepared food packed with artificial everything.