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this right here?
But I'm sure you, and everyone else here, has noticed that @Dexter hasn't responded to any of the tough issues I've brought up (or anyone else, for that matter).He just repeats his rehearsed talking points and ignores every issue that he feels like avoiding because it doesn't fit into his leftist government-makes-us-happy template.Lots of great points have been made here, but they've gone right over his head.
If you really want to go round and round with me for another 20 pages I can get around to it eventually. Other people will get pulled back in and this conversation will never end. As it stands I feel like both sides have pretty thoroughly laid out their concerns. I'm happy with it ending here. I'm not trying to ignore a bunch of your really critical points. I feel like other people have said similar stuff 10 times and that the conversation is done.
But you still haven’t directly addressed the key points of all the older and wiser conservatives here who have accurately countered your canned talking points with real world experience, and I doubt you ever will. Based on your arguments here, deep down you’re still a socialist.And socialism fails in the real world.
A lot of it really does just boil down to an impasse Musiclady. If my views didn't add up in my mind anymore I would be trying to figure out how to deal with that. I promise you I could go back and forth with you more on this, but you wouldn't be satisfied and neither would I. You're smart and incredibly stubborn. Disagreeing with you takes a lot of energy and sometimes frustration. That's why I skirted around some of your posts.
Facing reality and history that disagrees with your ideas is often difficult.
More likely you skirted around them because there is no depth in socialism and no answer to real issues in a utopian ideology that relies on government to provide personal comfort and happiness and eliminates responsibility and struggle in its quest for satisfaction.
Don't tell me it doesn't take energy and frustration to disagree with me too. I think I've added like 500 posts onto my total over the last handful of days.
It doesn't take much energy at all really to debunk your talking points.The facts to show you were wrong were quite easy for me to find and took little real effort.
Have you ever tried to disagree with an entire crowd of intelligent people all by yourself? Have you ever faced the collective knowledge and opinions of a group of people that have lived twice as long as you have? It's hard, and it takes a lot of energy, because people aren't as stupid as we sometimes want to believe they are. If this discussion was stacked in my favor as much as it is stacked in yours I might feel similarly.
And yet you learn nothing from that...
It's stacked in your favor because I am trying to disagree with an entire crowd of people by myself.
No, if it is stacked, it is because you are unwilling or unable to learn when confronted with new information. I expect that this is a fact of life for you and that you are unable to perceive the applied ignorance in which you swim.
You don't think it would change the dynamics of the debate at all if you by yourself were disagreeing with 20 different liberal academics?
As an aside, directly effecting and affecting you... Give that little golf cart to mamma for getting around the ranch, and go get you a pickup.It is important. You're out in the sticks now, with the rednecks. You can't show up at the Home Depot in that, or they'll laugh you out of the store, and give you the tourist discount to boot...Same with the bar, and down at the river...
And, good morning and a happy Tuesday to you, @Dexter.
Take your sunshine and lollipops somewhere else lady. I'm not having you ruin a perfectly good fight thread.
The first rule about fight threads is we don’t talk about the fight threads.
