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Re: Why Most of America Is Terrible at Making Biscuits
« Reply #50 on: November 28, 2018, 01:36:23 pm »
Some packages will say on them.  I went ahead and looked at the King Arthur website and their self rising flour is soft wheat.

Thanks, I'll read labels and website info from now on.

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« Reply #51 on: November 28, 2018, 03:42:18 pm »
Some packages will say on them.  I went ahead and looked at the King Arthur website and their self rising flour is soft wheat.

Good to know.

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Re: Why Most of America Is Terrible at Making Biscuits
« Reply #52 on: November 28, 2018, 04:01:07 pm »
Bow bow bow...
Ummm... the other day I had a ricochet biscuit. A ricochet biscuit is the
kind of a biscuit that's supposed to bounce back off the wall into your
mouth. If it don't bounce back, hee hee hee, ... you go hungry!
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« Reply #53 on: November 28, 2018, 07:45:01 pm »
Milk is fine for me because I don't like a fluffy biscuit. I want it flat and hard so I can toast it and put gravy on it. Bisquick makes a decent biscuit when you are on the road.
Any gravy is made better by adding a little tomato to it. Fresh or crushed works. Not too much. Enough where people will say "If I didn't know better, I'd say that someone added a little tomato to this gooood gravy".  :thud: It's especially good with chicken milk gravy. It's better than sex and not half as messy,

My Mother did that - adding a little tomato to the gravy.  She also made tomato gravy.  Another thing, along with shortbread and cornbread and buttermilk, that I get a craving for.
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Re: Why Most of America Is Terrible at Making Biscuits
« Reply #54 on: November 28, 2018, 07:47:56 pm »
My Mother did that - adding a little tomato to the gravy.  She also made tomato gravy.  Another thing, along with shortbread and cornbread and buttermilk, that I get a craving for.

For me, it's coffee. Even in the gravy for a beef roast, drop a half a cup of coffee into the pan to deglaze. It adds a wonderful deep tone to gravy, not to mention color.

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« Reply #55 on: December 02, 2018, 08:43:33 pm »
I'm confused about the adding of tomato to cream gravy.  What is the form of the tomato that is added?

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Re: Why Most of America Is Terrible at Making Biscuits
« Reply #56 on: December 02, 2018, 10:16:51 pm »
Catsup.
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« Reply #58 on: December 02, 2018, 10:28:07 pm »
No way.

That does not have enough emphasis.
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Re: Why Most of America Is Terrible at Making Biscuits
« Reply #59 on: December 02, 2018, 10:39:00 pm »
 :laugh:
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Re: Why Most of America Is Terrible at Making Biscuits
« Reply #60 on: December 02, 2018, 10:49:16 pm »
:laugh:

You're kidding, right?  Nobody (except maybe my SIL from Kentucky) puts ketchup in cream gravy?

And, I don't know that she does.  Since she doesn't cook, probably not.

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Re: Why Most of America Is Terrible at Making Biscuits
« Reply #61 on: December 02, 2018, 10:56:20 pm »
You're kidding, right?  Nobody (except maybe my SIL from Kentucky) puts ketchup in cream gravy?

And, I don't know that she does.  Since she doesn't cook, probably not.

I have two uses for Catsup:  Fries and Bologna sammiches.
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Re: Why Most of America Is Terrible at Making Biscuits
« Reply #62 on: December 02, 2018, 11:09:28 pm »
I have two uses for Catsup:  Fries and Bologna sammiches.

OMG I think I'm going to throw up.

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« Reply #63 on: December 02, 2018, 11:16:05 pm »
I have two uses for Catsup:  Fries and Bologna sammiches.

No, no, NO!

Crappy white bread
Butter
Then Baloney.
Then crappy American cheese.
Then dill pickle slices
Then mayo on the top bread.

Requires potato chips. or maybe cheetos.

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« Reply #64 on: December 03, 2018, 12:48:26 am »
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« Reply #65 on: December 03, 2018, 01:49:25 am »
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Re: Why Most of America Is Terrible at Making Biscuits
« Reply #66 on: December 03, 2018, 02:02:41 am »
I have two uses for Catsup:  Fries and Bologna sammiches.

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Re: Why Most of America Is Terrible at Making Biscuits
« Reply #67 on: December 03, 2018, 09:14:31 am »
Frat house rules.

Sometimes I bend the rules and put some in Beef Stroganoff.  rrthree
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Re: Why Most of America Is Terrible at Making Biscuits
« Reply #68 on: December 03, 2018, 09:28:59 am »
Sometimes I bend the rules and put some in Beef Stroganoff.  rrthree

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Re: Why Most of America Is Terrible at Making Biscuits
« Reply #69 on: December 03, 2018, 09:38:57 am »
Only TBR would have a 3 page long dialog about a bland bread so substandard you can't even make a decent sandwich from it.

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« Reply #70 on: December 03, 2018, 10:01:57 am »
Only TBR would have a 3 page long dialog about a bland bread so substandard you can't even make a decent sandwich from it.

Sausage, egg, cheese.... Sorry pal... Maybe if you'da posted that after noon...  :shrug:
Nah. then it's ChicknBiscuit (see Roos, I know how to say it). Maybe around suppertime...  :shrug:

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Re: Why Most of America Is Terrible at Making Biscuits
« Reply #71 on: December 03, 2018, 12:03:40 pm »
Catsup.

No.  Not how my Mom did it.  A little tomato paste or some tomato juice.  She froze tomato paste in ice cube trays.

For tomato gravy, butter, flour milk and smashed up tomatoes.  A little soy sauce or  Gravy Master or something like that.
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« Reply #72 on: December 03, 2018, 01:34:05 pm »
No.  Not how my Mom did it.  A little tomato paste or some tomato juice.  She froze tomato paste in ice cube trays.

For tomato gravy, butter, flour milk and smashed up tomatoes.  A little soy sauce or  Gravy Master or something like that.

Grandpa was from SE Georgia and ate tomato gravy on his grits, but no thank you.

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« Reply #73 on: December 03, 2018, 01:35:53 pm »
Only TBR would have a 3 page long dialog about a bland bread so substandard you can't even make a decent sandwich from it.

You only think it's substandard bread because you're using nasty northern flour to make em.

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« Reply #74 on: December 03, 2018, 01:51:54 pm »
My brother nixed expanding his pizza & sub business out of Western New York and into the Washington, DC region because of the PH quality of the local water.

He claims there's no way to duplicate the pizza crust using DC water.   :shrug:

I'm wondering if it affects the biscuits too!   :laugh:
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« Reply #75 on: December 03, 2018, 02:03:16 pm »
My brother nixed expanding his pizza & sub business out of Western New York and into the Washington, DC region because of the PH quality of the local water.

He claims there's no way to duplicate the pizza crust using DC water.   :shrug:

I'm wondering if it affects the biscuits too!   :laugh:

LOL  That sounds like a bunch of nonsense. 

Buffalo pH = 7.7
DC pH = 7.63

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« Reply #76 on: December 03, 2018, 02:07:58 pm »
LOL  That sounds like a bunch of nonsense. 

Buffalo pH = 7.7
DC pH = 7.63

DC's blood C2H5OH = 100%

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« Reply #77 on: December 03, 2018, 02:13:00 pm »
I make outstanding biscuits. Really, really fabulous biscuits. Now I have to read the rest of this thread and find out what I'm doing right.
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« Reply #78 on: December 03, 2018, 02:13:12 pm »
LOL  That sounds like a bunch of nonsense. 

Buffalo pH = 7.7
DC pH = 7.63

There's a pizza place in downtown Tampa that supposedly imports water from NYC(!) because they couldn't get the crust the way they wanted it with local water.

I do rather doubt that it's a question of pH, since I'm reasonable sure that's something you can adjust.
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« Reply #79 on: December 03, 2018, 02:15:05 pm »
There's a pizza place in downtown Tampa that supposedly imports water from NYC(!) because they couldn't get the crust the way they wanted it with local water.

I do rather doubt that it's a question of pH, since I'm reasonable sure that's something you can adjust.

I have no doubt that it tastes different.

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« Reply #80 on: December 03, 2018, 02:15:49 pm »
I make outstanding biscuits. Really, really fabulous biscuits. Now I have to read the rest of this thread and find out what I'm doing right.

You're either using the right flour -or- you're importing your water from New York.   :laugh:

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Re: Why Most of America Is Terrible at Making Biscuits
« Reply #81 on: December 03, 2018, 02:28:44 pm »
You're either using the right flour -or- you're importing your water from New York.   :laugh:

I'll bet she uses Catsup, only she spells it the correct way, "Ketchup."
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« Reply #82 on: December 03, 2018, 02:36:03 pm »
I'll bet she uses Catsup, only she spells it the correct way, "Ketchup."

Actually, I don't believe they should be regarded as two different spellings of the same word.  As I understand it, when enough people began mispronouncing catsup, a related but completely new word came into being--i.e., became officially recognized.

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« Reply #83 on: December 03, 2018, 02:59:55 pm »
Actually, I don't believe they should be regarded as two different spellings of the same word.  As I understand it, when enough people began mispronouncing catsup, a related but completely new word came into being--i.e., became officially recognized.

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« Reply #84 on: December 03, 2018, 03:03:07 pm »
I think good biscuits are a thing of rich, white male privilege and should be made available to the oppressed for free.
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« Reply #85 on: December 03, 2018, 03:37:28 pm »
Catsup and ketchup are two different, but related, things.  I think it has something to do with the percent water content, but I could be rememberi g that wrong.

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« Reply #86 on: December 03, 2018, 03:41:06 pm »
Catsup and ketchup are two different, but related, things.  I think it has something to do with the percent water content, but I could be rememberi g that wrong.

WTF? That is the biggest load of horseshit I have ever seen someone shovel on this forum.

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« Reply #87 on: December 03, 2018, 03:46:22 pm »
WTF? That is the biggest load of horseshit I have ever seen someone shovel on this forum.

Listen here, I read about this in the same book where I learned about the first pecan grove in Georgia.  Take it up with the author, but it seemed very well resewrched to me.

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« Reply #88 on: December 03, 2018, 03:49:41 pm »
Listen here, I read about this in the same book where I learned about the first pecan grove in Georgia.  Take it up with the author, but it seemed very well resewrched to me.

Did the article also go into how "color" and "colour" are two different things because on has more shades or something like that?

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« Reply #89 on: December 03, 2018, 03:50:20 pm »
Language evolves. If something in language is so obscure that almost nobody knows about it then it's not actually a rule.

Right.  A huge number of new words have been officially recognized in mainstream dictionaries in my lifetime.  The tallies are actually stunning.

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« Reply #90 on: December 03, 2018, 03:51:35 pm »
LOL  That sounds like a bunch of nonsense. 

Buffalo pH = 7.7
DC pH = 7.63

"Quality" and "Levels" are two different words, @RoosGirl

I don't think it's so much alkaline vs acidic, but rather the hard mineral content.

Anyways, Buffalo is the junk food capital of the Western World.  Buffalo pizza is like no other.

http://bocceclubpizza.com/

And the birth of "Chicken Wings"     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchor_Bar


I've wondered why Ted's a local family chain of hotdog burger shakes didn't expand.  The Founder retired to Arizona  After months of idleness, he opened a location there in his 'new' State.

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« Reply #91 on: December 03, 2018, 03:58:27 pm »
"Quality" and "Levels" are two different words, @RoosGirl

I don't think it's so much alkaline vs acidic, but rather the hard mineral content.

Anyways, Buffalo is the junk food capital of the Western World.  Buffalo pizza is like no other.

http://bocceclubpizza.com/

And the birth of "Chicken Wings"     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anchor_Bar


I've wondered why Ted's a local family chain of hotdog burger shakes didn't expand.  The Founder retired to Arizona  After months of idleness, he opened a location there in his 'new' State.

http://www.tedshotdogs.com/

It's the minerals in the water, and it's also the strain of yeast that likes to grow in NYC.  San Francisco sourdough is popular because the yeast is one of a kind there.

Added:  Ted's Hot Dogs have had the AZ location since I first moved here in 1980.  Been there a few times, they are good dogs.
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« Reply #92 on: December 03, 2018, 04:02:19 pm »
It's the minerals in the water, and it's also the strain of yeast that likes to grow in NYC.  San Francisco sourdough is popular because the yeast is one of a kind there.

Remember though....Buffalo is an 8 hr drive from NYC.  It's on the shores of Lake Erie.

I've had NYC pizza in a few of the Boroughs.  Still can't touch Buffalo's.   

But you may be right about the yeast or the humidity which affects it.
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« Reply #93 on: December 03, 2018, 04:05:05 pm »
It's the minerals in the water, and it's also the strain of yeast that likes to grow in NYC.  San Francisco sourdough is popular because the yeast is one of a kind there.

Added:  Ted's Hot Dogs have had the AZ location since I first moved here in 1980.  Been there a few times, they are good dogs.

Yep!  Sahlen's brand.   Wegman's sells them.   Smokehouse hotdogs....NOT 'wieners'   (they sell both)  http://www.facebook.com/sahlens/

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« Reply #94 on: December 03, 2018, 04:06:38 pm »
Anybody that can figure out how to bring the Ted's Hot Dog concept to D.C. will become a Gazillionaire.   
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« Reply #95 on: December 03, 2018, 04:24:30 pm »
You're either using the right flour -or- you're importing your water from New York.   :laugh:
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« Reply #96 on: December 03, 2018, 04:46:57 pm »
Catsup and ketchup are two different, but related, things.  I think it has something to do with the percent water content, but I could be rememberi g that wrong.

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What is the Difference Between Catsup and Ketchup?

Catsup and Ketchup are two different spellings of the same condiment, which, today, is a Westernized version of a condiment first introduced to European traders in the late 17th century.

During their time trading in the Far East, British sailors of the 1600s developed a taste for the delicious treat we now call ketchup and began exporting it to the West.

The word itself is thought to come from the Cantonese k’ē chap or the Malay kēhap, both of which refer to a kind of fish sauce. Ketchup was originally a paste made from fermented fish guts (yes, it’s come a long way).

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« Reply #97 on: December 03, 2018, 04:49:58 pm »
I have two uses for Catsup:  Fries and Bologna sammiches.

Only for Fries. I fry my Bologna for sammiches and use mustard.

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Re: Why Most of America Is Terrible at Making Biscuits
« Reply #98 on: December 03, 2018, 04:51:59 pm »
Only for Fries. I fry my Bologna for sammiches and use mustard.

I do the frying and mustard with my Spam, with extra-sharp Cheddar.
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Re: Why Most of America Is Terrible at Making Biscuits
« Reply #99 on: December 03, 2018, 04:57:34 pm »
My aunts down in TN and AL could make some amazing biscuits. My aunt Margie made ones my grandpa called 'cat head' biscuits because they were as big 'as a tom cat's head.'
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