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Re: Should prostitution be legal?
« Reply #50 on: November 21, 2018, 08:07:38 pm »
You want to use the law to impose your views on other free people?

No, it is you who is imposing.
If you want prostitution so bad, move to Nevada.
Or work to change the laws where you are.
Don't impose your immoral views upon me.

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Re: Should prostitution be legal?
« Reply #51 on: November 21, 2018, 08:12:29 pm »
No, it is you who is imposing

No, nobody is trying to force you to do anything in this instance. You want to decide what’s acceptable for other people. You want the government to force your view on others.
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Re: Should prostitution be legal?
« Reply #52 on: November 21, 2018, 08:15:43 pm »
No, nobody is trying to force you to do anything in this instance. You want to decide what’s acceptable for other people. You want the government to force your view on others.

That is called LAW. And it should be administered close to the people. As in state law and county ordinance. And that is just fine with me.

In a federalist system, you can go where it best suits you.
So move to Nevada and more power to you.
Leave me and mine alone.

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« Reply #53 on: November 21, 2018, 08:20:07 pm »
That is called LAW. And it should be administered close to the people. As in state law and county ordinance. And that is just fine with me.

In a federalist system, you can go where it best suits you.
So move to Nevada and more power to you.
Leave me and mine alone.

There are consenting adults where you live that want to engage in these behaviors. You want the government to tell them they can’t, and that if they do it anyway they can lose their freedom. You’re not consistent in principle. It’s okay to use the government to control people as long as you approve of how people are being controlled.
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Re: Should prostitution be legal?
« Reply #54 on: November 21, 2018, 08:28:00 pm »
There are consenting adults where you live that want to engage in these behaviors. You want the government to tell them they can’t, and that if they do it anyway they can lose their freedom. You’re not consistent in principle. It’s okay to use the government to control people as long as you approve of how people are being controlled.

I am absolutely consistent in principle. I am Conservative, and therefore a federalist. Law is fine with me... Local law. You are trying to shove your immorality down my throat from a statist position. Federal law.

Never content to let the various states work according to their design...
Like I said. You literally have no right to impose your sensibilities on me.
Do your thing where you are, and leave me the hell alone.

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Re: Should prostitution be legal?
« Reply #55 on: November 21, 2018, 08:28:05 pm »
So Fed Gov can create more regulations and governing bodies? No thanks.

I stand with Roosgirl.

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Re: Should prostitution be legal?
« Reply #56 on: November 21, 2018, 08:32:08 pm »
Yeah. :-(

Also you and Pete are both quality people. I bet you two could decide to resolve your differences. Pete may not like your God but I find it hard to believe that deep down he doesn’t know you’re a smart and principled lady. I bet you can sense something similar in him. That’s probably part of why you two have issues.

We can't resolve our differences because he hates the principles I live by and he hates the Savior whom I love.  I never say anything to him because it isn't worth the pain he tries to inflict on me (even when I say nothing at all).  He just despises who I am, and I can't do a blasted thing about that.

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Re: Should prostitution be legal?
« Reply #57 on: November 21, 2018, 08:35:13 pm »
Local law.

So you’re fine with local laws that restrict the liberty or other free people based on your preferences.
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Re: Should prostitution be legal?
« Reply #58 on: November 21, 2018, 08:37:44 pm »
So Fed Gov can create more regulations and governing bodies? No thanks.

The government is a better boss than pimps and sex traffickers.
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Re: Should prostitution be legal?
« Reply #59 on: November 21, 2018, 08:38:07 pm »
I am absolutely consistent in principle. I am Conservative, and therefore a federalist. Law is fine with me... Local law. You are trying to shove your immorality down my throat from a statist position. Federal law.

Never content to let the various states work according to their design...
Like I said. You literally have no right to impose your sensibilities on me.
Do your thing where you are, and leave me the hell alone.

Absolutely so.

These people have Nevada, we don't need this law where people don't vote for it or want it. There's community values too. There's still "We the people". 

Like John Adams said, the Constitution could be dangerous if the people were not moral AND religious.
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« Reply #60 on: November 21, 2018, 08:44:34 pm »
So you’re fine with local laws that restrict the liberty or other free people based on your preferences.

No, based on OUR preferences. Our local preferences. If I didn't like it here, I would move.

The problem is, your one-size-fits-all intention, dictated from 3000 miles away, means that it wouldn't matter where I move, unless out of the country.

That is why federal law was strictly bound by the constitution - To keep law local and let folks do as they see fit, except for a few well thought out guarantees that span the nation.

If we want the ten commandments in front of our courthouse, no gay marriage, no prostitution, no gun laws, no speed limits (which I guarantee we do), what the hell business is it of yours?

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Re: Should prostitution be legal?
« Reply #61 on: November 21, 2018, 08:46:16 pm »
The government is a better boss than pimps and sex traffickers.

Oh HELL no. All the way around.

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Re: Should prostitution be legal?
« Reply #62 on: November 21, 2018, 08:51:16 pm »
The government is a better boss than pimps and sex traffickers.

Umm, no.
I stand with Roosgirl.

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« Reply #63 on: November 21, 2018, 08:54:15 pm »
No, based on OUR preferences. Our local preferences. If I didn't like it here, I would move.

The problem is, your one-size-fits-all intention, dictated from 3000 miles away, means that it wouldn't matter where I move, unless out of the country.

That is why federal law was strictly bound by the constitution - To keep law local and let folks do as they see fit, except for a few well thought out guarantees that span the nation.

If we want the ten commandments in front of our courthouse, no gay marriage, no prostitution, no gun laws, no speed limits (which I guarantee we do), what the hell business is it of yours?

People don’t all have the same preferences anywhere. You’re okay with a majority using their majority to oppress a minority with the law. You want to restrict the liberty of other people based on your preferences. Money exchanged for sex between consenting adults is none of your business, but you want to make it your business anyway. Your views on this matter are authoritarian.
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Re: Should prostitution be legal?
« Reply #64 on: November 21, 2018, 08:57:31 pm »
Umm, no.

You don’t think the government would handle prostitution better than law breaking pimps and sex traffickers?
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« Reply #65 on: November 21, 2018, 09:05:19 pm »
People don’t all have the same preferences anywhere. You’re okay with a majority using their majority to oppress a minority with the law. You want to restrict the liberty of other people based on your preferences. Money exchanged for sex between consenting adults is none of your business, but you want to make it your business anyway. Your views on this matter are authoritarian.

Bullshit. My views on this are federalist. I am not telling you what to do. YOU are telling ME what to do. Butt the hell out of my business and worry about your own. If you don't like how it is where you are, then change it there, or move where it suits you better.

You are not advocating for an oppressed minority - you are advocating for the tyranny of the minority, which is a wholly different thing.

If literally everyone is for prayer in school, and one atheist objects, according to you, the atheist's tyranny can be imposed upon all the rest. From 3000 miles away.

Bullshit. Pure and simple. If the atheist doesn't like it, then the atheist is free to move elsewhere.

Prostitution is the same sort of thing.
If your sensibilities endorse the degradation of women then go where such a thing is acceptable, don't impose your bullshit on me.

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Re: Should prostitution be legal?
« Reply #66 on: November 21, 2018, 09:06:16 pm »
You don’t think the government would handle prostitution better than law breaking pimps and sex traffickers?

Government doesn't handle anything better, ever.

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Re: Should prostitution be legal?
« Reply #67 on: November 21, 2018, 09:13:03 pm »
You don’t think the government would handle prostitution better than law breaking pimps and sex traffickers?

They are the government. They ARE NOT here to help. Prostitutes and pimps don’t pay taxes now; what makes you think they’re going to willingly pay taxes because prostitution is legalized, regulated, and taxed? Also, sex trafficking is a multi billion dollar and international problem. US gov legalizing prostitution has nothing to do with sex trafficking.
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« Reply #68 on: November 21, 2018, 09:14:33 pm »
Bullshit. My views on this are federalist. I am not telling you what to do. YOU are telling ME what to do. Butt the hell out of my business and worry about your own. If you don't like how it is where you are, then change it there, or move where it suits you better.

You are not advocating for an oppressed minority - you are advocating for the tyranny of the minority, which is a wholly different thing.

If literally everyone is for prayer in school, and one atheist objects, according to you, the atheist's tyranny can be imposed upon all the rest. From 3000 miles away.

Bullshit. Pure and simple. If the atheist doesn't like it, then the atheist is free to move elsewhere.

Prostitution is the same sort of thing.
If your sensibilities endorse the degradation of women then go where such a thing is acceptable, don't impose your bullshit on me.

Grown people having sex for money imposes nothing on you. The imposition is yours. You really think your example is equivalent? Also “Deal with what the majority wants or get bent.” doesn’t sound very libertarian to me, especially when the thing doesn’t involve you. Views like that delegitimize the conservative message because they’re hypocritical.
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« Reply #69 on: November 21, 2018, 09:18:34 pm »
They are the government. They ARE NOT here to help. Prostitutes and pimps don’t pay taxes now; what makes you think they’re going to willingly pay taxes because prostitution is legalized, regulated, and taxed? Also, sex trafficking is a multi billion dollar and international problem. US gov legalizing prostitution has nothing to do with sex trafficking.

You take business from the black market when you legalize. That mitigates some of the worst of it. There would be less victims all around if it was legalized.
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Re: Should prostitution be legal?
« Reply #70 on: November 21, 2018, 09:18:46 pm »
Grown people having sex for money imposes nothing on you.

Actually, it does.  It imposes a moral statement on society that can be detrimental to that society.  The people of a society have the right to come together and determine through their legislators the moral code under which they will live under.  And if they choose to legalize prostitution, then so be it.  And if they choose for prostitution to remain illegal, then that is their right.
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« Reply #71 on: November 21, 2018, 09:21:31 pm »
The people of a society have the right to come together and determine through their legislators the moral code under which they will live under.

I look forward to using this against you in future debates.
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« Reply #72 on: November 21, 2018, 09:26:27 pm »
You take business from the black market when you legalize. That mitigates some of the worst of it. There would be less victims all around if it was legalized.

Okay, pay attention here: There will always be a black market when gov regulations and taxes are involved.

They 👏 will 👏 not 👏 pay 👏 taxes 👏
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« Reply #73 on: November 21, 2018, 09:29:18 pm »
Okay, pay attention here: There will always be a black market when gov regulations and taxes are involved.

They 👏 will 👏 not 👏 pay 👏 taxes 👏

The legal businesses that open up and take over the demand for prostitution will pay taxes.
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« Reply #74 on: November 21, 2018, 09:31:59 pm »
Grown people having sex for money imposes nothing on you. The imposition is yours.

That is not true. It degrades culture and degrades women. I have grandchildren here.

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You really think your example is equivalent? Also “Deal with what the majority wants or get bent.” doesn’t sound very libertarian to me, especially when the thing doesn’t involve you. Views like that delegitimize the conservative message because they’re hypocritical.

Bullshit sommore. Libertarianism is directly couched in federalism. Civil-libertarianism (Goldwater conservative) is not against law. It is *FOR* law and order. It prefers local law to all others. within the strict confines of an originalist reading of the Constitution, and the constitutions of the various states respectively, with sovereignty housed as close to the people as possible.

What you propose stinks of liberal anarchism, not to be confused with libertarian principles in the least.

Your first mistake is in the abject failure to recognize what prostitution does to a community - To the degradation of women's honor. What it does to promote adultery and divorce, and how it tears families to pieces. To sanction prostitution is to lend it credence - to favor it over the welfare of families and a decent environment to raise children. It endorses broken homes.

Your second mistake is to lend even more power to an overweening federal government, wishing for a federal decree to enforce your ludicrous proposal - No libertarian of any stripe would endorse that.

If you want to try it, then go where it is already legal, or change it where you are. You have zero right to impose it upon me and mine by federal fiat.

And don't try to wrap yourself in libertarianism anymore. It makes your ass look big.


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Re: Should prostitution be legal?
« Reply #75 on: November 21, 2018, 09:36:49 pm »
You don’t think the government would handle prostitution better than law breaking pimps and sex traffickers?

No, the government wouldn't.

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« Reply #76 on: November 21, 2018, 09:38:23 pm »
I look forward to using this against you in future debates.

Please do.  I use it all the time.  But I have serious doubts that you believe likewise.
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« Reply #77 on: November 21, 2018, 09:41:27 pm »
That is not true. It degrades culture and degrades women. I have grandchildren here.

Bullshit sommore. Libertarianism is directly couched in federalism. Civil-libertarianism (Goldwater conservative) is not against law. It is *FOR* law and order. It prefers local law to all others. within the strict confines of an originalist reading of the Constitution, and the constitutions of the various states respectively, with sovereignty housed as close to the people as possible.

What you propose stinks of liberal anarchism, not to be confused with libertarian principles in the least.

Your first mistake is in the abject failure to recognize what prostitution does to a community - To the degradation of women's honor. What it does to promote adultery and divorce, and how it tears families to pieces. To sanction prostitution is to lend it credence - to favor it over the welfare of families and a decent environment to raise children. It endorses broken homes.

Your second mistake is to lend even more power to an overweening federal government, wishing for a federal decree to enforce your ludicrous proposal - No libertarian of any stripe would endorse that.

If you want to try it, then go where it is already legal, or change it where you are. You have zero right to impose it upon me and mine by federal fiat.

And don't try to wrap yourself in libertarianism anymore. It makes your ass look big.

People are going to engage in prostitution either way. Legalization would mean less victims, less STDs, less all of the bad stuff. Your way is futile and illogical. It’s a waste of police resources and it restricts individual liberty. I’d be fine with state legalization by the way, but you’d fight against that too. This is a conversation about the viability of legal prostitution. You think prostitution should stay illegal and I disagree with you.
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« Reply #78 on: November 21, 2018, 09:42:05 pm »
The legal businesses that open up and take over the demand for prostitution will pay taxes.

And women who are collecting unemployment will be expected to take legal prostitution jobs lest they lose their benefits.
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« Reply #79 on: November 21, 2018, 09:43:50 pm »
People are going to engage in prostitution either way. Legalization would mean less victims, less STDs, less all of the bad stuff. Your way is futile and illogical. It’s a waste of police resources and it restricts individual liberty. I’d be fine with state legalization by the way, but you’d fight against that too. This is a conversation about the viability of legal prostitution. You think prostitution should stay illegal and I disagree with you.

Shouldn't it be up to each State to determine whether prostitution is legal or not?
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« Reply #80 on: November 21, 2018, 09:44:41 pm »
I look forward to using this against you in future debates.

You'd do better to listen to him. He's as libertarian as they come.

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« Reply #81 on: November 21, 2018, 09:45:20 pm »
And women who are collecting unemployment will be expected to take legal prostitution jobs lest they lose their benefits.

They don’t have to apply for those jobs if they don’t want them. Those jobs wouldn’t have existed without legalized prostitution anyway. They can apply to other jobs and meet their quota. Maintaining unemployment benefits is absurdly easy.
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« Reply #82 on: November 21, 2018, 09:45:58 pm »
He's as libertarian as they come.

I disagree.
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Re: Should prostitution be legal?
« Reply #83 on: November 21, 2018, 09:48:46 pm »
No, it is an activity that no one should participate in.

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Maybe,but you don't get to make the rules for other adults.
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« Reply #84 on: November 21, 2018, 09:50:15 pm »
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Maybe,but you don't get to make the rules for other adults.

He disagrees. Consenting adults shouldn’t be allowed to engage in prostitution and that doesn’t conflict with libertarianism apparently.
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« Reply #85 on: November 21, 2018, 09:51:51 pm »
I am absolutely consistent in principle. I am Conservative, and therefore a federalist. Law is fine with me... Local law. You are trying to shove your immorality down my throat from a statist position. Federal law.

Never content to let the various states work according to their design...
Like I said. You literally have no right to impose your sensibilities on me.
Do your thing where you are, and leave me the hell alone.

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Are you somehow so confused you think that if prostitution is made legal in your state you will be required to participate?
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« Reply #86 on: November 21, 2018, 09:55:30 pm »
Bullshit. My views on this are federalist. I am not telling you what to do. YOU are telling ME what to do. Butt the hell out of my business and worry about your own. If you don't like how it is where you are, then change it there, or move where it suits you better.

You are not advocating for an oppressed minority - you are advocating for the tyranny of the minority, which is a wholly different thing.

If literally everyone is for prayer in school, and one atheist objects, according to you, the atheist's tyranny can be imposed upon all the rest. From 3000 miles away.

Bullshit. Pure and simple. If the atheist doesn't like it, then the atheist is free to move elsewhere.

Prostitution is the same sort of thing.
If your sensibilities endorse the degradation of women then go where such a thing is acceptable, don't impose your bullshit on me.

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You have it 100 percent backwards. YOU are guilty of everything you charge Dexter with when it comes to the power of government to legislate morality.
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« Reply #87 on: November 21, 2018, 09:56:14 pm »
People are going to engage in prostitution either way.

I know. Making it 'legal', like 'gay marriage', only serves to legitimize it.

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Legalization would mean less victims, less STDs, less all of the bad stuff.

A bold statement without proof.

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Your way is futile and illogical.

I would say the same, the other way around.

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It’s a waste of police resources

Another unproven statement. There will still be unlicensed whores. And Johns that will use them.

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and it restricts individual liberty.

No.
Liberty has responsibilities.
What you are thinking of is freedom.
Freedom has consequences.

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I’d be fine with state legalization by the way, but you’d fight against that too.

Sure I would, as is my right and my wont. The point being that it is already legal in a state. Go there and be happy.

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This is a conversation about the viability of legal prostitution. You think prostitution should stay illegal and I disagree with you.

All you have to do is look to Vegas, and how well the Chicken Ranch was managed by your dear federal government. Those two things should tell you the tale.

And you are quite within your right to disagree with me. Where your right ends is in your imposition upon me.

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« Reply #88 on: November 21, 2018, 09:58:45 pm »
Shouldn't it be up to each State to determine whether prostitution is legal or not?

Sure, but that isn’t the debate. It’s a deflection. We’re debating the merits of legalized prostitution and whether or not keeping it illegal infringes on individual liberty.
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« Reply #89 on: November 21, 2018, 09:58:53 pm »
And women who are collecting unemployment will be expected to take legal prostitution jobs lest they lose their benefits.

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Now THERE is an argument I have never heard before.
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« Reply #90 on: November 21, 2018, 09:59:21 pm »
I disagree.

Disagree all you like, he has the mileage in this forum to prove it. You do not.

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Re: Should prostitution be legal?
« Reply #91 on: November 21, 2018, 10:00:21 pm »
I know. Making it 'legal', like 'gay marriage', only serves to legitimize it.

A bold statement without proof.

I would say the same, the other way around.

Another unproven statement. There will still be unlicensed whores. And Johns that will use them.

No.
Liberty has responsibilities.
What you are thinking of is freedom.
Freedom has consequences.

Sure I would, as is my right and my wont. The point being that it is already legal in a state. Go there and be happy.

All you have to do is look to Vegas, and how well the Chicken Ranch was managed by your dear federal government. Those two things should tell you the tale.

And you are quite within your right to disagree with me. Where your right ends is in your imposition upon me.

Oh, well I believe in liberty and freedom.
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« Reply #92 on: November 21, 2018, 10:01:20 pm »
@roamer_1

Maybe,but you don't get to make the rules for other adults.

Sure I do. Adults make rules for other adults all the damn time.

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« Reply #93 on: November 21, 2018, 10:02:22 pm »
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Are you somehow so confused you think that if prostitution is made legal in your state you will be required to participate?

No

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« Reply #95 on: November 21, 2018, 10:04:22 pm »
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You have it 100 percent backwards. YOU are guilty of everything you charge Dexter with when it comes to the power of government to legislate morality.

Absolutely wrong.
He is advocating federal imposition by dictate.
I am advocating local dictate by representatives who live here.

Both are legislating morality.

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« Reply #96 on: November 21, 2018, 10:06:13 pm »
Oh, well I believe in liberty and freedom.

Do you believe that the people of each State through their elected representatives should have the liberty to decide whether or not prostitution should be legal in their State?
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« Reply #97 on: November 21, 2018, 10:06:16 pm »
Oh, well I believe in liberty and freedom.

Never the two shall meet.

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« Reply #98 on: November 21, 2018, 10:08:51 pm »
They actually do this in Germany.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/germany/1482371/If-you-dont-take-a-job-as-a-prostitute-we-can-stop-your-benefits.html


An isolated incident in another country, and the article says it’s unclear if the unnamed woman lost her benefits. I’d say there is a pretty good chance she didn’t. I also think Germany would be interested in fixing an oversight like that. This is not an argument. Women would not be forced into the sex industry by the government.
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Re: Should prostitution be legal?
« Reply #99 on: November 21, 2018, 10:10:15 pm »
Sure I do. Adults make rules for other adults all the damn time.

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OK,fair enough. I am going to make a rule that REQUIRES YOU to engage prostitutes.

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