Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology

[sneakypete]

Topic: Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology  (Read 606 times)

Two pages of replies,and I have to state the obvious?

WAKE UP,PEOPLE! Witchcraft IS a religion!

[DCPatriot]

I always answer that with "Yield Right of Way".

Mine is "Slippery when wet".

[dfwgator]

Because they're morons.

[DCPatriot]

Why millennials are ditching religion for witchcraft and astrology

Because they are much less likely to be molested by a Ouija Board than if they took a trip to their local Catholic church.

That's just mean, Frank!     

[Free Vulcan]

Two ouija board stories:

1. Buddy of mine from High School and I roomed in the dorms first year of college. He went down the hall to join some people playing with the oujia board. He said they did the routine, and something came on who's name was 'AB' and it would keep repeating those two letters over and over. They didn't get much answers out of it, mostly just that autistic like repetition.

They were about to wind down when something else took over and spelled out: 'I AM AN ANGEL OF THE LORD. BURN THE BOARD NOW.' That's when he hiked out of there back to the room and told me the story immediately after.

2. Another buddy of mine years later who was a practicing Christian walked in on some younger friends or relatives playing with the board. He told them not to mess with that stuff and knock it off. After they left the room he put his hand on the board and said 'WHO ARE YOU?!?!'. He did that several times, and all the board would spell is 'F*** YOU!'. He finally told whatever it was to take a hike and get out of there, and that was the end of that.

And that is why I don't mess with those things.

[mirraflake]

Two ouija board stories:

1. Buddy of mine from High School and I roomed in the dorms first year of college. He went down the hall to join some people playing with the oujia board. He said they did the routine, and something came on who's name was 'AB' and it would keep repeating those two letters over and over. They didn't get much answers out of it, mostly just that autistic like repetition.

They were about to wind down when something else took over and spelled out: 'I AM AN ANGEL OF THE LORD. BURN THE BOARD NOW.' That's when he hiked out of there back to the room and told me the story immediately after.

2. Another buddy of mine years later who was a practicing Christian walked in on some younger friends or relatives playing with the board. He told them not to mess with that stuff and knock it off. After they left the room he put his hand on the board and said 'WHO ARE YOU?!?!'. He did that several times, and all the board would spell is 'F*** YOU!'. He finally told whatever it was to take a hike and get out of there, and that was the end of that.

And that is why I don't mess with those things.

It is  $5.00 board game mass produced out of carboard and plastic. ..that is all it is.  No hokus pokus or other devily things.

@Free Vulcan

[Free Vulcan]

It is  $5.00 board game mass produced out of carboard and plastic. ..that is all it is.  No hokus pokus or other devily things.

@Free Vulcan

String theory predicts 10 dimensions, 6 beyond the normal space-time.

Science fiction poses theories of more powerful beings from other dimensionals all the time, and people are like 'Yeah, yeah, I can see that.'

It's very possible there could be dimensions behind this one that we don't see, with more powerful beings than ourselves. I've seen and heard too much to rule out the possibility.

[Dexter]

It's very possible there could be dimensions behind this one that we don't see, with more powerful beings than ourselves.

Yeah, but what are the odds you can contact them with a plastic game board?

[mirraflake]

String theory predicts 10 dimensions, 6 beyond the normal space-time.

Science fiction poses theories of more powerful beings from other dimensionals all the time, and people are like 'Yeah, yeah, I can see that.'

It's very possible there could be dimensions behind this one that we don't see, with more powerful beings than ourselves. I've seen and heard too much to rule out the possibility.

It's human hands pushing the object to subconsciously spell out what the person really wants to read.

@Free Vulcan

[Free Vulcan]

It's human hands pushing the object to subconsciously spell out what the person really wants to read.

@Free Vulcan

I've not found that theory to be consistent with stories I've heard/read. It's actually more voodoo to believe that.

[mirraflake]

I've not found that theory to be consistent with stories I've heard/read. It's actually more voodoo to believe that.

If Ouji boards was really a portal to the underworld the gov't would cease parker Bros to stop making them and all the current ones would be placed in the giant cavern next to the Ark of The Covenant in Raiders Ark.

@Free Vulcan

[Silver Pines]

Yeah, but what are the odds you can contact them with a plastic game board?

@Dexter

Why not?

Look, I get that a lot of people don't believe in evil nowadays, and by that I mean spiritual evil as described Biblically.  Even some Christians dismiss it. 

But if you believe that those particular forces/entities exist, and that they're looking to mislead human beings, the type of people who use Ouija boards are ripe.

Of course it isn't the piece of plastic that makes it possible; that's stupid.  It's the mindset of the people who are curious about things they should leave alone. 

[Free Vulcan]

If Ouji boards was really a portal to the underworld the gov't would cease parker Bros to stop making them and all the current ones would be placed in the giant cavern next to the Ark of The Covenant in Raiders Ark.

@Free Vulcan

I'm not sure many in govt believe in the underworld (they don't like things that compete with the State or Gaia) so I don't see them stepping up anytime soon.

[Dexter]

@Dexter

Why not?

Look, I get that a lot of people don't believe in evil nowadays, and by that I mean spiritual evil as described Biblically.  Even some Christians dismiss it. 

But if you believe that those particular forces/entities exist, and that they're looking to mislead human beings, the type of people who use Ouija boards are ripe.

Of course it isn't the piece of plastic that makes it possible; that's stupid.  It's the mindset of the people who are curious about things they should leave alone.

I guess. You'd find it just as possible to have a connection to those forces through some kind of ritual or whatever? Pentagram on the ground etc? I'm not being a jerk. If it's possible to contact otherworldly forces then what you're suggesting here is the most likely. It'd be your openness and willingness to be touched by those forces that would attract them, not a game board.

[Free Vulcan]

I guess. You'd find it just as possible to have a connection to those forces through some kind of ritual or whatever? Pentagram on the ground etc? I'm not being a jerk. If it's possible to contact otherworldly forces then what you're suggesting here is the most likely. It'd be your openness and willingness to be touched by those forces that would attract them, not a game board.

Actually oujia boards are mild in that regard. I've read of full blown seances where it really gets out there.

From the gist of what you can glean from the Bible at least, that world is right behind ours. They can see us, we can't see them. It seems to take more work to keep them out than to invite them in.

[Silver Pines]

I guess. You'd find it just as possible to have a connection to those forces through some kind of ritual or whatever? Pentagram on the ground etc? I'm not being a jerk. If it's possible to contact otherworldly forces then what you're suggesting here is the most likely. It'd be your openness and willingness to be touched by those forces that would attract them, not a game board.

@Dexter

I know you're not being a jerk.  Yes, people mess around and get in trouble with the occult in all kinds of ways.

[Silver Pines]

If Ouji boards was really a portal to the underworld the gov't would cease parker Bros to stop making them and all the current ones would be placed in the giant cavern next to the Ark of The Covenant in Raiders Ark.

@Free Vulcan

@mirraflake

You mean the government that recognizes Wiccans and pagans in the military, and in one state allowed a statue of Satan to be temporarily erected on the grounds of the capitol?  This isn't a theocracy.  They wouldn't care if they even believed it, and the majority of them don't.

[roamer_1]

I guess. You'd find it just as possible to have a connection to those forces through some kind of ritual or whatever? Pentagram on the ground etc? I'm not being a jerk.

Yes - There are rituals, and they are effective.

If it's possible to contact otherworldly forces then what you're suggesting here is the most likely. It'd be your openness and willingness to be touched by those forces that would attract them, not a game board.

Not exactly true. Yes it is a matter of will. But there is no doubt that objects can be demonically charged too. Ouija is a simple means, with a simple ritual... Think of it in the same way as an English primer book for children.

[GtHawk]

Do you know part of the reason Millennials get so much hate? Stuff like this:

Have you ever heard of the 70's? Or the 90's? This is the third time recycled for this crap, yet Millennials think it is all so funky superfly new and cool while they lionize themselves over their supposed open mindedness. It's bad enough to sell the BS, worse to believe it.

But I will say I don't see this in the Midwest. The 80's seem to rule more here and the hippy-witchy stuff is out, thank goodness.

Oh, yeah it's so modern and mainline .................again! I remember my mother taking classes in astrology in the early 70's but she never once considered it as any sort of religion, and all you have to do is look back at old movies to see astrology and spiritualism displayed to know it was common back in the 30's and 40's. Now I haven't really traveled hardly anywhere, but where I have in the U.S. there has invariably been at least one place place advertising astrology/spiritualism/numerology  because there are always suckers with money. Hell anyone that ever watched Dragnet learned that these are multi state scams! As for witchcraft, there have always been followers, there will always be people looking for a way to get something without actually earning it.

[GtHawk]

Yeah, but what are the odds you can contact them with a plastic game board?

About the same as getting something useful from astrology or crystals, or spiritualism.

[Silver Pines]

Oh, yeah it's so modern and mainline .................again! I remember my mother taking classes in astrology in the early 70's but she never once considered it as any sort of religion, and all you have to do is look back at old movies to see astrology and spiritualism displayed to know it was common back in the 30's and 40's. Now I haven't really traveled hardly anywhere, but where I have in the U.S. there has invariably been at least one place place advertising astrology/spiritualism/numerology  because there are always suckers with money. Hell anyone that ever watched Dragnet learned that these are multi state scams! As for witchcraft, there have always been followers, there will always be people looking for a way to get something without actually earning it.

@GtHawk

It's even older than that.  In the Old Testament, the Israelites are warned to leave it alone.

[240B]

I tried to watch that American Horror Story - Apocalypse but had way too much very explicit Satan worship in it for me.  That stuff does seem to be 'normalized' today in American hipster culture. But it makes me uncomfortable. I have no desire to fool around with it at all, even if it is just a TV show.

[Silver Pines]

I tried to watch that American Horror Story - Apocalypse but had way too much very explicit Satan worship in it for me.  That stuff does seem to be 'normalized' today in American hipster culture. But it makes me uncomfortable. I have no desire to fool around with it at all, even if it is just a TV show.

@240B

I like horror, but I've never watched AHS for that reason.  It looks really dark.

I watched the last season of Salem, and it skirted around the edges at times.

[240B]

@240B

I like horror, but I've never watched AHS for that reason.  It looks really dark.

I watched the last season of Salem, and it skirted around the edges at times.

There are no edges this time. The show is like watching an actual evangelical religious service for Satan. It is like watching Passion of the Christ, only it is about Satan and the antiChrist instead.  Very strong religious theme, only like the article says, it is on the other side. That seems to be in vogue these days.

[dfwgator]

There are no edges this time. The show is like watching an actual evangelical religious service for Satan. It is like watching Passion of the Christ, only it is about Satan and the antiChrist instead.  Very strong religious theme, only like the article says, it is on the other side. That seems to be in vogue these days.

The real problem is "watered-down" Christianity, that is far more harmful than the Satanic stuff.

I remember a quote from a Pastor who talked about when Satan takes over a town, he said that "There would be no pornography,   people would be kind to each other, and the Churches would be packed every Sunday......where Christ is not preached."

[Sanguine]

@GtHawk

It's even older than that.  In the Old Testament, the Israelites are warned to leave it alone.

Many, many, many times.

[sneakypete]

I tried to watch that American Horror Story - Apocalypse but had way too much very explicit Satan worship in it for me.  That stuff does seem to be 'normalized' today in American hipster culture. But it makes me uncomfortable. I have no desire to fool around with it at all, even if it is just a TV show.

@240B

I understand it makes you uncomfortable,but Satan worship is not becoming popular. This is just young people doing what young people always do,try to be hip and cool by adopting anything trendy. Doesn't mean a thing.

[Axeslinger]

@240B

I understand it makes you uncomfortable,but Satan worship is not becoming popular. This is just young people doing what young people always do,try to be hip and cool by adopting anything trendy. Doesn't mean a thing.

They should be real counter culture rebels and try to be a Christian...
Just sayin’

[sneakypete]

They should be real counter culture rebels and try to be a Christian...
Just sayin’

@Axeslinger

Joining The Borg is the exact opposite of being rebellious.

[Gefn]

Two ouija board stories:

1. Buddy of mine from High School and I roomed in the dorms first year of college. He went down the hall to join some people playing with the oujia board. He said they did the routine, and something came on who's name was 'AB' and it would keep repeating those two letters over and over. They didn't get much answers out of it, mostly just that autistic like repetition.

They were about to wind down when something else took over and spelled out: 'I AM AN ANGEL OF THE LORD. BURN THE BOARD NOW.' That's when he hiked out of there back to the room and told me the story immediately after.

2. Another buddy of mine years later who was a practicing Christian walked in on some younger friends or relatives playing with the board. He told them not to mess with that stuff and knock it off. After they left the room he put his hand on the board and said 'WHO ARE YOU?!?!'. He did that several times, and all the board would spell is 'F*** YOU!'. He finally told whatever it was to take a hike and get out of there, and that was the end of that.

And that is why I don't mess with those things.

I once played with one in junior high during a slumber party. I don’t know if someone was moving the planchette or not but it scared the poop out of me.

[Axeslinger]

@Axeslinger

Joining The Borg is the exact opposite of being rebellious.

Not in today’s society it ain’t....your personal views notwithstanding.

[roamer_1]

They should be real counter culture rebels and try to be a Christian...
Just sayin’

I had a similar epiphany - When everyone is a rebel, then rebellion is conformity... Try and stretch your head around that one...

[Dexter]

I don't think it's about being rebellious, not in this instance anyway. I think they just don't believe in it.

[Sanguine]

I don't think it's about being rebellious, not in this instance anyway. I think they just don't believe in it.

"It"?  What it is it that they don't believe in.

[Dexter]

"It"?  What it is it that they don't believe in.

Religion.

I don't think young people are turning away from it because they want to be rebels. I think they just don't believe in it.

[Sanguine]

Religion.

I don't think young people are turning away from it because they want to be rebels. I think they just don't believe in it.

And, in doing so, they turn away from God.

[roamer_1]

And, in doing so, they turn away from God.

... And toward the Fallen.

[dfwgator]

I had a similar epiphany - When everyone is a rebel, then rebellion is conformity... Try and stretch your head around that one...

Kind of like tattoos.

People used to get tattoos to stand out.

Now they get them to conform.

[sneakypete]

And, in doing so, they turn away from God.

@Sanguine

Much like turning aside from Superman,another mythical creature.

[roamer_1]

Kind of like tattoos.

People used to get tattoos to stand out.

Now they get them to conform.

Crazy, ain't it? Everything is upside down. 

[Sanguine]

@Sanguine

Much like turning aside from Superman,another mythical creature.

@sneakypete, you'd best hope you are correct.

I'm not sure why you post on these threads.  You spend a whole lot of time and effort denying that which you say doesn't exist.  If you really believe that, why bother?

[roamer_1]

@Sanguine

Much like turning aside from Superman,another mythical creature.

The sad part of that is that you don't know how right you are.

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete, you'd best hope you are correct.

I'm not sure why you post on these threads.

@Sanguine

For the same reasons I counter the propaganda spread by communists,to speak uncomfortable truths to free people.

[Silver Pines]

@Sanguine

Much like turning aside from Superman,another mythical creature.

@sneakypete

Pete, maybe you should honestly ask yourself why you’re so hostile toward something you say doesn’t even exist. 

[Silver Pines]

@sneakypete, you'd best hope you are correct.

I'm not sure why you post on these threads.  You spend a whole lot of time and effort denying that which you say doesn't exist.  If you really believe that, why bother?

@Sanguine

Oops, sorry—you already said it, lol.

[Silver Pines]

@Sanguine

For the same reasons I counter the propaganda spread by communists,to speak uncomfortable truths to free people.

@sneakypete

That’s not it; in fact, the comparison doesn’t hold water.  Communism is responsible for the deaths of 100 million people and the enslavement of more.  The Christian faith just really bothers you.

There’s a reason for it, but it’s deep inside.

[Sanguine]

@Sanguine

For the same reasons I counter the propaganda spread by communists,to speak uncomfortable truths to free people.

That's great and all, oh Sole Purveyor of Truth, but you ignored this bit:  "You spend a whole lot of time and effort denying that which you say doesn't exist.  If you really believe that, why bother?"

@sneakypete

[sneakypete]

@sneakypete

That’s not it; in fact, the comparison doesn’t hold water.  Communism is responsible for the deaths of 100 million people and the enslavement of more.

 

@CatherineofAragon

ROFLMAO! That means Communism comes in a distant 2nd place to Christianity.

Truth to tell,Communism seems to have stolen the ideas of Christianity,and used them as a pattern. The prime difference is they substituted Marx for Christ.

[sneakypete]

That's great and all, oh Sole Purveyor of Truth, but you ignored this bit:  "You spend a whole lot of time and effort denying that which you say doesn't exist.  If you really believe that, why bother?"

@sneakypete

@Sanguine

Because religious loons are a threat to freedom everywhere.

[Dexter]

@Sanguine

Because religious loons are a threat to freedom everywhere.

I think the religious element of conservatism has become an albatross. That being said I don't ascribe to atheism for the same reasons why I don't ascribe to religion. I simply accept that I don't and never will know the true nature of the universe. If you are an atheist let me just say there are one billion trillion stars in the universe and four times as many planets. We are so tiny. How could we possibly know that nothing supernatural exists in this universe that in so many ways is beyond our tiny comprehension?