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Re: Paul Ryan shoots down Trump's birthright citizenship plans
« Reply #100 on: November 01, 2018, 04:25:10 pm »
Oh yes, I'm a "naked racist":



You should just shut the hell up with your liberal Claptrap, because no one here is buying your garbage.

What is morbidly disgusting is people like you who truly engage in virtue signaling to pump liberal/Socialist/diversity-is-our-strength bullshit without any advocacy of and mention of ASSIMILATION into an American culture.  Instead, people like you do the opposite and shit all over any talk of assimilation because - well, you just said it - we're a 'naked racist country'.

So Socialist morons and imbeciles can continue to  push for open borders to a welfare state - and call it "legal".  All you want is for them to get a ticket and a lifetime meal ticket voucher to come pouring in so you can flout your 'compassion' by using our money to sate your perverted set of morals.

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These people really don't give a damn about the blacks and browns. The reason they spout this nonsense is to feel better about themselves. They seek the approval of their PC Peers.
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Re: Paul Ryan shoots down Trump's birthright citizenship plans
« Reply #101 on: November 01, 2018, 04:29:34 pm »

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....  If India's a cesspool,  why are we getting a lot of our top tech talent from there? 
 

Are you REALLY that ignorant of life in India? HTH is this even possible?
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Why not show some real compassion?
   

How many 3rd worlders have you taken into your home to "give shelter from the storm"?
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Re: Paul Ryan shoots down Trump's birthright citizenship plans
« Reply #102 on: November 01, 2018, 04:32:58 pm »

Proponents of open borders have always used the race card and will continue to use the race card as society continues to crumble around their ears. Its an easy alternative to debating.

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And the REAL reason they want to let the 3rd world in is to drive down wages and living conditions to the point where America becomes a 3rd world nation so they can take over and run the country as a private business,just like Hitler.Mao, and Stalin did in Russia,China,and Germany. EVERYBODY cogs in the machine ran by the bankers and the politicians.
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Re: Paul Ryan shoots down Trump's birthright citizenship plans
« Reply #103 on: November 01, 2018, 04:36:34 pm »
 
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Folks fleeing epidemic gang violence may or may not be legally eligible for asylum,


I hope not,every single one of them. Anyone so lazy and/or cowardly they won't fight for their own freedom in their native country damn sure is NOT going to be an asset to America. Bleep them and the train they rode in on.

 
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but you don't do Trump a bit of good when you dismiss them as "locusts".

Why? That IS what they amount to. Chances are any that aren't parasites can come here legally. Thousands of other people do this every year,so why not them?
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Re: Paul Ryan shoots down Trump's birthright citizenship plans
« Reply #104 on: November 01, 2018, 04:38:50 pm »
@skeeter

And the REAL reason they want to let the 3rd world in is to drive down wages and living conditions to the point where America becomes a 3rd world nation so they can take over and run the country as a private business,just like Hitler.Mao, and Stalin did in Russia,China,and Germany. EVERYBODY cogs in the machine ran by the bankers and the politicians.

Flooding the country with disparate peoples so as to prevent the social cohesion which could threaten their grip on power has always been a goal of the ruling elite.

So, without asking whether we agree, they transform our population to traditional society's detriment. The 'racism' charge for anyone who objects is the insult to injury.

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Re: Paul Ryan shoots down Trump's birthright citizenship plans
« Reply #105 on: November 01, 2018, 04:38:58 pm »
I do not oppose the enforcement of border laws.  Stop lying.

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True,you just want the law to allow anyone to enter that wants to enter.

Are there many jobs for infidel guitarists in Muslim bands?
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Re: Paul Ryan shoots down Trump's birthright citizenship plans
« Reply #106 on: November 01, 2018, 04:53:13 pm »
I guess I have no choice but to break out my rant from last June, when the photos of kids in cages came around....

Here goes:

Some of the people at TBR may not like what I am about to say, but here it goes....

I don't know where everyone lives who is on TBR, some put there locations, others do not.

What I have noticed is that the people who are the most ardent anti-illegal immigration people on this forum, as much as they put their locations out there, are from the southwest.
Like myself they come from, Texas, or New mexico, Arizona, and California.

There is a reason for that.

No, it is not racism, far from it.
From the time we are born, we are quite familiar with our neighbors, classmates, friends, co-workers and relatives (yes, in many cases) who's origins come from south of our border.
They are part of our lives, from day one.
Spain, then Mexico, controlled these territories before Texas, and then the USA did.
Heck, we would be be shocked if they were not here.

I find it funny now, but growing up, the people here legally with origins from south of the border would make fun of those here illegally, more so than any of us Anglos did.
They had a bit of a resentment, that they were from here, or came in the legal way, while these other did not.
These people still exist, and still don't believe in illegal immigration, but you will not see them on the evening news.
They do not fit the narrative.

No, we are adamantly opposed to it, as we see the damages done daily.
There are post here daily about one crime or another done be someone previously deported, who came back and harmed, or worse, killed someone.
We know that 15% of the Prison population in Texas is comprised of Illegals, as is 15% of our public schools, in our metro areas.
These are expenses paid by us, that needn't be, if we stop illegal immigration,Imagine 15% savings in these areas, by a United States massively in debt.

These aren't all poor asylum seekers looking for a better life.
Were any you aware that most of them have been coached on what to say when they arrive?
We here in the border states know this to be true.
As far as the farmer needing his crops picked?
Some still happens, but modern technology has made most of that a moot point.

No its not racism, or greed, or lack of compassion that drives us to be anti-illegal immigration.
It is seeing how it is destroying families, taken by a DWI or a senseless crime, committed by someone who is not allowed to be here in the first place.

Trust me, the poor illegal immigrant you see today isn't Jose and Maria, crossing the Rio Grande, looking to the new land of the Pharaohs for sanctuary.
I think we would all welcome them. Truly persecuted, why wouldn't we?
It is the schemers who call themselves dreamers who exploit this daily, trained on exactly how to act and what to say when they arrive, only to disappear into the woodwork long before their court date arrives.

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Re: Paul Ryan shoots down Trump's birthright citizenship plans
« Reply #107 on: November 01, 2018, 05:01:55 pm »
Oh yes, I'm a "naked racist":




It has been said that Character is what you do when nobody is looking.


@INVAR OTOH has photographic documentation, readily at hand.

Give a man a sish, Teach a man to fish, and be sure to get photos.

Who paid for that trip?
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Re: Paul Ryan shoots down Trump's birthright citizenship plans
« Reply #108 on: November 01, 2018, 05:12:41 pm »
INVAR, you virtue-signal as much as any liberal I've encountered.    I say you're a fraud.

I cannot say what you are on this forum without getting banned.
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Re: Paul Ryan shoots down Trump's birthright citizenship plans
« Reply #109 on: November 01, 2018, 05:15:54 pm »
I guess I have no choice but to break out my rant from last June, when the photos of kids in cages came around....

Here goes:

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No, we are adamantly opposed to it, as we see the damages done daily.
There are post here daily about one crime or another done be someone previously deported, who came back and harmed, or worse, killed someone.

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Speaking only for my family, we had a loved one murdered by 4 illegal youts.  I will always have a different attitude about illegal immigration that my friends in New England.
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Re: Paul Ryan shoots down Trump's birthright citizenship plans
« Reply #110 on: November 01, 2018, 05:17:23 pm »
It has been said that Character is what you do when nobody is looking.


@INVAR OTOH has photographic documentation, readily at hand.

Give a man a sish, Teach a man to fish, and be sure to get photos.

Who paid for that trip?

I did. 

The pictures and the hundreds of hours of video are used in presentations given in churches across the land to bring awareness of the plight of all Christians in India - and to encourage them to get back into mission work, which a large majority of churches have abandoned or limited.

It is educational to say the least to read all the ridicule and seething vitriol that erupts when God or His work is mentioned on a "Conservative" board.
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Re: Paul Ryan shoots down Trump's birthright citizenship plans
« Reply #111 on: November 01, 2018, 05:26:22 pm »
Speaking only for my family, we had a loved one murdered by 4 illegal youts.  I will always have a different attitude about illegal immigration that my friends in New England.

I had a friend lose a 12 year old daughter to an illegal alien, hit and killed her in a crosswalk right in front of him. The funeral was one of the worst experiences I've ever had.

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« Reply #112 on: November 01, 2018, 05:33:23 pm »
Is that statement based on your reading of Wong Kim Ark, or something else, @Oceander ?    How can an illegal be said to be "resident [in the United States] under the protection of the government and owing a temporary allegiance thereto"  if neither the illegal nor the federal government acknowledges her presence here?   

An individual who is physically present within the territory of the US, unacknowledged or not, is subject to the jurisdiction of the US unless that individual has some grant of immunity based on his or her relationship to another sovereign.

As Judge Ho said in his article, it is precisely the fact that they are subject to the jurisdiction of the US that makes them illegal aliens; if they were not so subject, they would not be illegal aliens. 

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Re: Paul Ryan shoots down Trump's birthright citizenship plans
« Reply #113 on: November 01, 2018, 05:34:21 pm »
Speaking only for my family, we had a loved one murdered by 4 illegal youts.  I will always have a different attitude about illegal immigration that my friends in New England.

I had a friend lose a 12 year old daughter to an illegal alien, hit and killed her in a crosswalk right in front of him. The funeral was one of the worst experiences I've ever had

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I am very sorry to hear this. My condolences.
This was all avoidable, had our immigration laws been fully enforced.

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Re: Paul Ryan shoots down Trump's birthright citizenship plans
« Reply #114 on: November 01, 2018, 05:48:15 pm »
It has been said that Character is what you do when nobody is looking.


@INVAR OTOH has photographic documentation, readily at hand.

Give a man a sish, Teach a man to fish, and be sure to get photos.

Who paid for that trip?

That is a specious argument if there ever was one.
What then is proper, to take no pictures of a missionary experience? Or that those pictures, taken as a matter of course,  cannot be used after the fact to prove the point?

How absurd.

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Re: Paul Ryan shoots down Trump's birthright citizenship plans
« Reply #115 on: November 01, 2018, 05:49:48 pm »
I had a friend lose a 12 year old daughter to an illegal alien, hit and killed her in a crosswalk right in front of him. The funeral was one of the worst experiences I've ever had

@Cyber Liberty
@skeeter

I am very sorry to hear this. My condolences.
This was all avoidable, had our immigration laws been fully enforced.

TY.  After a long while, the pain fades some, but the memories of what happened, and why it was allowed to happen, will never crawl away from me.  It's always like just yesterday.

Two of the youts escaped justice by fleeing to Mexico, the other two were eventually convicted and got 10 years each.  10 years!  I am sure they were released from prison years ago.
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Re: Paul Ryan shoots down Trump's birthright citizenship plans
« Reply #116 on: November 01, 2018, 06:13:51 pm »
I did. 

The pictures and the hundreds of hours of video are used in presentations given in churches across the land to bring awareness of the plight of all Christians in India - and to encourage them to get back into mission work, which a large majority of churches have abandoned or limited.

It is educational to say the least to read all the ridicule and seething vitriol that erupts when God or His work is mentioned on a "Conservative" board.

So is it you in the photo?

What funded the trip(s)

Either way, it is clear you personally associate yourselff with such religious "good works"
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« Reply #117 on: November 01, 2018, 06:29:59 pm »
So is it you in the photo?

What funded the trip(s)

Either way, it is clear you personally associate yourselff with such religious "good works"

Good works in quotes, as if they're to be questioned.
Howabout addressing the argument instead of attacking the messenger?


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Re: Paul Ryan shoots down Trump's birthright citizenship plans
« Reply #118 on: November 01, 2018, 06:38:57 pm »
What then is proper, to take no pictures of a missionary experience? Or that those pictures, taken as a matter of course,  cannot be used after the fact to prove the point?

Remember, the point was being made that I am a racist.

So is it you in the photo?

What funded the trip(s)

I already answered you. 

Either way, it is clear you personally associate yourselff with such religious "good works"

If that offends you and you find it distasteful, requiring ridicule, so be it.

Some will say, “You have faith; but I have deeds.”   Show me your faith without deeds, and I will show you my faith by my deeds. - James 2:18

Good works in quotes, as if they're to be questioned.
Howabout addressing the argument instead of attacking the messenger?

Let him attack.  He shows himself for what he despises, and God gets all the glory.
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Re: Paul Ryan shoots down Trump's birthright citizenship plans
« Reply #119 on: November 01, 2018, 07:08:18 pm »
And, a cheery good morning to you too, @Once-Ler.  The sun is shining, it's cool, and life is good.   Have a nice day.
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« Reply #120 on: November 01, 2018, 07:33:27 pm »
Remember, the point was being made that I am a racist.

Right... And the pic proved the point, in your favor (ie: You are certainly not a racist).

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« Reply #121 on: November 01, 2018, 07:46:06 pm »
Right... And the pic proved the point, in your favor (ie: You are certainly not a racist).

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I did not make any claim of racism. I am comparing and contrasting the seeming inconsistency of passion, over the plights of brown people in India, and equally needy souls in Latin America.

John Schmitz, conservative Christian political figure, and Marjoe Gortner color my impression of loud attion seeking folks.

Virtue signaling is still what I see.


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« Reply #122 on: November 01, 2018, 07:48:41 pm »
Right... And the pic proved the point, in your favor (ie: You are certainly not a racist).

Well thank you but you know as well as I do that evidence never stops liberals using those tactics to smear those they want to silence.

But be careful, if you do provide evidence to the contrary - you will automatically be accused of 'virtue signaling' which is right up there in heinousness with being declared a 'racist'.

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Virtue signaling is still what I see.

See? 

I just chalk it up to the fact that you people hate the truth, period.  They do not want to see it, read it, heart it or know it exists.  Thus the accusations, ridicule and smear.

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Re: Paul Ryan shoots down Trump's birthright citizenship plans
« Reply #123 on: November 01, 2018, 07:51:53 pm »
I did not make any claim of racism. I am comparing and contrasting the seeming inconsistency of passion, over the plights of brown people in India, and equally needy souls in Latin America.

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Oh bullshit. As if opening our borders wide and letting all comers get on the public dole is anything at all like charity. Nonsense.

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Virtue signaling is still what I see.

Which is why the term 'virtue signaling' demonstrates a paucity of thought.

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Re: Paul Ryan shoots down Trump's birthright citizenship plans
« Reply #124 on: November 01, 2018, 07:55:21 pm »
I am comparing and contrasting the seeming inconsistency of passion, over the plights of brown people in India, and equally needy souls in Latin America.

I wasn't called to go to Latin America.  I did not want to go to India either.  But that's another testimony.

And, as I said earlier - I WENT TO THEM.  Spent my own funds and time to serve them.   I did not advocate they come here to sponge off of you and your neighbors using the government's guns so I can call myself 'compassionate'.

But if you are all heart wrenched over the plight of Mexicans and South Americans, perhaps that is your calling to hop on a plane and go down there to serve them.
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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775