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5 Bizarre Facts About Cesar Sayoc & His Fake Pipe Bomb Scare That Are Making Americans Shout “False Flag!”

If you are still trying to process the information and figure out what you believe, here are 5 things to consider.
Dean Garrison — October 27, 2018


Editor's Note: On Friday, I wrote about the things that we were "being told" about alleged bombing suspect Cesar Sayoc. After citing several sources, including his criminal history, I wrote, "Considering how the "bombs" were constructed, the lack of postage on the packaging and some of this overt "Trump support," I am going to remain very cynical here about everything coming out because this looks like an orchestrated false flag incident to me.  I could be wrong, but I don't think I am." Lo and behold, that cynicism was warranted and this guy is a part of the criminal party of the Democrats, despite the fact that he apparently was registered as a Republican.

A large number of Americans are not sold on this fake pipe bomb story and are entertaining the idea that this was a false flag to benefit Democrats AND that Cesar Sayoc is simply a patsy.

If you are still trying to process the information and figure out what you believe, here are 5 things to consider:

https://freedomoutpost.com/5-bizarre-facts-about-cesar-sayoc-his-fake-pipe-bomb-scare-that-are-making-americans-shout-false-flag/

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I noticed the van stickers on my own and had the same thoughts. Those stickers look like they have never been in the sun. They look like they have never even been rained on. They all do look brand new like they are only a few days old.


And the idea of restricting the driver's view came to mind as well. If this were legal, then dope dealers all over the state would cover all their windows with stickers instead of tinting them jet black like so many do now.

Also, that picture of him at a Trump rally is 'look at me!' perfect. It is not a blowup of him in a crowd. It is a close up of him alone. Almost like he wanted to establish that he really was there. I wonder who took the photo, and why? Did he go to a Trump rally by himself?


The fact that he is pleading 'not guilty', and says he didn't do it is also interesting.
The whole thing is very weird. And it was done too close to the election to get any closure before the votes are cast.
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You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists.

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Part of me wants to believe these are the acts of a lone nutbar, and I still lean that way, but we're talking about the party of the Steele Dossier here. The stakes are high and the rats have shown the lengths they'll go to to win back power.

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Careful now, guys..... lest ye be deemed a tin foiler conspiracy theory nutjob by the anti-Trumpers/NTs.   (shudder, gasp, etc.)  Apparently, it behooves their stance to mock those of us that smell the stinky, fishy scenario that this entire (yet another) fiasco represents.

Personally... I don't GAF what they think about what I think.  That's how I roll.
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Careful now, guys..... lest ye be deemed a tin foiler conspiracy theory nutjob by the anti-Trumpers/NTs.   (shudder, gasp, etc.)  Apparently, it behooves their stance to mock those of us that smell the stinky, fishy scenario that this entire (yet another) fiasco represents.

Personally... I don't GAF what they think about what I think.  That's how I roll.
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LOL, yea I saw that a couple of days ago. A couple of the NTs here were patting each other on the back about how exhaulted and intellectual they are by believing the full CNN line that Trump is responsible for the whole thing. I just laughed quietly and let it go.

The cherry on top was when they said that there is no difference in the behavior of Republicans to that of Liberals in terms of violence. I almost spit up my coffee reading that. But you know, sometimes you just have to let children be children. There's nothing you can do really until they grow up and begin to see things in a more realistic way. If that's what they believe then great, I guess. They are blind idiots but, what can you do? It is not my job to correct them.

There is no Republican equivalent to the Democrat brownshirts called Antifa. (the new KKK)
There is no Democrat being shouted out of restaurants and threatened with physical violence to their face. (happens every day to Republicans across the nation)
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
Rational fear and anger at vicious murderous Islamic terrorists is the same as irrational antisemitism, according to the Leftists.

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LOL, yea I saw that a couple of days ago. A couple of the NTs here were patting each other on the back about how exhaulted and intellectual they are by believing the full CNN line that Trump is responsible for the whole thing. I just laughed quietly and let it go.

The cherry on top was when they said that there is no difference in the behavior of Republicans to that of Liberals in terms of violence. I almost spit up my coffee reading that. But you know, sometimes you just have to let children be children. There's nothing you can do really until they grow up and begin to see things in a more realistic way. If that's what they believe then great, I guess. They are blind idiots but, what can you do? It is not my job to correct them.

There is no Republican equivalent to the Democrat brownshirts called Antifa. (the new KKK)
There is no Democrat being shouted out of restaurants and threatened with physical violence to their face. (happens every day to Republicans across the nation)

Exactly.   :beer:
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I vote the guy’s a patsy set up by deep state actors connected to the resistance.

(So, this is what it’s like to jump into a conspiracy theory, my first. Feels a bit like plopping down 2 bucks and playing the lottery   333cleo)

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@XenaLee
LOL, yea I saw that a couple of days ago. A couple of the NTs here were patting each other on the back about how exhaulted and intellectual they are by believing the full CNN line that Trump is responsible for the whole thing. I just laughed quietly and let it go.

The cherry on top was when they said that there is no difference in the behavior of Republicans to that of Liberals in terms of violence. I almost spit up my coffee reading that. But you know, sometimes you just have to let children be children. There's nothing you can do really until they grow up and begin to see things in a more realistic way. If that's what they believe then great, I guess. They are blind idiots but, what can you do? It is not my job to correct them.

There is no Republican equivalent to the Democrat brownshirts called Antifa. (the new KKK)
There is no Democrat being shouted out of restaurants and threatened with physical violence to their face. (happens every day to Republicans across the nation)

As the months rolled by since the election, have adopted essentially the same attitude, @240B

Now, only when 'The Stupid' and the sanctimony get too thick/deep do I don my John Wick clothes.

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I vote the guy’s a patsy set up by deep state actors connected to the resistance.

(So, this is what it’s like to jump into a conspiracy theory, my first. Feels a bit like plopping down 2 bucks and playing the lottery   333cleo)

Totally the opposite, in fact.  When you waste money playing the lottery, it's purely an emotional choice, hoping against hope that you'll miraculously strike it rich.   Believing that there is more to this story than what is being revealed is just employing your common sense and logic (assuming you have any, that is).  When you add up all of the odd things in this "Sayoc lone wolf" story, it is logical to conclude that since the guy's a bloomin idiot, he had to have had help from someone.  And that's without even factoring in the deep state, radical left's desperation and what we already know they're capable of. 
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I vote the guy’s a patsy set up by deep state actors connected to the resistance.

(So, this is what it’s like to jump into a conspiracy theory, my first. Feels a bit like plopping down 2 bucks and playing the lottery   333cleo)

What bugs me, @aligncare ... we still know nothing about the Las Vegas shooter that killer almost 60 and wounded hundreds.

An FBI/CIA informant who went postal on them?   A quid pro quo similar to TWA800 off Long Island?



Sure, we can play around with the idea that he was promised $$$ and best representation...but is that really enough?

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Mr. Rate: Would've been a bad job to take, though.

Nick Memphis: How come?

Mr. Rate: Whoever took that shot's probably dead now. That's how conspiracy works. Them boys on the grassy knoll, they were dead within three hours. Buried in the damn desert. Unmarked graves out past Terlingua.

Nick Memphis: And you know this for a fact?

Mr. Rate: Still got the shovel!

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Totally the opposite, in fact.  When you waste money playing the lottery, it's purely an emotional choice, hoping against hope that you'll miraculously strike it rich.   Believing that there is more to this story than what is being revealed is just employing your common sense and logic (assuming you have any, that is).  When you add up all of the odd things in this "Sayoc lone wolf" story, it is logical to conclude that since the guy's a bloomin idiot, he had to have had help from someone.  And that's without even factoring in the deep state, radical left's desperation and what we already know they're capable of.

That's just what his lawyer, who has known him for more than a decade, said. His own lawyer said the the man is not mentally capable of doing this on his own. He simply doesn't have the brains to do it alone.
You cannot "COEXIST" with people who want to kill you.
If they kill their own with no conscience, there is nothing to stop them from killing you.
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That's just what his lawyer, who has known him for more than a decade, said. His own lawyer said the the man is not mentally capable of doing this on his own. He simply doesn't have the brains to do it alone.

Judging by all that I've read thus far, I'd have to agree.

And I still want to know more about this 'other' business partner he has/had.... the one that has not spoken up and talked to the media.
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    According to the New York Post, at least some of the parcels had passed through a USPS mail processing center in Opa-Locka, Florida. New York Times says: “Though investigators initially believed that some of the packages were delivered by hand or courier, they have now concluded that all 10 were likely sent through the mail, a person briefed on the matter said.”

    Strangely, although the packages had gone through the US Postal Service (USPS), they do not have the USPS postmark, stamp cancellation lines, and barcode that must be applied BEFORE a letter or package is delivered to the addressee. (See USPS’ “How A Letter Travels“)

Link to "How a letter travels" is included in the quote I pulled from the source article.  I've been smelling a rat since this part of the story first broke, and that rat is investigating it.  This is not an investigation, it's a cover-up designed to keep the wool over our eyes.  No way, no how did these envelopes pass through the Post Office without getting the stamps canceled.  No.  Effin.  Way.

Somebody in the CNN mailroom is in on the caper.
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Link to "How a letter travels" is included in the quote I pulled from the source article.  I've been smelling a rat since this part of the story first broke, and that rat is investigating it.  This is not an investigation, it's a cover-up designed to keep the wool over our eyes.  No way, no how did these envelopes pass through the Post Office without getting the stamps canceled.  No.  Effin.  Way.

Somebody in the CNN mailroom is in on the caper.

They have to stick with the ‘they were all sent through the mail’ line. Otherwise Sayoc would’ve had to deliver them. And he might have an alibi.

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They have to stick with the ‘they were all sent through the mail’ line. Otherwise Sayoc would’ve had to deliver them. And he might have an alibi.

That, and how could he have delivered all of them by himself, different locations, without being spotted and noticed...

in that stupid van.... that was like shining a spotlight and saying "Hey, lookee at meeeee!" (just like in the one pic of him at a Trump rally).  It just makes no logical sense.

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They have to stick with the ‘they were all sent through the mail’ line. Otherwise Sayoc would’ve had to deliver them. And he might have an alibi

The problem with that line is just about everybody has sent and received snail-mail, and nobody has ever seen a letter with uncancelled stamps on their incoming mail.  That never, ever happens, so we've being asked to believe the most fantastic tale here.
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Link to "How a letter travels" is included in the quote I pulled from the source article.  I've been smelling a rat since this part of the story first broke, and that rat is investigating it.  This is not an investigation, it's a cover-up designed to keep the wool over our eyes.  No way, no how did these envelopes pass through the Post Office without getting the stamps canceled.  No.  Effin.  Way.

Somebody in the CNN mailroom is in on the caper.

I have gotten lots of mail that has not had the stamps canceled out, heck sometimes I just see if the postage will peel off and throw them in the stamp bucket to reuse. It occurs a lot on packages that are stuffed and oddly shaped (like it needs to be hand stamped to cancel them). I used to sell a lot of old car parts on Ebay, and if the buyer had a problem (like I sent them the wrong part) they often would use the same package I sent them and put it in a new bubble wrap package and the postage would still there unmarred.

I don't see a problem with one package getting through without the stamps canceled, but if all the packages arrived that way, either somone is not doing their job, or it is fishy. How many packages were photographed in unmolested condition? One to CNN does not a case make. 
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Wow...for a second there I thought I was reading Free Republic....   

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Wow...for a second there I thought I was reading Free Republic....

Nobody likes a smart-ass.

Uh...

except maybe other smart-asses. 
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The problem with that line is just about everybody has sent and received snail-mail, and nobody has ever seen a letter with uncancelled stamps on their incoming mail.  That never, ever happens, so we've being asked to believe the most fantastic tale here.

Good grief, I have seen unstamped (uncanceled stamps) mail to many times to count. It occurs more often than you probable know. Especially on odd shaped packages where the stamps are at an angle, but I have seen it on flat boxes too.
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Good grief, I have seen unstamped mail to many times to count. It occurs more often than you probable know. Especially on odd shaped packages where the stamps are at an angle, but I have seen it on flat boxes too.

I've never seen that.  But, I rarely use snail mail anymore, so I could be out of date.  Those envelopes look like they would have required hand-cancel....

Back when I had friends who worked in the Post Office, cancelling stamps was Job One. Maybe they've gotten sloppy, so it's no wonder they're bumping up the cost of Forever stamps by 10%.
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Good grief, I have seen unstamped mail to many times to count. It occurs more often than you probable know. Especially on odd shaped packages where the stamps are at an angle, but I have seen it on flat boxes too.

Well that makes one of us.... since I have NEVER seen that.   And aside from working in offices that received all sizes and shapes of mail for most of my career, I also worked a few years for a friend of mine in his office where all sorts and shapes of packages were received (auto and RV parts).   The postal service always made it clear that the packages had been sent via them and not just delivered... hence the cancelled marks.
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I've never seen that.  But, I rarely use snail mail anymore, so I could be out of date.  Those envelopes look like they would have required hand-cancel....

Back when I had friends who worked in the Post Office, cancelling stamps was Job One. Maybe they've gotten sloppy, so it's no wonder they're bumping up the cost of Forever stamps by 10%.

There's no way they have gotten that "sloppy" post 9/11, CL.  If anything, they have been forced to get more attentive and actually (gasp).... do their jobs.  Nah... most of those bogus bomb packages were most likely hand-delivered, just like the one to CNN.
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I've never seen that.  But, I rarely use snail mail anymore, so I could be out of date.  Those envelopes look like they would have required hand-cancel....

Back when I had friends who worked in the Post Office, cancelling stamps was Job One. Maybe they've gotten sloppy, so it's no wonder they're bumping up the cost of Forever stamps by 10%.

You made me go look at the CNN package, yeah, it would of been pretty rounded. I am not sure how automated the post office is now days, but I can see if relying on a machine it might of missed getting right.
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You made me go look at the CNN package, yeah, it would of been pretty rounded. I am not sure how automated the post office is now days, but I can see if relying on a machine it might of missed getting right.

Their automation is at least as good as the machines used by banks and casinos to count out amounts of currency, which can be anywhere from pristine condition to dog-eared AH.  I really don't know enough about the state of current conditions in the Postal System.

What are the odds the Post Office would slip the cancellation cog on two packages at the same time?   :shrug:
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