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Trump: 'Robert E. Lee was a great general'
« on: October 13, 2018, 02:18:05 am »
Trump: 'Robert E. Lee was a great general'

By Chris Mills Rodrigo - 10/12/18 09:44 PM EDT
 

President Trump praised Confederate Geader Robert E. Lee as "a great general" on Friday during a campaign rally in Lebanon, Ohio.

"So Robert E. Lee was a great general. And Abraham Lincoln developed a phobia. He couldn’t beat Robert E. Lee," Trump said before launching into a monologue about Lee, Lincoln and Ulysses S. Grant.

"He was going crazy. I don’t know if you know this story. But Robert E. Lee was winning battle after battle after battle. And Abraham Lincoln came home, he said, 'I can’t beat Robert E. Lee,'" Trump said.

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https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/411237-trump-robert-e-lee-was-a-great-general

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Re: Trump: 'Robert E. Lee was a great general'
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2018, 02:27:42 am »
Lee was a great general, but he was on the ropes a couple times and McClellan didn’t press his advantage.  Consequently, the war went longer and got bloodier.
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Re: Trump: 'Robert E. Lee was a great general'
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2018, 02:33:43 am »
...and Grant turned it around and beat Lee....

Every thing Trump said re Lee, Lincoln and Grant is true...it's history...
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Re: Trump: 'Robert E. Lee was a great general'
« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2018, 02:42:40 am »
Trump sure is turning this insane PC world upside down by telling the truth.
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Re: Trump: 'Robert E. Lee was a great general'
« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2018, 02:49:52 am »
Trump: 'Robert E. Lee was a great general'

By Chris Mills Rodrigo - 10/12/18 09:44 PM EDT
 

President Trump praised Confederate Geader Robert E. Lee as "a great general" on Friday during a campaign rally in Lebanon, Ohio.

"So Robert E. Lee was a great general. And Abraham Lincoln developed a phobia. He couldn’t beat Robert E. Lee," Trump said before launching into a monologue about Lee, Lincoln and Ulysses S. Grant.

"He was going crazy. I don’t know if you know this story. But Robert E. Lee was winning battle after battle after battle. And Abraham Lincoln came home, he said, 'I can’t beat Robert E. Lee,'" Trump said.

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https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/411237-trump-robert-e-lee-was-a-great-general

H/T @CatherineofAragon

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Re: Trump: 'Robert E. Lee was a great general'
« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2018, 02:51:45 am »
Well he was better than Custer.

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Re: Trump: 'Robert E. Lee was a great general'
« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2018, 02:56:31 am »
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DJT just went up two notches for me tonight.  Would have been 3, if he would have called Sherman the son of a bitch he was.

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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2018, 03:00:24 am »
:beer:    :patriot:

Not wanting to take this thread off topic, but did you see Milwaukee is ahead of LA 5-1 in the 7th.  Kershaw gave up 5 R in 3 IP.

I don't think many saw that coming.
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2018, 03:05:39 am »
Not wanting to take this thread off topic, but did you see Milwaukee is ahead of LA 5-1 in the 7th.  Kershaw gave up 5 R in 3 IP.

I don't think many saw that coming.

LOL!  It's on in the background, @catfish1957 !!

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Re: Trump: 'Robert E. Lee was a great general'
« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2018, 03:17:22 am »
...and Grant turned it around and beat Lee....

Every thing Trump said re Lee, Lincoln and Grant is true...it's history...

Yes, it is @mystery-ak   Robert E. Lee was a wonderful man and a great general.  Lincoln wanted him to fight for the North, but he wanted to keep Virginia free.
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2018, 03:21:59 am »
   Rumor is that Gen. Lee also dated a Slovenia underwear model and was a Democrat.  /JS
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Re: Trump: 'Robert E. Lee was a great general'
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2018, 03:23:34 am »
Lincoln wanted him to fight for the North, but he wanted to keep Virginia free.


No, he was against secession and didn’t want to take up arms against family and neighbors.
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Re: Trump: 'Robert E. Lee was a great general'
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2018, 03:29:40 am »
   Rumor is that Gen. Lee also dated a Slovenia underwear model and was a Democrat.  /JS

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Re: Trump: 'Robert E. Lee was a great general'
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2018, 03:35:02 am »
   Rumor is that Gen. Lee also dated a Slovenia underwear model and was a Democrat.  /JS

Don't you be dissing Robert E. Lee on a thread Catfish and I are on.  We've got that Southern heritage down.
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2018, 03:57:18 am »
Don't you be dissing Robert E. Lee on a thread Catfish and I are on.  We've got that Southern heritage down.

Dang right...
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Re: Trump: 'Robert E. Lee was a great general'
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2018, 04:35:14 am »
Shouldn't Trump be holding a tiki torch when he says this?

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Re: Trump: 'Robert E. Lee was a great general'
« Reply #17 on: October 13, 2018, 04:40:08 am »
Shouldn't Trump be holding a tiki torch when he says this?

Nope, the only mosquito pests are the PC pukes who have misconstrued racist and the KKK hijacking the CBF and other symbols of southern heritage.

p.s.  I saw the intent.  You want to dig up some confederate generals while you are at it?
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« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2018, 04:43:59 am »
Nope, the only mosquito pests are the PC pukes who have misconstrued racist and the KKK hijacking the CBF and other symbols of southern heritage.

p.s.  I saw the intent.  You want to dig up some confederate generals while you are at it?

You lost almost 150 years ago.  get over it.

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Re: Trump: 'Robert E. Lee was a great general'
« Reply #19 on: October 13, 2018, 05:44:46 am »
Hmm.............so now it's Trump the historian? Who knew?
Granted, Lee was the superior tactician in the War, yet the North won because of it's superior "weight",
as well as the circumstances of history.
Charles Adams, Lincoln's Ambassador was decisive, as he persuaded Britain to remain neutral.
By the mid-19th century, the South was Britain's natural economic ally supplying the cotton that kept the great mills of Manchester, Birmingham and Cardiff humming, a catalyst for Britain's economic power.
Also Britain was approaching it's zenith of Empire w/a Navy that went wherever and whenever it chose.
Had Britain allied w/the South; it could have closed all, ALL, our northern ports in an instant.
Further, Canada remained a Crown Colony after our revolution, housing some 50.000 British Regulars;
which would have directly threatened Boston, New York and Philadelphia.
Wonder if Thucydides Trump mentioned any of this?????????????????????

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Re: Trump: 'Robert E. Lee was a great general'
« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2018, 08:09:37 am »
Did Trump get in trouble for saying this or something? This is not a racist or "Confederate sympathizing" statement of any kind. Watch or read any literature on Robert E. Lee, the man was a brilliant military leader. That is not disputed. What Trump says was simply the truth.

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« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2018, 09:48:37 am »
You lost almost 150 years ago.  get over it.

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« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2018, 10:24:42 am »
Far as I'm concerned Lee was a traitor.
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Re: Trump: 'Robert E. Lee was a great general'
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2018, 11:33:25 am »
Far as I'm concerned Lee was a traitor.
Under that logic, anyone who remained loyal to the individual states that seceded would have been traitors to the union, and anyone who remained loyal to the union would have been traitors to their state.

There are only two reasons we give the Union the high road. One is because they won, but that's only a minor issue because the Native Americans consistently lost wars against us and we generally treat them pretty well these days for a conquered people. The other, more pressing issue, is because the Confederacy explicitly supported slavery, which the North was phasing out—although I would argue that under modern standards, most Northern politicians and generals were equally as racist as those in the South.

From all I understand about him, General Lee was a good man, loyal to his home state of Virginia more than he was a rebel against the United States, but caught on the wrong side of history. He was an effective general, without whom the South likely would've been crushed. He made efforts at redeeming himself at Washington and Lee University (co-named after himself and his great-grandfather by marriage, none other than George Washington).
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Re: Trump: 'Robert E. Lee was a great general'
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2018, 11:48:45 am »
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