OPINION: Trump could be the most honest president in modern history

[Chosen Daughter]

I'm going to miss Trump too when he is imprisoned.

I don't like insulting a clown suffering from narcissism, Alzheimer's, and syphilis,  but it has kept me endlessly entertained for the 2 last year.  When Trump said a hurricane was the wettest in history, and he said had "the best words," and "I'm really smart..."  hilarious

Watching him in action today doing the same stuff he criticized Obama for 4 years earlier, and documenting it on twitter for me to enjoy today.   He's done so much.   

But to read today that some body actually wrote Trump is the most honest President, when he is a pathological liar, is a highlight.

It's not arguable by any rational person that Trump is honest.  He not only lies about the big stuff, like hating the spending bills he signs, but also the petty insignificant stuff that is easily disprovable.

On day one Trump commanded Sean Spicer to not just repeat what Trump had to say about his inauguration attendance, but also commanded Spicer to argue Trump's lie "biggest in history" personally.  Trump says he can't release his tax returns, "Mexico is gonna pay for the wall,"  Mexico is sending rapists and murderers, there are some good nazis, and "I don't know anything about that you'll have to ask Michael Cohen."

You know he's a liar.  I know he's a liar.  Why play this game?

Yeah Trumps honest, what a hoot!  The main thing he promised hasn't been done.  And had he not signed the first outrageous spending bill perhaps we would have a wall.

So from the opening post I would like to comment on this:

He promised to impose a travel ban on countries that he saw as posing a terrorist threat, and after several false starts the final version of his ban was upheld by the Supreme Court.

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I never really got this.  Terrorism exists everywhere.  Britain, France, Sweden........etc.  Islamic extremists can come from any country.  But the biggest national threat to this country is right on our southern border.  Open to anyone that wants to come including Islamic extremists.  Easy access.  And these brutal "terrorist" Cartel actually have a border business with tactics equal to ISIS.  They cross and they actually operate right here inside of our border.  They flood our communities with drugs putting all of our children at risk of becoming drug addicts. 

They use our Federal lands to grow marijuana.  These grow operations are a threat to the wildlife in our mountain ranges.  They leave heaps of garbage, even all kinds of chemicals which kill the wildlife and enter into our streams and rivers.  Pose real danger to any citizens who happen to come across these well armed criminals doing criminal drug business.

They rape and mutilate.  They sell women and children into sex, human trafficking.  they are a danger to all of us but they enter.  They enter without any passport check.  They walk across.  They exist and we do nothing.

EXCLUSIVE — GRAPHIC: Mexican State Begins 2018 with 45 Executions

MORELIA, Michoacan — Despite constant statements from officials about improving public safety, 2018 already yields more than 45 executions–with 15 of those victims being dismembered.
The cartel violence felt in Michoacan is tied to a fierce war between Cartel Jalisco Nueva Generacion and an alliance between La Nueva Familia Michoacana and a cartel known as “Los Viagras”. The fight for control has spread from Michoacan to the states of Guanajuato and Guerrero, where both sides have a presence.

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2018/01/10/exclusive-graphic-mexican-state-begins-2018-45-executions/

https://www.thetrumpet.com/9270-beheading-mexico

[Sanguine]

Lets go through them then...

@Sanguine
You believe this is a lie, yes?

Do you believe Trump had the biggest attendance?
Do you believe he didn't tell Spicer to say it?

Ah, you little cherry picker, you.

Let me say first that I don't think Trump is very closely acquainted with accurate speech.  However, for you to take little bits of statements out of context and say they are lies, that is wrong and that's what the other side does.  He is a very imprecise speaker and says a whole lot of stuff.  If you cherry-pick, you can make it sound like he said almost anything.  Or, maybe he did.

On day one Trump commanded Sean Spicer to not just repeat what Trump had to say about his inauguration attendance, but also commanded Spicer to argue Trump's lie "biggest in history" personally. 

He said that included people online. I don't know if it's true or not, but probably not a clear lie.

Trump says he can't release his tax returns,

He said he won't. 

"Mexico is gonna pay for the wall," 

One way or the other, Mexico will pay for the wall.  Which is why all the wailing and gnashing of teeth.  And, you can't label something a lie that hasn't happened yet.

Mexico is sending rapists and murderers,

The Mexican government very actively facilitates the emigration of many of its citizens to the US.  Many of them are criminals, here and/or in Mexico.  Sorry, this is clearly true.

there are some good nazis,

He didn't say anything close to that.  Saying that he did is a lie. He did say that there were: “very fine people on both sides” of the protest.

...

and "I don't know anything about that you'll have to ask Michael Cohen."

I can't address that.  Not sure what it comes from or the context.

[INVAR]

But the biggest national threat to this country is right on our southern border....they are a danger to all of us but they enter.  They enter without any passport check.  They walk across.  They exist and we do nothing.

And they never will, because BOTH parties - BOTH sides the aisle in Government WANT- let me repeat - WANT open borders because BOTH the Republican Oligarchy and the Leftists see a desperate need to flood the country with illiterate squatters.

Because BOTH want to replace the existing white majority population - albeit for different reasons.

The Left wants the white majority replaced because they know that third world squatters are already conditioned to be dependent upon government, will do what they are told, and will keep corruptocrat Leftist/Socialists in power for perpetuity as long as they keep them in provisions, even if they are meager.  Like the Left, third world invaders have no allegiance to the country and no desire to shed their cultural identity to become American, as they despise American culture as much as the Left does. The Left see them as their future for total power in Socialism/Communism that they are already disposed to.

The Republicans, beholden to the Chamber of Commerce want cheap labor existing outside the regulations that strangle above-board businesses.  They also recognize the negative replacement birthright among Americans and see embracing third world squatters as their only answer to keep the SoSec ponzi scheme and government programs afloat before they implode over an aging population no longer paying into the general fund whereby  it takes a dozen workers to pay for the benefits of just one SoSec/Welfare recipient and it will require a 95% tax rate on all workers just to keep benefits current at existing levels.

There is no willpower in government to secure the borders, the only willpower that government has is to open them further because Republicans, Leftists and Democrats know and understand that open borders means money, power and control of the people in the future.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Ah, you little cherry picker, you.

Let me say first that I don't think Trump is very closely acquainted with accurate speech.  However, for you to take little bits of statements out of context and say they are lies, that is wrong and that's what the other side does.  He is a very imprecise speaker and says a whole lot of stuff.  If you cherry-pick, you can make it sound like he said almost anything.  Or, maybe he did.

He said that included people online. I don't know if it's true or not, but probably not a clear lie.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-inauguration-viewership/
It lacks common sense, but it's not provable.  So you give him a pass.

He said he won't.

https://fox2now.com/2016/02/26/trump-says-he-cant-release-tax-returns-because-of-audits/

“I’m being audited now for two or three years, so I can’t do it ." 
 

One way or the other, Mexico will pay for the wall.  Which is why all the wailing and gnashing of teeth.  And, you can't label something a lie that hasn't happened yet.

Enough...peddle that bu11sh1t to a dumber man.  I appreciate the pathetic reply, but I fear it was a waste of our time.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,336022.msg1818210.html#msg1818210
House Majority Leader Introducing Bill To Fully Fund Border Wall

[Sanguine]

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-inauguration-viewership/
It lacks common sense, but it's not provable.  So you give him a pass.

https://fox2now.com/2016/02/26/trump-says-he-cant-release-tax-returns-because-of-audits/

“I’m being audited now for two or three years, so I can’t do it ." 
 
Enough...peddle that bu11sh1t to a dumber man.  I appreciate the pathetic reply, but I fear it was a waste of our time.

You really do live in another universe.   

[INVAR]

Trump says he can't release his tax returns
He said he won't. 

That's a LIE.

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[Formerly Once-Ler]

You really do live in another universe.   

Clearly.

[Sanguine]

Clearly.

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Same universe, different planet.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

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Same universe, different planet.

Sorry.  The song isn't my style.  I prefer a harder edged song. 

I know you do what you think you must to prevent something worse.  Keep telling yourself that, but don't think we all see it that way.

[Sanguine]

Sorry.  The song isn't my style.  I prefer a harder edged song. 

I know you do what you think you must to prevent something worse.  Keep telling yourself that, but don't think we all see it that way.

The song does use a gentle and affectionate form of humor and that can be very nice on occasion.

But, you obviously have no idea what I think.  If I were to try to guess your state of mind I would say that your extreme dislike of Trump has warped your perceptions.  But, that's fine, you're entitled to your opinions.  Just don't get all bent out of shape when someone questions your warp.

[Frank Cannon]

 
Enough...peddle that bu11sh1t to a dumber man.

Didn't know there was such a thing. Then again I saw a heroin addict get so doped up down town last week he fell over and rolled into traffic. You may be smarter than him, but that is debatable.

[Chosen Daughter]

And they never will, because BOTH parties - BOTH sides the aisle in Government WANT- let me repeat - WANT open borders because BOTH the Republican Oligarchy and the Leftists see a desperate need to flood the country with illiterate squatters.

Because BOTH want to replace the existing white majority population - albeit for different reasons.

The Left wants the white majority replaced because they know that third world squatters are already conditioned to be dependent upon government, will do what they are told, and will keep corruptocrat Leftist/Socialists in power for perpetuity as long as they keep them in provisions, even if they are meager.  Like the Left, third world invaders have no allegiance to the country and no desire to shed their cultural identity to become American, as they despise American culture as much as the Left does. The Left see them as their future for total power in Socialism/Communism that they are already disposed to.

The Republicans, beholden to the Chamber of Commerce want cheap labor existing outside the regulations that strangle above-board businesses.  They also recognize the negative replacement birthright among Americans and see embracing third world squatters as their only answer to keep the SoSec ponzi scheme and government programs afloat before they implode over an aging population no longer paying into the general fund whereby  it takes a dozen workers to pay for the benefits of just one SoSec/Welfare recipient and it will require a 95% tax rate on all workers just to keep benefits current at existing levels.

There is no willpower in government to secure the borders, the only willpower that government has is to open them further because Republicans, Leftists and Democrats know and understand that open borders means money, power and control of the people in the future.

Thank you for the honest assessment.  I wonder how all those folks are going to feel after Trump has come and gone and there are millions more illegal immigrants?  They will probably realize that they were suckers.  Reason why I didn't vote for Trump.  Never believed he was going to build the wall and make Mexico pay for it.  Never believed he would "lock her up" Hillary.  Why would he they are friends?

He's done a few things.  One thing he is great at is slamming his own appointments like Jeff Sessions and General Mattis.

Jeff Sessions fighting for secure borders.

https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/new-mexico/articles/2018-04-11/sessions-to-address-immigration-at-border-sheriffs-meeting



[url=https://dailycaller.com/2018/02/12/jeff-sessions-ms-13-crush/]https://dailycaller.com/2018/02/12/jeff-sessions-ms-13-crush/

[Formerly Once-Ler]

But, you obviously have no idea what I think.  If I were to try to guess your state of mind I would say that your extreme dislike of Trump has warped your perceptions.  But, that's fine, you're entitled to your opinions.  Just don't get all bent out of shape when someone questions your warp.

and I'd say anyone trying to convince me Trump is honest...
well it's not flattering.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Didn't know there was such a thing. Then again I saw a heroin addict get so doped up down town last week he fell over and rolled into traffic. You may be smarter than him, but that is debatable.

I almost never see heroin addicts.  You must lead an exciting home life @Frank Cannon

Ask yourself why I should give a damn who YOU think is smart?  The topic is Trump's honesty.  Tell me he is God again assclown.

[Frank Cannon]

I almost never see heroin addicts.  You must lead an exciting home life @Frank Cannon

Ask yourself why I should give a damn who YOU think is smart?  The topic is Trump's honesty.  Tell me he is God again assclown.

First off you are the one who wanted the poster to comment to dumber people. I was just pointing out that there might not be such a person. Secondly being a Land Baron has me acquiring property not only in pleasant sections of the country but also places more your speed. Lastly.......

Trump Is GOD!!!!!!!!!

[libertybele]

and I'd say anyone trying to convince me Trump is honest...
well it's not flattering.

The article doesn't say he is honest, but rather one of the most honest.  Big difference.

[Absalom]

And they never will, because BOTH parties - BOTH sides the aisle in Government WANT- let me repeat - WANT open borders because BOTH the Republican Oligarchy and the Leftists see a desperate need to flood the country with illiterate squatters.

Because BOTH want to replace the existing white majority population - albeit for different reasons.

The Left wants the white majority replaced because they know that third world squatters are already conditioned to be dependent upon government, will do what they are told, and will keep corruptocrat Leftist/Socialists in power for perpetuity as long as they keep them in provisions, even if they are meager.  Like the Left, third world invaders have no allegiance to the country and no desire to shed their cultural identity to become American, as they despise American culture as much as the Left does. The Left see them as their future for total power in Socialism/Communism that they are already disposed to.

The Republicans, beholden to the Chamber of Commerce want cheap labor existing outside the regulations that strangle above-board businesses.  They also recognize the negative replacement birthright among Americans and see embracing third world squatters as their only answer to keep the SoSec ponzi scheme and government programs afloat before they implode over an aging population no longer paying into the general fund whereby  it takes a dozen workers to pay for the benefits of just one SoSec/Welfare recipient and it will require a 95% tax rate on all workers just to keep benefits current at existing levels.

There is no willpower in government to secure the borders, the only willpower that government has is to open them further because Republicans, Leftists and Democrats know and understand that open borders means money, power and control of the people in the future.

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Your core assessment is on target w/one caveat.
There is no distinction between the parties as
both are fundamentally corrupt and w/o principle.

[INVAR]

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Your core assessment is on target w/one caveat.
There is no distinction between the parties as
both are fundamentally corrupt and w/o principle.

That is an automatic given in my estimation. 

Sadly you and I are in the minority of opinion on that score.

[Emjay]

First off you are the one who wanted the poster to comment to dumber people. I was just pointing out that there might not be such a person. Secondly being a Land Baron has me acquiring property not only in pleasant sections of the country but also places more your speed. Lastly.......

Trump Is GOD!!!!!!!!!

Thank you, @Frank Cannon ... even though you jumped up my butt yesterday, you are one of my favorite people here.  A beacon of light in a fog of stupidity.  I get really sick and tired of all the losers and downers who insist on posting here.

[DCPatriot]

Thank you, @Frank Cannon ... even though you jumped up my butt yesterday, you are one of my favorite people here.  A beacon of light in a fog of stupidity.  I get really sick and tired of all the losers and downers who insist on posting here.

LOL!   "Beacon of Light in a fog of stupidity"?

...more like a high pressure hose cleaning the shit off the walls and floors.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

The topic is Trump's honesty.  Tell me he is God again assclown.

Trump Is GOD!!!!!!!!!

Good Boy!

[Emjay]

LOL!   "Beacon of Light in a fog of stupidity"?

...more like a high pressure hose cleaning the shit off the walls and floors.

Either way, it works for me, DCPatriot, but yours is a far better analogy.

[catfish1957]

I'm going to miss Trump too when he is imprisoned.

I don't like insulting a clown suffering from narcissism, Alzheimer's, and syphilis,  but it has kept me endlessly entertained for the 2 last year.  When Trump said a hurricane was the wettest in history, and he said had "the best words," and "I'm really smart..."  hilarious

???

In this age of medical marvels, how does anyone in a 1st world country suffer from syphillis?

This is the first I've heard of this.

[corbe]

   It would certainly explain the Tannings because taking all that mercury to cure syphilis makes you turn blue, a dead giveaway of your malady.

[Emjay]

   It would certainly explain the Tannings because taking all that mercury to cure syphilis makes you turn blue, a dead giveaway of your malady.

Blue? @corbe  Haven't you been saying he's orange??  I don't think Trump uses any tanning products.  He plays a lot of golf and his face naturally gets tan, but it tans with a slightly orange hue.  My daddy gardened all the time and he was very tan, but it was a deep red tan.  He always claimed Indian heritage, even though he wasn't running for office.