Trump Urges GOP To Consider A 25-Cent Hike In The Gas Tax

[catfish1957]

Maybe thats so, but its not at all clear in this writing. The article itself is carefully worded and does not support the headline. Even the link supposedly supporting the narrative is based upon a 'source requesting anonymity'.

It may turn out to be true, its just that we've seen this same bullsh*t tactic used by the media so many times before.

I think it was a dim hit piece just to try to reverse all their bad news lately.

[txradioguy]

Whatever is needed to fund the legitimate costs of government.   Do you seriously contend that roads and bridges don't need to be maintained?    You want the goodies but don't want to pay the taxes.  That is neither responsible nor conservative.   

The legitimate costs...the honest to God things the Federal Government is supposed to provide for is a fraction of the fraud waste and abuse of taxpayer funds that emanates from DC today.

I don't want "goodies"...I don't want "freebies".  I want to keep more of every dollar I work for than the Government takes from my pocket before it ever hits my bank or my gas tank.

Roads and bridges at the lowest level are a city/county/state function.  Not a Federal one.

[catfish1957]

He also proposed an intergalactic military force. He proposes lots of shit. Most of it goes nowhere. This article is claiming his is actively pushing this. I don't see it. That's why this rumor is relegated to some Communist rag.

I don't disagree.  In fact I am leaning that this is a dim hit piece due timing and the mere fact this is a way to influence the election. 

But OTOH...   this one does have some plausibility based on prior DJT comments.   This pie in the sky infrastructure proposal has to be paid by someone.

[Jazzhead]

The legitimate costs...the honest to God things the Federal Government is supposed to provide for is a fraction of the fraud waste and abuse of taxpayer funds that emanates from DC today.

I don't want "goodies"...I don't want "freebies".  I want to keep more of every dollar I work for than the Government takes from my pocket before it ever hits my bank or my gas tank.

No you don't.  You're selfish.   You want good roads and bridges but you don't want to pay for them.    Again - a tax on gas for the repair of roads is an efficient way of getting monies from those who directly benefit from such roads.   

Roads and bridges at the lowest level are a city/county/state function.  Not a Federal one.

Not necessarily.   The flow of interstate commerce - and the strength of the national economy - depends on good roads.   It is a shared responsibility between the federal and state/local governments.   

[txradioguy]

No you don't.  You're selfish.   You want good roads and bridges but you don't want to pay for them.    Again - a tax on gas for the repair of roads is an efficient way of getting monies from those who directly benefit from such roads.

That's such a simplistic Liberal take on the situation.  Guess I shouldn't be surprised it appeals to you.

That's like saying if you don't believe in Global Warming you hate the environment.

Both are equally simplistic...equally false and equally stupid ways to equate things.
 

Not necessarily.   The flow of interstate commerce - and the strength of the national economy - depends on good roads.   It is a shared responsibility between the federal and state/local governments.

That's commerce...not roads.  Point to me where someone can sign up for a Federal road or bridge construction crew?

Last I checked neither Commerce nor Transportation has such entities.  All they do is dole out money to the states who have the highway departments and the workers that build and repair roads and bridges.

And that is money that the states should and could generate on their own via state budgets and not take "freebies" from the Federal government.

[libertybele]

I think it was a dim hit piece just to try to reverse all their bad news lately.

Agreed.  Otherwise Trump is slitting the throats of those trying to keep their seats in the House and Senate.

[txradioguy]

Agreed.  Otherwise Trump is slitting the throats of those trying to keep their seats in the House and Senate.

But sadly as has been pointed out...this isn't the first time he's made this proposal...he been periodically floating the idea for two years now.

[libertybele]

But sadly as has been pointed out...this isn't the first time he's made this proposal...he been periodically floating the idea for two years now.

I believe you may be right as I recall this was an issue that came up when he was gloating about putting more $$ in people's paychecks.  Receiving more money becomes a mute issue if the costs of goods, gas/oil, and inflation rise.

[txradioguy]

I believe you may be right as I recall this was an issue that came up when he was gloating about putting more $$ in people's paychecks.  Receiving more money becomes a mute issue if the costs of goods, gas/oil, and inflation rise.

Exactly.  The last thing he should do right as the economy is beginning to take off is take back any of the money he put back in American's wallets with the tax cut.

[libertybele]

Exactly.  The last thing he should do right as the economy is beginning to take off is take back any of the money he put back in American's wallets with the tax cut.

This is yet another issue that I question Trump's motive(s).  He's not stupid by any means and thinks well ahead and calculates his next move.  He's usually one step ahead of those who are trying to take him down (or so it appears that way).

[Silver Pines]

    Damn, Is it Infrastructure week, already?

Lol

[INVAR]

How much more do you think is "enough" taxes on people?

Whatever is needed to fund the legitimate costs of government.

And yet there are people here who insist that I am the resident Marxist/Communist because I won't seal-clap Trump.

[Machiavelli]

This story is actually 8 months old. WTG, Eco News.

[Silver Pines]

No you don't.  You're selfish.   You want good roads and bridges but you don't want to pay for them.    Again - a tax on gas for the repair of roads is an efficient way of getting monies from those who directly benefit from such roads.   
 

Not necessarily.   The flow of interstate commerce - and the strength of the national economy - depends on good roads.   It is a shared responsibility between the federal and state/local governments.

@Jazzhead

I'm selfish as hell.  I want the money my husband works his butt off for to stay in our pockets.  If I have to deal with potholes, so be it.

No, let me correct myself, because that's not accurate.  I'm not selfish.  We give to charity.  The government has no right to our money.

[Smokin Joe]

It is a good and Conservative thing to pay for needed things, rather than just increasing the deficit.     

It is good and Conservative thing to maintain roads and bridges for the benefit of the national economy.

It is a good and Conservative thing for needed infrastructure to be paid for by the folks who use and directly benefit from that infrastructure.

I support a reasonable increase in the gas tax, provided the funds are dedicated to the repair of infrastructure used by motor vehicles, and that contractors are not limited by artificial rules benefiting unions that unnecessarily inflate costs.   

It is a regressive tax, especially aimed at those who live in rural areas where there is no alternative. Add 5% more ethanol (which reduces mileage) and raise the tax, too?

What happened to the taxes already collected?

I'm Taxed Enough Already, thanks. Gas here is $3 a gallon already, and walking far in our winters is not an option.

[Jazzhead]

It is a regressive tax, especially aimed at those who live in rural areas where there is no alternative. Add 5% more ethanol (which reduces mileage) and raise the tax, too?

What happened to the taxes already collected?

I'm Taxed Enough Already, thanks. Gas here is $3 a gallon already, and walking far in our winters is not an option.

Are you saying the cost of maintaining roads shouldn't be borne by those who use roads?    You want to spread the costs to those who don't, or just pass the buck to the next generation?

It is entirely consistent with conservatism to fund a legitimate expense of government both currently and by levies targeted to those who make use of roads. 

[RoosGirl]

Are you saying the cost of maintaining roads shouldn't be borne by those who use roads?    You want to spread the costs to those who don't, or just pass the buck to the next generation?

It is entirely consistent with conservatism to fund a legitimate expense of government both currently and by levies targeted to those who make use of roads.

Hey, you know who is in charge of maintaining, permitting and building interstates in Florida?  The Florida Department of Transportation.  Now, why should the Feds be collecting money from Oregon to pay for highways in Florida that are already "owned" by FDOT?

[Smokin Joe]

Are you saying the cost of maintaining roads shouldn't be borne by those who use roads?    You want to spread the costs to those who don't, or just pass the buck to the next generation?

It is entirely consistent with conservatism to fund a legitimate expense of government both currently and by levies targeted to those who make use of roads.

I'm already paying 38.5 dents per gallon, and enduring the ethanol surcharge (we all pay in reduced mileage and fuel system damage) to fuel special interests and union road contractors in a Right to Work state.

Give me the materials and I'll fill in the local chuck holes myself. I know how to use a shovel.

In short, I am already paying for the maintenance of roads. Ir is the less than efficient use of those funds which has led to the problems with highways and infrastructure.

[Frank Cannon]

Hey, you know who is in charge of maintaining, permitting and building interstates in Florida?  The Florida Department of Transportation.  Now, why should the Feds be collecting money from Oregon to pay for highways in Florida that are already "owned" by FDOT?

I don't like the idea of FL taking money from OR to fix roads. You should take it from IA. They are a bunch of shitbags.

[RoosGirl]

I don't like the idea of FL taking money from OR to fix roads. You should take it from IA. They are a bunch of shitbags.

I think people like @Jazzhead should put their money where their mouth is and pay more income tax than is required so he can help fund our state FDOT.

[Frank Cannon]

I think people like @Jazzhead should put their money where their mouth is and pay more income tax than is required so he can help fund our state FDOT.

I think it is illegal for 12 year olds to work a real job, but I might be wrong. There may be a section on the 1040 EZ for allowances.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

This story is actually 8 months old. WTG, Eco News.

Yup. From Feb 14, 2018

Eco News. On The Frontline For Earth Liberation.

After the wholesale mugging the Rats just gave themselves trying to destroy Kavanaugh?

Excuse me, at least till I stop laughing.

[Sighlass]

“To my surprise, President Trump, today in our meeting, offered his support for raising the gas and diesel tax by 25 cents a gallon and dedicating that money to improve our roads, highways and bridges,” said Sen. Thomas R. Carper (D-Del.), who attended the meeting. 

The article makes it sound like this is a new retry by Trump for the tax recently, but that quote from Thomas Carper is 8 months ago. So yeah, this is an old article trying to be respun.

This EcoNews is a shotty operation if this is an example of their reporting (fake news of re-spinning something months later). Fair game the first time around, but this is just BS.

[Jazzhead]

I think people like @Jazzhead should put their money where their mouth is and pay more income tax than is required so he can help fund our state FDOT.

I drive, everyday.   I am willing to pay higher gas taxes if dedicated to maintaining the roads and bridges that let me get to work, to the Jersey Shore,  and elsewhere.

I find it hard to believe that anyone believes it is not a proper function of government to maintain public roads.   The Constitution's commerce clause clearly permits a federal role,  for there's few things that grease the wheels of interstate commerce more than our system of roads.

And what form of taxation is more fair than a tax on users of public facilities?    A gas tax won't impact you, @RoosGirl , if you don't drive.   If you do,  then be willing to pay for services that government provides you that allow you to get where you need to go. 

We're not talking socialism here, folks, with the many being taxed for social schemes that benefit the few.    User fees - which is essentially what a gas tax is - were contemplated by the Founders.    You drive,  you benefit from the roads, you help pay for their upkeep.    That's as conservative a notion of fair and equitable taxation as I can think of. 
 

[Frank Cannon]

Yup. From Feb 14, 2018

Eco News. On The Frontline For Earth Liberation.

After the wholesale mugging the Rats just gave themselves trying to destroy Kavanaugh?

Excuse me, at least till I stop laughing.

So everything old is really new again.