Ted Cruz Finally Shuts The Door On The Bad Blood Controversy Between He And Trump

[libertybele]

I meant Cruz was facing re-election in a couple of years from the presidential election in 2016.

...and what good what it do the country if he as one of the most conservative senators would have fought him?  The two have very similar agendas and Cruz didn't just change his agenda or principles on key issues just to appease the Trumpsters.

[bilo]

No. The greater enemy is the one within the gate.

I guess that would be you.

I'm more than willing to support Pubs who will work with Trump to try and push forward a conservative America First agenda. I will compromise where I have to instead of wasting everyone's time demanding 100% purity. The alternative is frightening. If you haven't been looking we are seeing an intolerant left becoming a violent, socialist left that does not believe in individual liberties, especially freedom of speech. 

[Applewood]

...and what good what it do the country if he as one of the most conservative senators would have fought him?  The two have very similar agendas and Cruz didn't just change his agenda or principles on key issues just to appease the Trumpsters.

Trump made a lot of campaign promises that sounded like they would be the same as what Cruz wanted.  But I haven't seen progress in fulfilling those promises. 

[bilo]

   I see a different 'Big Picture' @Emjay and "The enemy is out there" begs the question 'Why have you Trumpers busted my balls for the last 20 months?   I am not your enemy.

You know what you're right! You are not the enemy. We are well past the time that the Trump "fan boys" and "never Trumpers" need to focus their anger on the left. After we win that war we can go back to fighting each other. I regularly see both sides "poking the bear", maybe we should stop.

[Emjay]

   It's not lost on me @Emjay that you loved me much moore when you didn't take me so seriously.   

If I took you seriously, corbe, I'd have to kill myself.  You still haven't explained the NDA thingee.

[Emjay]

Trump made a lot of campaign promises that sounded like they would be the same as what Cruz wanted.  But I haven't seen progress in fulfilling those promises.

Well, I posted a long essay two days ago outlining all of Trump's actual accomplishments.  It was pretty impressive.  Guess you didn't read it.

[Emjay]

I guess that would be you.

I'm more than willing to support Pubs who will work with Trump to try and push forward a conservative America First agenda. I will compromise where I have to instead of wasting everyone's time demanding 100% purity. The alternative is frightening. If you haven't been looking we are seeing an intolerant left becoming a violent, socialist left that does not believe in individual liberties, especially freedom of speech.

@bilo   Yes.  Why won't these NTers give up their petty grievances and focus on the real and frightening enemy.  As you say, it's become a violent, socialist left that glorifies every perversion available to man, woman, or IT.

And stops at nothing to gain their ends.  Just look at this ridiculous delay on the Kavanaugh vote engineered by DiFi and a willing accomplice.

[TomSea]

That's just what happens in campaigns, I've read about during this campaign, some material sent out by the Cruz campaign looking like summons to appear:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/msn/ted-cruz-solicits-campaign-donations-with-summons-enclosed-mailer/ar-BBNtp9J

I can't believe their campaign is still doing stuff like this. But as for the campaign of 2 years ago, it's not a gentlemanly sport, you have one campaign saying Rubio was dropping out in Hawaii, Carson in Iowa, Kasich getting Soros money, Rubio saying something he didn't about the Bible. Why detail all of this? These are tricks that happened, no big deal.

[austingirl]

Cruz explains better than any one of us who once supported him why we now support the president

 

[TomSea]

Cruz explains better than any one of us who once supported him why we now support the president

Don't expect any a lot of his alleged supporters to agree with this along with the seemingly dozens of other issues out there. In fact, I think it's more likely for them to treat someone, well, let's be respectful, not too well.

[dfwgator]

Don't expect any a lot of his alleged supporters to agree with this along with the seemingly dozens of other issues out there. In fact, I think it's more likely for them to treat someone, well, let's be respectful, not too well.

I supported Cruz in the Primary, but I am glad that Trump is in the White House.

We need Trump in the White House, and Cruz in the Senate.

[TomSea]

The bad blood may be with TOS really, I've illustrated how I supported Cruz in that daily poll they had running besides the primary. It seems some upset with Trump are upset with TOS. Some of their remarks over there likewise, are way over-the-top but I don't really participate in those threads. A lot of good people and a lot of sticks in the mud over there.

[Applewood]

Well, I posted a long essay two days ago outlining all of Trump's actual accomplishments.  It was pretty impressive.  Guess you didn't read it.

Was it anything like that lengthy list of "accomplishments" Legal American posted that was more like wishful thinking than accomplishments? If so, glad I didn't.

[roamer_1]

I guess that would be you.

Right. Because the guy standing upon the principles that are supposed to e the point of unity is the guy in the way. The betrayer.  Are you listening to yourself?

I'm more than willing to support Pubs who will work with Trump to try and push forward a conservative America First agenda. I will compromise where I have to instead of wasting everyone's time demanding 100% purity. The alternative is frightening. If you haven't been looking we are seeing an intolerant left becoming a violent, socialist left that does not believe in individual liberties, especially freedom of speech.

What you are describing is an equally intolerant right, that is equally unmoored from any guiding principle, as shown by your playing the 'purity' card. Conservatism becomes whatever s the popular whim at the time... Be careful you don't become exactly what you are fighting against.

As for me, NO. I will not move. If you care to sally forth, be on your way. Just don't call it Conservatism, because by definition, it is not.
 

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Cruz responded with force, answering that there is more to politics than personal rivalries and hurt feelings. He noted that he very well could have become an anti-Trump Senator, but that his job was more important than any insults and rivalries, choosing instead to work with Trump to pass monumental legislation that created great economic opportunities:

@INVAR

@roamer_1

@Once-Ler

I watched the debate.  I even posted the youtube video in the live thread.  Senator Cruz is correct that his job is more important than the things President Trump called Senator Cruz's wife and father.  Cruz is a bigger man than me, because I have not forgiven Trump for those.

Senator Cruz believes there is something left in the GOP worth fighting for.  "Stand for the national anthem," "don't burn the flag," and "honor the police even when they kill their neighbors by mistake," were all big applause lines in TX.  Senator Cruz did not do as well on the issues of reckless spending, tariffs, repealing Obamacare, and ending Planned Parenthood subsidies.

By every measure I saw Senator Cruz beat Beto.  Passionate delivery, speaking to the level of the audience, cadence and dramatic pauses, body language, and superior message all fall in Cruz's favor...but a republican beating a rat on messaging is no longer enough for me...It's like being the prettiest waitress at Denny's.  I still ain't taking her home.     

[Formerly Once-Ler]

   The holdup is Ted refuses to sign a NDA.

I got the joke right away.

[roamer_1]

Cruz is a bigger man than me, because I have not forgiven Trump for those.

Those things are not the point... Long gone.

THAT he did those things is the point. That he acts so unconscionably is not a matter of forgiveness as it is a matter of extreme caution.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Those things are not the point... Long gone.

THAT he did those things is the point. That he acts so unconscionably is not a matter of forgiveness as it is a matter of extreme caution.

That's a better point than what I expressed.

[TomSea]

Yeah, and the Cruz campaign committed all kinds of dirty tricks in state after state, too many to say "oh, but Ted didn't do it".

Lying about what Rubio said about the word of God, the Bible, saying Kasich was taking Soros money, claiming Carson first and then, Rubio later, were dropping out. Hey, that's different.

It's not different and the deal is that this happened a lot, not just some statement one can point at by Trump, some statement or numerous, I don't know where the red line is. So, again, those not agreeing with Cruz here, (surprise)  have no moral authority on this.

@Once-Ler

And again, to the best they can, they have done a lot for the pro-life struggle. Others left that struggle but talk about being "pro-life", yeah, right.  Because the bigger picture is more important.

[Sanguine]

Yeah, and the Cruz campaign committed all kinds of dirty tricks in state after state, too many to say "oh, but Ted didn't do it".

Lying about what Rubio said about the word of God, the Bible, saying Kasich was taking Soros money, claiming Carson first and then, Rubio later, were dropping out. Hey, that's different.

It's not different and the deal is that this happened a lot, not just some statement one can point at by Trump, some statement or numerous, I don't know where the red line is. So, again, those not agreeing with Cruz here, (surprise)  have no moral authority on this.

And, you were doing moderately well, Tom, and then you veered out into lala land.

[TomSea]

Sean Gallitz and Katiana Krawchenko CBS News February 22, 2016, 3:39 PM
Cruz asks spokesman to resign after video showed Rubio mocking Bible
Last Updated Feb 22, 2016 5:08 PM EST

Sen. Ted Cruz on Monday announced that he had asked his spokesman Rick Tyler to resign that morning after his campaign pushed a video that made it appear like Sen. Marco Rubio was mocking a Cruz staffer's bible.

"This morning, I asked for Rick Tyler's resignation," Cruz told reporters. "I have made clear in this campaign we will conduct this campaign with the very highest standards and integrity."

Rubio lashed out against the Cruz campaign Monday morning for the video that shows him walking past a Cruz staffer reading the Bible and according to the on-screen text, telling that staffer there are "not many answers" in the Scripture he was reading.

Read more at: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/marco-rubio-calls-for-accountability-from-cruz-campaign/

Cruz camp claimed Rubio insulted Bible.

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Don't come at me with some moral authority on this.....

[Cyber Liberty]

Ted Cruz Finally Shuts The Door On The Bad Blood Controversy Between He And Trump

I'd love to meet the fool who wrote this headline.  I have a bridge to sell him in Brooklyn.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

@Once-Ler

I read your post.  I understand your points about Cruz's tactics during the primaries.  IMO opinion they were wrong, much less egregious than insulting Cruz's wife and father.

I also understand your assessment of the issue of abortion and President Trump.  It's a more evolved and mature position than "President Trump is the most pro-life President in History."  Certainly more defensible.  I feel frustrated that the GOP controls both chambers of Congress and the Whitehouse for 2 years, passes multiple overfunded budgets, and never once tried to fight PP.  We can both be right.  You can believe they may have done "the best they can," and I believe it's not enough. 

Good post, good points, I appreciate the opportunity to clarify my position.

[Emjay]

I supported Cruz in the Primary, but I am glad that Trump is in the White House.

We need Trump in the White House, and Cruz in the Senate.

I agree.

[Chosen Daughter]

I watched the debate.  I even posted the youtube video in the live thread.  Senator Cruz is correct that his job is more important than the things President Trump called Senator Cruz's wife and father.  Cruz is a bigger man than me, because I have not forgiven Trump for those.

Senator Cruz believes there is something left in the GOP worth fighting for.  "Stand for the national anthem," "don't burn the flag," and "honor the police even when they kill their neighbors by mistake," were all big applause lines in TX.  Senator Cruz did not do as well on the issues of reckless spending, tariffs, repealing Obamacare, and ending Planned Parenthood subsidies.

By every measure I saw Senator Cruz beat Beto.  Passionate delivery, speaking to the level of the audience, cadence and dramatic pauses, body language, and superior message all fall in Cruz's favor...but a republican beating a rat on messaging is no longer enough for me...It's like being the prettiest waitress at Denny's.  I still ain't taking her home.   

I think Cruz is better at "art of the deal" than Trump.  Power of persuasion.  I didn't hear that we should worship Trump and never criticize him when he does something wrong.  Today I am happy because I read they are working on immigration.  They are no longer going to approve green cards for people who have been on public assistance.  Good Trump.  People will be paying attention.  The gravy train could be coming to a halt.

So I can appreciate, and also criticize.  Like spending bills.  Did Cruz vote for that?  If he did then I will criticize him too.