From Mollie Tibbetts' father: Don't distort her death to advance racist views

[MK ULTRA]

Molly Tibbets was not a victim - so sez her typical brain dead liberal daddy.

https://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/opinion/columnists/2018/09/01/mollie-tibbetts-father-common-decency-immigration-heartless-despicable-donald-trump-jr-column/1163131002/

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[goatprairie]

Reading the comments under the column, it appears many liberals are still going with the "this could have happened to anyone" kind of "logic" purporting to believe that Mollie Tibbetts's murder was just a typical homicide.
It is infuriating that liberals pretend to not know the consequences of their refusal to promote tougher immigration laws.

[DCPatriot]

Reading the comments under the column, it appears many liberals are still going with the "this could have happened to anyone" kind of "logic" purporting to believe that Mollie Tibbetts's murder was just a typical homicide.
It is infuriating that liberals pretend to not know the consequences of their refusal to promote tougher immigration laws.

Butterfly Effect.

If immigration laws were taken seriously, Mollie would be alive today.

[skeeter]

This father has my respect and deepest sympathy.

But he cannot dictate to me the conclusions I draw from his daughter's killing.

[truth_seeker]

"Illegal" is not a race.

Liberals are once again, too stupid to trust with national or border security.

Same applies to Bush-McCain-#neverTrump Republicans.

[Applewood]

Had sympathy for Mollie's loved ones.  Don't now.  It's a waste of time to be sympathetic toward stupid people.

[DCPatriot]

"Illegal" is not a race.

Liberals are once again, too stupid to trust with national or border security.

Same applies to Bush-McCain-#neverTrump Republicans.

Truth.   

...now watch somebody run in to tell us they're not "Republicans"...they're Conservatives.

Also, "stupid" they're not.   There's something else rattling around in there.

BTW...seems to me a normal thing to say, for any father of a 20 year old murdered daughter.  Especially one in a country that depends on illegal alien labor.

Always keep in mind that the government supports this.  Doesn't happen in a vacuum.

[goodwithagun]

This imbecile couldn’t be more wrong. Neither Mexican nor Hispanic are a race. Furthermore, just because he’s not upset about the legal status of his daughter’s murderer doesn’t mean that I have to feel the same way as the mother of my kids.

[DCPatriot]

This imbecile couldn’t be more wrong. Neither Mexican nor Hispanic are a race. Furthermore, just because he’s not upset about the legal status of his daughter’s murderer doesn’t mean that I have to feel the same way as the mother of my kids.

So...picture this.

Mollie's immediate circle-of influence consisted of many friends and acquaintances who are "illegal immigrants".

Some of them are stars on the school football or baseball teams.  They've been inside his house [gasp]

Just trying to add a bit of context here.   

[mountaineer]

This father has my respect and deepest sympathy.

But he cannot dictate to me the conclusions I draw from his daughter's killing.

Indeed. Liberals' insistence on telling the rest of us how to think and what to do is quite tiresome.

[goodwithagun]

So...picture this.

Mollie's immediate circle-of influence consisted of many friends and acquaintances who are "illegal immigrants".

Some of them are stars on the school football or baseball teams.  They've been inside his house [gasp]

Just trying to add a bit of context here.   

It’s his daughter so he’s more than free to feel as he does. My kids are just that: my kids. I am just as free to insist on their safety by blocking people from entering our country illegally. He can spout off about racism all he wants but he’s still wrong. Hispanic isn’t a race. Mexican isn’t a race.

[musiclady]

This imbecile couldn’t be more wrong. Neither Mexican nor Hispanic are a race. Furthermore, just because he’s not upset about the legal status of his daughter’s murderer doesn’t mean that I have to feel the same way as the mother of my kids.

Amen!

[Wingnut]

I read somewhere that Mollie's dad got his illegal maid back in CA preggers and they were just married in June. 

It is probably just a viscous rumor.

[MK ULTRA]

I liked the part about Molly being her dad's best friend.

Why is it of such major importance to parents that they be 'best friends' with their children? Imo, that's not part of 'parenting'.

[DCPatriot]

I liked the part about Molly being her dad's best friend.

Why is it of such major importance to parents that they be 'best friends' with their children? Imo, that's not part of 'parenting'.

Geez....tough crowd today.

Do you have adult children?

There comes a day when you look at them and realize that the only way to maintain that bond/love is become the best of friends.

Not strange when speaking about a daughter moving back to college dorm.

[goodwithagun]

I liked the part about Molly being her dad's best friend.

Why is it of such major importance to parents that they be 'best friends' with their children? Imo, that's not part of 'parenting'.

Welcome @MK ULTRA ! Yes, bffs are all the rage now. My husband and I are on the tail end of gen x, but we had kids a little later than most. As a result, our kids’ peers’ parents are mostly millennials. Half of these millennial parents grew up in divorced households, and most of them were Latchkey kids. They make their kids their priority instead of their marriages, and they do everything they can, including going into debt, to make their kids look/feel better than other kids. There’s a lot of living vicariously through kids today. Is really weird.

[Applewood]

I liked the part about Molly being her dad's best friend.

Why is it of such major importance to parents that they be 'best friends' with their children? Imo, that's not part of 'parenting'.

Well, for me it just happened.  I don't remember how old I was, but I had been on my own for a number of years.  I found I could sit around with Dad, shoot the breeze about sports and politics and well, just be chums more than Dad and daughter. 

I agree that if the children are young and dependent upon their parents for their survival, a friendship is probably a bad idea.  But when the kids are fully grown and responsible, nothing wrong with parents and children being buds.

[DCPatriot]

It’s his daughter so he’s more than free to feel as he does. My kids are just that: my kids. I am just as free to insist on their safety by blocking people from entering our country illegally. He can spout off about racism all he wants but he’s still wrong. Hispanic isn’t a race. Mexican isn’t a race.

Come one.

It's impossible for you to empathize because, apparently, your 'world' isn't the same as millions upon millions of other Americans today.

Don't mean than in a condescending way, @goodwithagun

When I was an active agent, I came into contact with illegals everyday.  Sometimes all day. 

I learned early that the government actually appreciated any $$$ the local illegal population was earning.  So as a business owner/independent contractor, it was impossible not to run into them on a daily basis.

In my mind, it was a 'win-win' for everybody.

...but we also got to know them individually.  We made friendships that endure today.

My point is that your surroundings will determine how you feel about illegal immigrants from different perspective.

[skeeter]

Come one.

It's impossible for you to empathize because, apparently, your 'world' isn't the same as millions upon millions of other Americans today.

Don't mean than in a condescending way, @goodwithagun

When I was an active agent, I came into contact with illegals everyday.  Sometimes all day. 

I learned early that the government actually appreciated any $$$ the local illegal population was earning.  So as a business owner/independent contractor, it was impossible not to run into them on a daily basis.

In my mind, it was a 'win-win' for everybody.

...but we also got to know them individually.  We made friendships that endure today.

My point is that your surroundings will determine how you feel about illegal immigrants from different perspective.

I understand completely, for a normal person its impossible not to be affected by personal human interaction.

Thats why we must never forget that the policies which have such a dramatic effect upon society at large must be governed by rational considerations, not the anecdotal and emotional.

[goodwithagun]

Come one.

It's impossible for you to empathize because, apparently, your 'world' isn't the same as millions upon millions of other Americans today.

Don't mean than in a condescending way, @goodwithagun

When I was an active agent, I came into contact with illegals everyday.  Sometimes all day. 

I learned early that the government actually appreciated any $$$ the local illegal population was earning.  So as a business owner/independent contractor, it was impossible not to run into them on a daily basis.

In my mind, it was a 'win-win' for everybody.

...but we also got to know them individually.  We made friendships that endure today.

My point is that your surroundings will determine how you feel about illegal immigrants from different perspective.

Omg. 

[DCPatriot]

I understand completely, for a normal person its impossible not to be affected by personal human interaction.

Thats why we must never forget that the policies which have such a dramatic effect upon society at large must be governed by rational considerations, not the anecdotal and emotional.

That's good, @skeeter

But I'm also thinking about the dozens upon dozens of news outlets trying to get his personal feelings...about the killer's immigration status or ethnicity....that he was 'illegal' and Mexican, etc..

THAT'S when dad says..."Stop distorting....."

[truth_seeker]

Come one.


...but we also got to know them individually.  We made friendships that endure today.

My point is that your surroundings will determine how you feel about illegal immigrants from different perspective.

I try to separate my feelings about the situation  from my feelings about the individual people.

In the 1950s Pres. Eisenhower deported over a million illegal immigrants. Operation Wetback (1954).

Then in 1986 Reagan's "Amnesty" changed the dynamic. Just "be here" Then wait long enough.

Mollie's killer was just waiting, not vetted, among naïve people.

[catfish1957]

This father has my respect and deepest sympathy.

But he cannot dictate to me the conclusions I draw from his daughter's killing.

I find it odd that he can speak to the media.  I would prefer peace and privacy.

[DCPatriot]

I find it odd that he can speak to the media.  I would prefer peace and privacy.

Like I suggested...he's being hounded.  Can't leave his house.

[skeeter]

That's good, @skeeter

But I'm also thinking about the dozens upon dozens of news outlets trying to get his personal feelings...about the killer's immigration status or ethnicity....that he was 'illegal' and Mexican, etc..

THAT'S when dad says..."Stop distorting....."

The logical response then should be ‘respect my privacy and leave me alone’.

‘Stop distorting’ implies a judgment about the message.