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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #100 on: August 29, 2018, 07:39:04 pm »
It is not just the Trump fan bois.   To proclaim one's indifference to the Democratic and Republican parties,  because neither is "pure" enough, is the height of egotism.    No man is an island, and neither is a political ideology.   To make any headway in the real world, conservatives must form coalitions with the like-minded, or similarly minded, and accept incremental progress.   Roamer just wants to sit out in his wilderness and proclaim from his computer from time to time how morally superior he is to the rest of us stuck doing the heavy lifting.   

Well, I for one could care less what he says;  he's disqualified himself by not willing to be part of any solution.

Exactly how I feel...but felt he was worth rescuing...thus the joke about kidnapping him and deprogramming him.    happy77
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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #101 on: August 29, 2018, 07:40:14 pm »
@DCPatriot
LESS government? Where? I still see an overweening federal behemoth, growing every day.
It's a good point. Until the precepts of federalism are enacted, nothing is stopping this feral federal beast. Conservatism starts in civil libertarianism. Foremost, this federal government is our enemy

Lower taxes? What good is that without lower spending? All you are doing is making our grandchildren pay for what you will not. Fiscal conservative principles necessarily dictate BOTH.

'SCOTUS of Constitutionalists' is nothing more than a brag at this time. You will have to show me that in action.

All of Conservatism's unmoving principles have to be applied together. otherwise you have nothing. You fix  rrthreenothing,

You cannot have small government and a progressive high spending fed, 3000 miles away.
You cannot have small government without giving real power to states and counties.
You cannot solve progressivism without addressing moral turpitude.
You cannot have a just military without just cause.
you cannot have civil-libertarianism without a good and moral people.

All of it. Together. or none of it works.

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We didn't get to this place in our history in a day and we aren't going to get back to where we need to be in that time either!
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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #102 on: August 29, 2018, 07:53:59 pm »
@roamer_1

We didn't get to this place in our history in a day and we aren't going to get back to where we need to be in that time either!

I realize that @Bigun , but it must start in the principles, which it is not. If your side just thinks it can streamline BIG GOV and run it more efficiently, then your side is no different at all from the other.

It has to start in somebody realizing that it is the BIG Gov that is the problem, and federalism is the answer. If you don;t start there, you are fixing nothing.

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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #103 on: August 29, 2018, 07:56:02 pm »
So then....if you're not planning on supporting GOP candidates with your vote, WTF are you doing here except to sow discord?

Oh I'm sorry - I thought this was a CONSERVATIVE forum, not a Republican Party Only forum.  And - if criticizing those things harmful and anathema to Conservative principles is 'sowing discord' - then clearly you and your bunch are not what you claim to be.  You are beholden to party and president, not to the principles you pretend to stand for.

are you planning on the Democrat Party to endure and maintain your liberty?

Clearly the Republican Party is not interested in that whatsoever.

Your crowd went nuts when I suggested back in the Summer of 2015 that if they still continued the same POV after the election, you would be nothing short of a forum anarchist.

I was not on this particular forum in 2015 - but I can care less if you think me so.  The fact you repudiate any and all semblance's of Conservatism unless it is folded within the adoration of party and president is nothing short of betrayal to the movement you self-identify yourself as part of.  Many of my posts get the same exact ridicule and scorn you dish out almost verbatim on forums populated by liberal Democrats who despise the very same principles and morality that you do.

You offer no pragmatic solutions to anything.   You're a dangerous zealot.  You give Conservatives a bad name.

Conservatism works every time it is tried, and yet you and yours have stated on numerous occasions that those principles are losers and they cannot win elections anymore.  And in concert with your liberal/Leftists/beltway 'Republicans' - you join their chorus that says we're dangerous zealots.

So I'll thank you for the compliment.

If you're not part of the solution, you're part of the problem.

Practicing insanity is not a solution - it only exacerbates the problem.  And if people refusing to practice insanity are the problem, then we have already moved into tyranny's hard phase in spirit and all that remains is to implement government actions to deal with us malcontents.
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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #104 on: August 29, 2018, 07:56:59 pm »
Roamer just wants to sit out in his wilderness and proclaim from his computer from time to time how morally superior he is to the rest of us stuck doing the heavy lifting.   

Well, I for one could care less what he says;  he's disqualified himself by not willing to be part of any solution.

Oh horseshit, @Jazzhead , I am just not willing to participate in YOUR solution, ya bunch of friggin lemmings. Start singing Conservatism and I will come arunnin. But you and I both know that is not going to happen.

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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #105 on: August 29, 2018, 08:14:26 pm »
Oh horseshit, @Jazzhead , I am just not willing to participate in YOUR solution, ya bunch of friggin lemmings. Start singing Conservatism and I will come arunnin. But you and I both know that is not going to happen.

Ever since I saw a 'different' side of you on that gender thread and the manner you conducted yourself, I've given you 2nd and 3rd looks.

The USA isn't all Big Sky Country, @roamer_1

...even though we all wish it was.

I won't start with you, because I don't have the stamina.  Nor the interest, really.

You have to be willing to give a little before you can win something.
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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #106 on: August 29, 2018, 08:25:47 pm »
"Mirror, mirror on the Wall."

"Who is the purest, of them All?"

"Surely not the one, wanting the Wall."


He didn't study political purity in Professor Sassey's classes at Jane Fonda University."

New book by Bill Kristol and George Wll, names Evan McMullin the purest, of All.





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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #107 on: August 29, 2018, 08:28:53 pm »
You have to be willing to give a little before you can win something.

And the Republican party and it's plantation slaves have done that for decades until they have given everything away, including their empty claim to be an opposition party and are become no longer discernible in difference to Democrats.

So congrats, you and your party have emptied yourselves of everything in order to experience the temporal emotion of 'winning'.
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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #108 on: August 29, 2018, 08:35:14 pm »
I realize that @Bigun , but it must start in the principles, which it is not. If your side just thinks it can streamline BIG GOV and run it more efficiently, then your side is no different at all from the other.

It has to start in somebody realizing that it is the BIG Gov that is the problem, and federalism is the answer. If you don;t start there, you are fixing nothing.

@roamer_1

Let me tell you something my friend.  The ONLY team I have ever played for is the same one YOU are on! I literally cried when LBJ was pronounced the winner over Barry Goldwater because, even at my young age at the time, I somehow KNEW that was going to lead to unmitigated disaster for this country and time has more than proven my instincts correct. 

WE have to start somewhere and I see this President moving the ball in our direction - more so than any we've seen since Reagan in fact - even though I resisted his election with everything I had. For so long as he continues to do that,  I'm going to do everything I know how to help.  You can, of course, do as you please.
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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #109 on: August 29, 2018, 08:38:08 pm »
@roamer_1

Let me tell you something my friend.  The ONLY team I have ever played for is the same one YOU are on! I literally cried when LBJ was pronounced the winner over Barry Goldwater because, even at my young age at the time, I somehow KNEW that was going to lead to unmitigated disaster for this country and time has more than proven my instincts correct. 

WE have to start somewhere and I see this President moving the ball in our direction - more so than any we've seen since Reagan in fact - even though I resisted his election with everything I had. For so long as he continues to do that,  I'm going to do everything I know how to help.  You can, of course, do as you please.

Thank you, sir!    888high58888
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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #110 on: August 29, 2018, 08:47:45 pm »
Thank you, sir!    888high58888

My country is teetering on the edge and if we go over there will be no getting back.  No time for arguing about the relative merits of the man God chose to send us at this time.
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« Reply #111 on: August 29, 2018, 08:55:31 pm »
My country is teetering on the edge and if we go over there will be no getting back.  No time for arguing about the relative merits of the man God chose to send us at this time.

Indeed! 
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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #112 on: August 29, 2018, 09:02:45 pm »
@roamer_1

 I see this President moving the ball in our direction - more so than any we've seen since Reagan


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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #113 on: August 29, 2018, 10:16:02 pm »
I urge the sublimation of egos to the goal of the common good.     

@Jazzhead
That’s just like when you urge the sublimation of our rights to achieve your defintion of the common good. 
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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #114 on: August 29, 2018, 10:18:44 pm »
That’s just like when you urge the sublimation of our rights to achieve your defintion of the common good.

Well, the 'common good' is arbitrary dontchaknow?
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« Reply #115 on: August 29, 2018, 10:22:38 pm »
Well, the 'common good' is arbitrary dontchaknow?

You're a screw driver in an allen wrench world, @INVAR
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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #116 on: August 29, 2018, 10:28:11 pm »
    And you my Friend are a Hammer, unfortunately, everything looks like a Nail.
    It's a wash.
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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #117 on: August 29, 2018, 10:32:22 pm »
Well @DCPatriot the rest of your ilk have run off...I for one would still like to hear your comment to my post on page 1 of this thread:

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,329646.msg1780292.html#msg1780292
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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #118 on: August 29, 2018, 11:23:06 pm »
The USA isn't all Big Sky Country, @roamer_1

...even though we all wish it was.

Yes it is, in this case, @DCPatriot . It ain't no different anywhere. It is the same dang thing as your kitchen table. If what you want is liberty, there is only one way that happens. And this ain't it.

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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #119 on: August 29, 2018, 11:31:03 pm »
And sure as shi...nola, Kurt Schlichter churns out another garbage article that gets people bickering. While he collects yet another paycheck.

Maybe it is time we and other forums like this stop hosting his garbage. I hate to say this because even liberal and socialist content can have a place here, if only to be mocked and discredited. His stuff is worthless, suitable only for picking the very fights he relishes.

So, let's deprive him of his source of income: attention.

I am not a mod, and I don't have a direct say in what this board does, but maybe it is time to start blacklisting some commentators. After all, it was Schlichter's own idea.
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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #120 on: August 29, 2018, 11:36:02 pm »
Well @DCPatriot the rest of your ilk have run off...I for one would still like to hear your comment to my post on page 1 of this thread:

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,329646.msg1780292.html#msg1780292

How can anyone expect them to keep Trump focused on the Conservative fire when they have abandoned it themselves and have been sole-focused on firing upon those daring to hold Trump's feet to it?

Maybe it is time we and other forums like this stop hosting his garbage. I hate to say this because even liberal and socialist content can have a place here, if only to be mocked and discredited. His stuff is worthless, suitable only for picking the very fights he relishes.

Sadly his vocal online posse want to pick those fights, threaten and intimidate - because payback is what they really want, lip service to liberty is a side-note and asterisk.
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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #121 on: August 29, 2018, 11:49:34 pm »
And sure as shi...nola, Kurt Schlichter churns out another garbage article that gets people bickering. While he collects yet another paycheck.

Maybe it is time we and other forums like this stop hosting his garbage. I hate to say this because even liberal and socialist content can have a place here, if only to be mocked and discredited. His stuff is worthless, suitable only for picking the very fights he relishes.

So, let's deprive him of his source of income: attention.

I am not a mod, and I don't have a direct say in what this board does, but maybe it is time to start blacklisting some commentators. After all, it was Schlichter's own idea.

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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #122 on: August 29, 2018, 11:52:08 pm »
I am not a mod, and I don't have a direct say in what this board does, but maybe it is time to start blacklisting some commentators. After all, it was Schlichter's own idea.
That'd be just what TOS does. (And has done, regarding some commentators and some sites, not just the most obvious fever-swampers, either.) Surely there are those among us here whose reasons for coming here just might have included that this site doesn't blacklist commentators (other than, perhaps, the obvious fever-swampers) the way that one often enough does.

I guess nobody would want to be reminded of the sage counsel of Frank Chodorov: Let them rant their heads off---that is their right, which we cannot afford to infringe---but let us keep from them the political means of depriving everybody else of the same right.

And we still have the same right to reject Schlicter's arguments (the ones he makes and the ones he provokes alike) as he has to make (or provoke) them.
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Re: It’s Time For A Conservative Purge
« Reply #123 on: August 29, 2018, 11:53:57 pm »
And sure as shi...nola, Kurt Schlichter churns out another garbage article that gets people bickering. While he collects yet another paycheck.

Maybe it is time we and other forums like this stop hosting his garbage. I hate to say this because even liberal and socialist content can have a place here, if only to be mocked and discredited. His stuff is worthless, suitable only for picking the very fights he relishes.

So, let's deprive him of his source of income: attention.

I am not a mod, and I don't have a direct say in what this board does, but maybe it is time to start blacklisting some commentators. After all, it was Schlichter's own idea.

   I do understand your points @jmyrlefuller and respect them.   Though, like you, I have no power here, I want to reserve the option of not clicking on $hit someone posts here cause I do want to know what the 'other side' is feeding their lemmings, at times.

    The Internet is my News and TBR is a big part of that.

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« Reply #124 on: August 29, 2018, 11:54:05 pm »
That'd be just what TOS does. (And has done, regarding some commentators and some sites, not just the most obvious fever-swampers, either.) Surely there are those among us here whose reasons for coming here just might have included that this site doesn't blacklist commentators (other than, perhaps, the obvious fever-swampers) the way that one often enough does.

I guess nobody would want to be reminded of the sage counsel of Frank Chodorov---Let them rant their heads off---that is their right, which we cannot afford to infringe---but let us keep from them the political means of depriving everybody else of the same right.

And we still have the same right to reject Schlicter's arguments (the ones he makes and the ones he provokes alike) as he has to make (or provoke) them.

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Thank you, sir.   

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