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LOL! 

They've got this thread reaching 150 replies...hiding out here because it's the only place they can back-slap without getting their asses handed to them.

Key them occupied, will ya @sneakypete ?

It's rather ironic that pete is accusing someone more conservative than he of coming from DU, is it not?

Trump fever does strange things to one's ability to process information.......

(btw, DC, if you want to 'hand someone's ass' to them, why not go for it?  Otherwise what we have here is a Trump Spammer posting nonsense which is being countered with the truth........ not really all that amusing if you care about what is true and what is not).
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It's rather ironic that pete is accusing someone more conservative than he of coming from DU, is it not?

Trump fever does strange things to one's ability to process information.......

(btw, DC, if you want to 'hand someone's ass' to them, why not go for it?  Otherwise what we have here is a Trump Spammer posting nonsense which is being countered with the truth........ not really all that amusing if you care about what is true and what is not).

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My friend...I cannot be responsible for @LegalAmerican 's posts.   She is finding her 'sea legs' around here.  Don't be too hard on her.

No...I was only referring to the thread title/topic.  The deficit spending is a real concern and will have to be addressed.

It's the ONLY hill you and the rest of the NTs can find refuge upon...because on all other matters, President Trump has been magnificent.

I've kinda missed ya'll on the forum today...wondering where everybody was.       :shrug:
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Your president is the one flying all over the country on his never-ending campaign tour instead of staying in DC and working.  Just as Obama did when he was in president.  In fact, it's funny how very much alike the two presidents are.  Both would rather waste time on frivolities than work.


More fake news from N.T.'s. President Trump takes no pay, for this ungrateful job, and does not have lavish parties for rappers at the White House! (cocaine, smoking, debauchery) We taxpayers paid for more frivolousness by Obama, then any other president, while being a communist fraud. 65 thousand dollars from our TAXES to bring in hot dogs from Chicago! Obama, having 60 of his friends on AF one to party. Michells 100 of her friends, to party in SPAIN. Manschell, instead of walking the dog, hired a dog walker for $100,000 dollars! Obama made his rent-a kids, "ambassadors " in order to pay them millions, from our tax dollars. Asking congress to pay Manchells $10,000 a month for being First Lady. No one in the Trump family is paid any salary! Don't get me going, just a few examples.  Please. None of you know history of Obama. Obama was the one campaigning when our military died in Chatannoga by terrorist! Obama flew to Las Vegas, to party.  Everything you posted is a figment. Black unemployment was the lowest it had ever gotten under Obama.

Under Trump it is the best. How can you write so much drivel ?  Not factual at all.

India trip by Obama, was said to cost 2 billion dollars. Bringing over S.S.,  limousines, cars, etc.  Lodging, food, protection.  Then, the facts were REMOVED so obama would not look so "bad". 
The TWO MEN are opposites!

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More fake news from N.T.'s. President Trump takes no pay, for this ungrateful job,

So you are claiming that Trump is and will not gain financially from being POTUS?

Please go on record if that is so.
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Well, unlike in the Socialist country you claim to have come from... starving... we are entitled to bash the president and the critters in government as often as we like and for any reason we want to bash them.  In this country - that IS patriotic.  Freedom of political speech and all.

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You realize this Orange Freeper is probably laughing his ass off at us for responding to his nonsensical garbage?

Of course they are.  Not just on that forum either.  This particular creature appears to be on several spewing the same garbage.
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No...I was only referring to the thread title/topic.  The deficit spending is a real concern and will have to be addressed.

It's the ONLY hill you and the rest of the NTs can find refuge upon...because on all other matters, President Trump has been magnificent.


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I believe the RIGHT.  So much coverup by the real LIAR-IN-CHIEF.  I need to go shopping.
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The story lacked a named source, and the $200 million claim was credited to "a top official of the Maharashtra Government privy to the arrangements for the high-profile visit."

The claim quickly gained traction on the right, thanks in part to a link on the conservative news aggregator The Drudge Report. Among those citing it is Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann, who responded to a question from CNN's Anderson Cooper last night on how she would reduce the deficit by citing the cost of the presidential trip.

"Well I think we know that just within a day or so, the president of the United States will be taking a trip over to India that is expected to cost the taxpayers $200 million a day," she said. "He's taking two thousand people with him. He'll be renting out over 870 rooms in India. And these are 5-star hotel rooms at the Taj Mahal Palace hotel. This is the kind of over-the-top spending, it's a very small example, Anderson."




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My friend...I cannot be responsible for @LegalAmerican 's posts.   She is finding her 'sea legs' around here.  Don't be too hard on her.

No...I was only referring to the thread title/topic.  The deficit spending is a real concern and will have to be addressed.

It's the ONLY hill you and the rest of the NTs can find refuge upon...because on all other matters, President Trump has been magnificent.

I've kinda missed ya'll on the forum today...wondering where everybody was.       :shrug:

LOL!  Finding her "sea legs??"  She's come in with blasting with both barrels and taking no prisoners, spamming thread after thread with posts she's made on other forums.  I haven't put her on Ignore..... yet........ but if she keeps up this nonsense, I may have to.

btw, I've been with my baby grandson, in case you missed me in particular.  He's as cute as babies get.  happy77
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More fake news from N.T.'s. President Trump takes no pay, for this ungrateful job, and does not have lavish parties for rappers at the White House! (cocaine, smoking, debauchery) We taxpayers paid for more frivolousness by Obama, then any other president, while being a communist fraud. 65 thousand dollars from our TAXES to bring in hot dogs from Chicago! Obama, having 60 of his friends on AF one to party. Michells 100 of her friends, to party in SPAIN. Manschell, instead of walking the dog, hired a dog walker for $100,000 dollars! Obama made his rent-a kids, "ambassadors " in order to pay them millions, from our tax dollars. Asking congress to pay Manchells $10,000 a month for being First Lady. No one in the Trump family is paid any salary! Don't get me going, just a few examples.  Please. None of you know history of Obama. Obama was the one campaigning when our military died in Chatannoga by terrorist! Obama flew to Las Vegas, to party.  Everything you posted is a figment. Black unemployment was the lowest it had ever gotten under Obama.

Under Trump it is the best. How can you write so much drivel ?  Not factual at all.

India trip by Obama, was said to cost 2 billion dollars. Bringing over S.S.,  limousines, cars, etc.  Lodging, food, protection.  Then, the facts were REMOVED so obama would not look so "bad". 
The TWO MEN are opposites!

Nope.

Both petulant, childish narcissists.
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His Daddy is the young soldier I asked everyone to pray for WAAAAY back on FR.

I'm pretty sure you were one of the guys who did!  :patriot:
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His Daddy is the young soldier I asked everyone to pray for WAAAAY back on FR.

I'm pretty sure you were one of the guys who did!  :patriot:

His 1st child?   
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His 1st child?

Yep.  He was busy with two deployments, college and law school!  He and his gorgeous wife bought a house and settled down.

He's doing great!
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Yep.  He was busy with two deployments, college and law school!  He and his gorgeous wife bought a house and settled down.

He's doing great!

MAGA!!  ...bought a house?

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MAGA!!  ...bought a house?

God Bless!      888high58888

Not far from DC!  THANK you, my friend!  God bless you too!!
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I know AF1 is only AF1 when POTUS is on board (or more correctly, any plane with POTUS on board is AF1).

What I don't know is if Ed Force One is only called that when IM is on board.

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 More baloney from FAKE NEWS.  There were two negotiations going on. One was for new AF ONE,,the other for planes for our military.  The price was reduced by president Trumps negotiations, on BOTH DEALS. Then on later deals Lockheed Martin reneged on the price.  Not on president TRUMP.  I tried to get my other computer fixed. The young man did not know how. When I post my correct information from the past, it is removed from my files.
Difficult to prove things now, with so much being removed from the internet. People don't even know, deep state is still in "charge" and try all they can, to remove real facts. The sheep, N.T.'s follow along.  ****sheep****

You all willingly "walk into the ovens". Amazing to me.

President TRUMP was working on our behalf, before he was inaugurated. No LEFT, LYING, media will give him any credit. By now, some of you should be wiser.  All good thing's happening, have nothing to do with president TRUMP, right?
Not even common sense, thinking. All of it is happening as if by magic, while having a DEMOCRATIC and RINO congress , stopping all of his policy's. lol Trump was working on helping this country back in 2016! Before being president. President Trump is a worker, and works 100 hour weeks, for no pay!  800 thousand, saved on that alone.

As one who twice visited Dachau and Flossenburg concentration camps (and with a greater understanding of history than most), I find your comment about "willingly walking into the ovens" absolutely appalling and without any shred of merit.

If I owned this forum, it would be sufficient grounds for banning you. Lucky for you I'm not the owner.

Your other comments have been fully debunked, so I won't pile on. However, @LegalAmerican , I'm still waiting for your long overdue retraction of the "Ted Cruz on a DC Madam's list".
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Wrong. When president Trump went for the "G 20' meeting in Europe,  there were two AF one's, on the tarmac. They may not call obamas, AF one, any more, but he still flys around in one. That is why a "new" AF one had to be created for new president. I saw the pictures of them both in Europe. If you want to get technical, go right ahead, or play SEMANTICS.
I am posting by memory, this is not SCHOOL is it?  Because it is not "G 20" anymore, does not make my information wrong. 
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[G20] Two AIR FORCE ONE landing in Hamburg for G20 ... - YouTube

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Is President Obama flying on Air Force One more than other ...

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I don't want to get in the middle of an argument I know nothing about,but there are ALWAYS 2 AF-1's sitting on a runway anywhere a US President goes. There MUST be a backup immediately on hand with the right commo gear in case something happens to the one being used by the president.

It's just SOP.

There is also a spare Presidential limo everywhere he goes.
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Well, unlike in the Socialist country you claim to have come from... starving... we are entitled to bash the president and the critters in government as often as we like and for any reason we want to bash them.  In this country - that IS patriotic.  Freedom of political speech and all.

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You realize this Orange Freeper is probably laughing his ass off at us for responding to his nonsensical garbage?

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Probably. He learned long ago the way to get the best of anyone is to get them so mad they can't think clearly. He does stuff like throw out oral bombs,and his enemies pounce on meaningless crap,leaving him free to work on what interests him.
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It's rather ironic that pete is accusing someone more conservative than he of coming from DU, is it not?



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Wrong. When president Trump went for the "G 20' meeting in Europe,  there were two AF one's, on the tarmac. They may not call obamas, AF one, any more, but he still flys around in one. That is why a "new" AF one had to be created for new president. I saw the pictures of them both in Europe. If you want to get technical, go right ahead, or play SEMANTICS.
I am posting by memory, this is not SCHOOL is it?  Because it is not "G 20" anymore, does not make my information wrong. 
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[G20] Two AIR FORCE ONE landing in Hamburg for G20 ... - YouTube

Two "Air Force One" landed today at Hamburg airport, bringing the President and US delegation to the city of Hamburg, Germany, where the G20 summit 2017 take...
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The new Air Force 1's by Boeing won't be delivered until 2024.

Boeing lands $600M contract to design new Air Force Ones
https://www.defensenews.com/air/2017/09/13/boeing-lands-600m-contract-to-design-new-air-force-ones/

Statement from the Press Secretary on Air Force One Contract
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/statement-press-secretary-air-force-one-contract/

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I don't want to get in the middle of an argument I know nothing about,but there are ALWAYS 2 AF-1's sitting on a runway anywhere a US President goes. There MUST be a backup immediately on hand with the right commo gear in case something happens to the one being used by the president.

It's just SOP.

There is also a spare Presidential limo everywhere he goes.

There is a large logistics train that supports what you see on TV...primarily AF 1 arriving in front of a red carpet and the President departing.

The Limo's as well as other support gear normally arrive either by C-5 or C-17 depending on whether any aircraft from HMX-1 are carried too.

If they bring one of the other planes along like the Boeing 757 it's because either they are using it as the press plane or the President may have to use it instead of the 747 for space/runway considerations where he is flying to for the summit. 


And the plane is only known as AF-2 if the VP is aboard without the President.
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You are grossly mistaken...bordering on purposely lying about this.

Former Presidents do not have access to any aircraft in the 89th Airlift Wing (The unit that has the Presidential aircraft fleet) once they are out of office.

The ONLY way they get to ride AF 1 is if they are invited by the CURRENT President or the CURRENT President authorizes it's use as part of the funeral for a former President as was the case for President's For and Reagan.


You're full of bullsh*t if you stand by your stupid claim that Obama still gets to fly on AF 1 or any of the other planes in the Presidential fleet.

It just does not happen.
When Obama was on board, I always thought of it as "Air Force Zero" anyway....No disrespect meant to the flight officers and crew (in the air or on the ground).
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WTF? OBAMA STILL GETS TO USE AIR FORCE ONE AFTER TRUMP’S INAUGURATION

JANUARY 16, 2017| BY BRIAN ANDERSON

The only legacy Obama will leave behind on Friday when his presidential term is mercifully over, is one of wasting our money so he and his family can fly around the world on lavish vacations. That is supposed to be a thing of the past, but apparently the ***Obamas still get to use Air Force One ***even after Trump officially takes office.**** I wonder if he’s really moving out of the White House too or if Trump’s going to have to endure a lengthy eviction process, which of course will be considered racist.

Obama just got back from a vacation in Hawaii. The only thing he’s done since is try his best to de-legitimize his successor, which must be exhausting. On Sunday he said in a 60 Minutes interview that the first thing he’s going to do after leaving office is relax.

“I’m not setting my alarm. That I’m certain of. That I am absolutely positive of. I’m going to try to get some sleep,” said Obama of his post-White House plans.

If he relaxed any more, people might think he was dead. Michelle would have to put a mirror under his nose just to make sure he was still breathing. No seriously, he has been the laziest president we’ve ever witnessed. I don’t think it would be possible for him to have done less in his 8 years of golfing and appearing on talk shows.

In any case, TMZ has discovered where Obama is going to unwind after his two-term nap. Before you laugh at the source, consider that TMZ now has more journalistic integrity than most of the broadcast networks, CNN, and The New York Times.

President Obama and Michelle Obama will be leaving frigid Washington D.C. for sunny Palm Springs … TMZ has learned.

We’re told when the First Family leaves the Capitol after the inauguration, they’ll take a chopper (it will not be Marine One because he won’t be the active president when he boards) to Andrews Air Force Base.

Our sources say at 2:45 PM they will leave Andrews on Special Air Mission 29,000, the plane that will take them to Palm Springs.

***It’s the same plane that Obama used as president, but it won’t be called Air Force One.***

Okay, it goes by a different name now, but it’s still the** same plane Obama used as Air Force One.** It’s taking off from a US military facility and staffed by members of the US Military. How can this be?

The report says that Obama is leaving Andrews Air Force Base at 2:45pm on Friday, which is after Trump is sworn in as president. Not that Obama gives a shit, but the 20th Amendment of the Constitution says, “the terms of the President and the Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January.”

 Almost 3 hours after he ain’t the president, Obama still gets to fly on the taxpayer’s dime. Again, how can this be?

Though we are still on the hook for Obama’s Secret Service detail and pension, we should be done with paying for his vacations. He’ll be a private citizens on Friday and he can pay his own air fare like the rest of do when we want to vacation.

Maybe this is one of those things like the US government gives the outgoing president a free ride out of town as a courtesy. The Obamas however have bought a house in Washington DC, just a few miles from the White House. I guess I’d be cool with giving him some money for the bus, but it’s outrageous that we’re gifting him six figures in air travel to go somewhere he doesn’t actually live.

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When Obama was on board, I always thought of it as "Air Force Zero" anyway....No disrespect meant to the flight officers and crew (in the air or on the ground).


Good one!   :seeya:   :patriot: