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Federal judge orders Trump admin to restart DACA program
« on: August 03, 2018, 10:07:26 pm »
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A federal judge on Friday said the government must restart the entire DACA deportation amnesty, including accepting brand new applications — but gave the administration a chance to appeal before his ruling takes effect.

The ruling by Judge John D. Bates is a major blow to President Trump, and creates even more confusion about his immigration policy.

Judge Bates said Mr. Trump and his Homeland Security Department do have the power to revoke the Obama-era DACA program, but they cut too many corners in the way they tried to do it.

He said the government needs to prove that it has considered the benefits to society of having illegal immigrants here and working, versus the government’s interest in enforcing the laws as written.

He said Homeland Security failed to do that in its original revocation last September, and even after he gave it a chance to update its reasoning, it still failed to convince him.


https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/aug/3/federal-judge-orders-trump-admin-restart-daca/

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Re: Federal judge orders Trump admin to restart DACA program
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2018, 10:09:38 pm »
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Re: Federal judge orders Trump admin to restart DACA program
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2018, 10:12:31 pm »
Your Ruling Now ... Enforce It @$$HOLE  :smokin:
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Re: Federal judge orders Trump admin to restart DACA program
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2018, 10:13:35 pm »
I'm getting sick of the Obama/Trump Era, where "laws" are made by the Administration and Judiciary rather than the Legislative body.
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Re: Federal judge orders Trump admin to restart DACA program
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2018, 10:23:52 pm »
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Re: Federal judge orders Trump admin to restart DACA program
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2018, 10:25:07 pm »
Quote from: RetBobbyMI on August 03, 2018, 10:23:52 pm
On what basis? Since there is no law on the books that created DACA.

Baffling, isn't it?
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Re: Federal judge orders Trump admin to restart DACA program
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2018, 10:25:59 pm »
Bush 43 appointee.  Enough said.
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Re: Federal judge orders Trump admin to restart DACA program
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2018, 10:29:13 pm »
Quote from: RetBobbyMI on August 03, 2018, 10:23:52 pm
On what basis? Since there is no law on the books that created DACA.

You haven't heard? :shrug:

Judges write their own laws now! :patriot:
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Re: Federal judge orders Trump admin to restart DACA program
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2018, 10:32:35 pm »
That would probably be a good approach, something along the lines of: "I've had a judicial team examine the ruling and they do not find that the ruling relies on existing law, and is therefore not a defensible, legitimate ruling."  It's about time these judges were challenged.
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Re: Federal judge orders Trump admin to restart DACA program
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2018, 10:33:21 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on August 03, 2018, 10:25:07 pm
Baffling, isn't it?
I guess all those civics and political Science classes I took a long time ago we’re for naught.
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Re: Federal judge orders Trump admin to restart DACA program
« Reply #10 on: August 03, 2018, 10:42:18 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on August 03, 2018, 10:25:07 pm
Baffling, isn't it?

That's why I said it's time for an impeachment.  Ideally, the judge would be ever-so-gently tarred and feathered right in front of the Jefferson Memorial.  (Jefferson said "The greatest threat to a Constitutional Republic is activist judges.")

Why the heck are we TOLERATING these judicial monsters?  I'm persuaded that Jefferson would be pushing for the judge's impeachment, then criminal prosecution for flagrant sedition.  Then the judge would be hanged by the neck until dead.

Our Founders were serious about our Constitution.  But we are living in a post-Constitutional society, to use Levin's words.
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Re: Federal judge orders Trump admin to restart DACA program
« Reply #11 on: August 03, 2018, 11:45:16 pm »
Appeal.  Take it all the way to SCOTUS.
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Re: Federal judge orders Trump admin to restart DACA program
« Reply #12 on: August 03, 2018, 11:57:15 pm »
Quote from: Applewood on August 03, 2018, 11:45:16 pm
Appeal.  Take it all the way to SCOTUS.

Nope!  Just totally ignore it and move on.
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Re: Federal judge orders Trump admin to restart DACA program
« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2018, 04:47:22 am »
Quote from: the_doc on August 03, 2018, 10:42:18 pm
That's why I said it's time for an impeachment.  Ideally, the judge would be ever-so-gently tarred and feathered right in front of the Jefferson Memorial.  (Jefferson said "The greatest threat to a Constitutional Republic is activist judges.")

Why the heck are we TOLERATING these judicial monsters?  I'm persuaded that Jefferson would be pushing for the judge's impeachment, then criminal prosecution for flagrant sedition.  Then the judge would be hanged by the neck until dead.

Our Founders were serious about our Constitution.  But we are living in a post-Constitutional society, to use Levin's words.
The Congress has no backbone to impeach a dog catcher.
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