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Everyone knew that this was the type of person that Trump was when they voted for him.  Nothing burger......

Well.... I didn't vote for him.  Now.... the real test.... of those "principles"....

will come in 2020.   Right? 

Bottom line.... I didn't 'not vote' for Clinton because he was a scumbag womanizer.   It was always only because of his leftist politics and because he was a damned Democrat.  So my principles never entered into that decision.  It's quite possible.... that the same will be said for my choice in 2020.   And as a further disclaimer.... I have never fainted and I also hate pearls!
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Tweet from McDougal's attorney......


Peter K. Stris
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@karenmcdougal98–> When @realDonaldTrump said we were lying, do you think he meant we WEREN’T?  —>Michael Cohen Secretly Taped Trump Discussing Payment to Playboy Model
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And as a further disclaimer.... I have never fainted and I also hate pearls!


Would receiving them as a gift cause you to faint?
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I didn't see "principles" on the ballet for President.
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Why? They are the ones who originate the spending bills, I'm sure Trump would sign whatever they'd put across his desk if it cut spending.  There's nothing stopping them.

Because Trump is the leader of the Republican Party and is a con man.  He's proven that he's very effective at going after those who challenge him, but of course, I think you already knew that. 
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Would receiving them as a gift cause you to faint?

More than likely.... yes.  Everyone that knows me knows I like turquoise...

or nothing at all. 
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I didn't see "principles" on the ballet for President.



It's pretty obvious that principles and dancing are really not his thing.




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So, if the tape is 'exculpatory,' as Rudy claims, why would Cohen tape this brief, seemingly innocuous conversation it and retain it?  My theory:  Trump is on tape requesting payment in check form, so 'there is a record.'  It makes everything look above board, should the deal arrangement with The Enquirer ever get out.  It's a CYA tape and they know it.  It's exactly why Giuliani has previously said 'as long as Michael tells the truth,' they're fine.  They're preparing to call him a liar, if he cooperates and tells the full story.

I'm soooo confused.  AND I'm getting a headache.   This stuff is getting complex.
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Because Trump is the leader of the Republican Party

The furthest thing from the truth and even his fans agree
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I'm soooo confused.  AND I'm getting a headache.   This stuff is getting complex.


Meh.  I'm just thinking out loud.  Rudy did say that, though.....

Rudy Giuliani says on ABC’s “This Week” Sunday that they have no worries about Michael Cohen “as long as he tells the truth.”

https://apnews.com/0a6f82fc0b624030b5a7525aa34303fa
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Meh.  I'm just thinking out loud.  Rudy did say that, though.....

Rudy Giuliani says on ABC’s “This Week” Sunday that they have no worries about Michael Cohen “as long as he tells the truth.”

https://apnews.com/0a6f82fc0b624030b5a7525aa34303fa

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"Truth" is always the 1st causality of war and politics.


That's been especially true with the politics of this admin.  Trump even lies about his lies and tells the press it's no big deal to lie to them.
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I didn't see "principles" on the ballet for President.

That’s the beauty of politics. I doubt literally a saint could get through a political campaign with his reputation intact. It’s politics after all, you get to make *hit up! Cool, huh?

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That's been especially true with the politics of this admin.  Trump even lies about his lies and tells the press it's no big deal to lie to them.

That is a lie.
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That's been especially true with the politics of this admin.  Trump even lies about his lies and tells the press it's no big deal to lie to them.

Exactly!  (sadly)
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Meh.  I'm just thinking out loud.  Rudy did say that, though.....

Rudy Giuliani says on ABC’s “This Week” Sunday that they have no worries about Michael Cohen “as long as he tells the truth.”

https://apnews.com/0a6f82fc0b624030b5a7525aa34303fa

So Rudy could have been setting up a case for claiming Cohen has flipped and is lying then?  I wish we could hook them all (all politicians and government EEs) up to a lie detector machine .... after first injecting them with truth serum...lol.
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« Last Edit: July 20, 2018, 02:55:49 pm by edpc »
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With big money, the truth went away.
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I didn't see "principles" on the ballet for President.

Well then it doesn't matter who we vote for then does it?

I guess vote for whomever promises you more shit.
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Well I guess the Russia-thing flamed out, so here's the next "Outrage du Jour".

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Well then it doesn't matter who we vote for then does it?

I guess vote for whomever promises you more shit.

You are a fool if you think we have had a "principled" candidate on the ballot in your life time.  Cut the crap man. 
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Wow. Some credible sources here. What a snooze.

BTW it is not illegal to pay people to shut their mouth. Lawyers do it all the time. It's called a settlement.

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Well then it doesn't matter who we vote for then does it?

I guess vote for whomever promises you more shit.

Point to a President past Washington who didn't run on promising shit.

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You are a fool if you think we have had a "principled" candidate on the ballot in your life time.  Cut the crap man.

By all means, keep voting for the lesser evil/bigger liberal/Marxist miscreant then.  It explains why we are where we have arrived.
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Point to a President past Washington who didn't run on promising shit.

Like I said, just keep voting for the greater lawless, adulterous lying sack of shit who promises you the biggest bullshit you will swallow then.

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Like I said, just keep voting for the greater lawless, adulterous lying sack of shit who promises you the biggest bullshit you will swallow then.

Yeah, and you just push democratic progressivism, lack of respect for the sanctity of life, your way is to do nothing and call it conservatism.

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Yeah, and you just push democratic progressivism,

Please cite the source of MY QUOTE anywhere on this board at ANY TIME I have been here or anywhere else online where I have "pushed democrat progressivism".

Go ahead.  Show us.   I want to see your proof that I push "progressivism/Socialism//Leftism/Statism.

Go on.  Show us all where I have advocated for it.

I'm waiting.

Because if you do not, you're an unmitigated liar.

<< NOPE >>.

your way is to do nothing and call it conservatism.

Yours is to vote for and cheerlead a NYC liberal Democrat and liberal leftist policies that you insist are Conservative.

@Mod1   You better get ahold of this guy and talk some sense into him or chances are I am going to be very publicly getting myself banned for life from here.
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Yeah, and you just push democratic progressivism, lack of respect for the sanctity of life, your way is to do nothing and call it conservatism.
Hey @TomSea ol buddy, ol pal...

We’re all still waiting for you to either provide proof that members of TBR support child abuse.  Or you can recant and admit that you were lying out your ass...again.

Put up or shut up ol buddy, ol pal.
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Point to a President past Washington who didn't run on promising shit.


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Hey @TomSea ol buddy, ol pal...

We’re all still waiting for you to either provide proof that members of TBR support child abuse.  Or you can recant and admit that you were lying out your ass...again.

Put up or shut up ol buddy, ol pal.

He engages in slander regularly now.
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Please cite the source of MY QUOTE anywhere on this board at ANY TIME I have been here or anywhere else online where I have "pushed democrat progressivism".

Go ahead.  Show us.   I want to see your proof that I push "progressivism/Socialism//Leftism/Statism.

Go on.  Show us all where I have advocated for it.

I'm waiting.

Because if you do not, you're an unmitigated liar.

<< NOPE >>.

Yours is to vote for and cheerlead a NYC liberal Democrat and liberal leftist policies that you insist are Conservative.

@Mod1   You better get ahold of this guy and talk some sense into him or chances are I am going to be very publicly getting myself banned for life from here.

Where is it?

Because all you do is fuss about anyone who voted for, get ready for it, the conservative on the ballot... and I will go with what the pundits say, not your opinion.

You would have us NOT vote for secured borders, NOT vote for someone who may turn the Supreme Court into a pro-life court, NOT vote for someone who would cut down on government jobs as has happened.  Yes, I call that progressivism.

All you do is tell us to do nothing, it serves liberalism

It serves progressivism. You don't even keep up with the news, so you can just feign ignorance about everything.

We are suppose to list things that are in the daily newspaper, no slander, you tell us not to act, there fore once again, it serves progressivism.

The slander is yours, accusing others of being a part of a cult or however you have toned it down
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Hey @TomSea ol buddy, ol pal...

We’re all still waiting for you to either provide proof that members of TBR support child abuse.  Or you can recant and admit that you were lying out your ass...again.

Put up or shut up ol buddy, ol pal.

Did I accuse you of that? Somebody was shifting the conversation away from child abuse, that was a defensive mechanism about what should have been discussed. Pull the thread up, I'll talk about it, not out of context.

So, I won't shut up. You have no moral authority, I will eat glass to vote for the pro-life candidate, you won't take it away. Maybe you should shut up.

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He engages in slander regularly now.

Yeah, you say that because your arguments to do nothing and call it conservatism is cooked.

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Someone yells and cusses at others for voting for the GOP; and wasting our vote for which men fought and died for brings in the Obamas, the Clintons. Yeah, you are promoting progressivism, no ifs, ands or buts.

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Did I accuse you of that? Somebody was shifting the conversation away from child abuse, that was a defensive mechanism about what should have been discussed. Pull the thread up, I'll talk about it, not out of context.

So, I won't shut up. You have no moral authority, I will eat glass to vote for the pro-life candidate, you won't take it away. Maybe you should shut up.
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Here’s your post ol buddy, ol pal:

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,203641.msg1721346.html#msg1721346

The owner of this fine establishment also asked you to back up your bullshit.

So now:  put up or shut up.  Show links to the TBRs who are DEFENDING CHILD ABUSE

or admit you were full of shit.
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Some marine, ex-soldier or something tweet to the effect, "put Barron Trump in a cage with pedophiles, how about you put me in the cage with the person who said that", I even forget who said that, then, someone's contribution was "oh, the Marine is 26 year old, the orginal tweeter is 72 years old, they can't fight". Okay, it went something like this. So was this child abuse being defended? Look up the original thread, it certainly was a wrench to toss in to the original argument.

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Where is it?

Because all you do is fuss about anyone who voted for, get ready for it, the conservative on the ballot... and I will go with what the pundits say, not your opinion.

You would have us NOT vote for secured borders, NOT vote for someone who may turn the Supreme Court into a pro-life court, NOT vote for someone who would cut down on government jobs as has happened.  Yes, I call that progressivism.

All you do is tell us to do nothing, it serves liberalism

It serves progressivism. You don't even keep up with the news, so you can just feign ignorance about everything.

We are suppose to list things that are in the daily newspaper, no slander, you tell us not to act, there fore once again, it serves progressivism.

The slander is yours, accusing others of being a part of a cult or however you have toned it down


So, once again - you prove not only are a liar engaged in political slander to promote your prince - but once again accuse those who do not genuflect Trump with being child molesters/Democrat Progressives/pro-abortionists and whatever other sick and twisted bullshit you want to ascribe to we 'enemies' of you people.

People like you make the Democrats look like principled moral statesmen.
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@TomSea
Here’s your post ol buddy, ol pal:

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,203641.msg1721346.html#msg1721346

The owner of this fine establishment also asked you to back up your bullshit.

So now:  put up or shut up.  Show links to the TBRs who are DEFENDING CHILD ABUSE

or admit you were full of shit.

That is all he is full of, because he is all upset he cannot have Trump's baby.
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Calling Trump "our prince" already shows the slanderer was already active on this thread.... to be throwing that at others. 

Really, others have made a decision not to back the GOP nominee, they are on the sidelines.

2nd amendment rights, and so on, safeguarded right now, with this administration, the alternative was Hillary, we might have the SCOTUS ram-rodding judicial activism through the courts to take away our guns, no thanks.

I realize no candidate in the end, is going to be perfect to us all. As they say, "don't let the perfect be an enemy to the possible".

Also, the president has to work with congress to get things done, that is being a leader. These other ways would get nothing done at all.

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Some marine, ex-soldier or something tweet to the effect, "put Barron Trump in a cage with pedophiles, how about you put me in the cage with the person who said that", I even forget who said that, then, someone's contribution was "oh, the Marine is 26 year old, the orginal tweeter is 72 years old, they can't fight". Okay, it went something like this. So was this child abuse being defended? Look up the original thread, it certainly was a wrench to toss in to the original argument.

@Axeslinger

I read it...and we’re still waiting for you to admit you were FOS for explicitly stating that TBRs “defended child abuse”

Come on, ol buddy, ol pal.  Just admit you were FOS, it was a bridge too far and you made something up out of whole cloth.   Your words were slanderous and inflammatory and meant to cut to the quick.  They were also WHOLLY UNTRUE.


Time to cowboy up, @TomSea
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@TomSea
Here’s your post ol buddy, ol pal:

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,203641.msg1721346.html#msg1721346

The owner of this fine establishment also asked you to back up your bullshit.

So now:  put up or shut up.  Show links to the TBRs who are DEFENDING CHILD ABUSE

or admit you were full of shit.

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Some marine, ex-soldier or something tweet to the effect, "put Barron Trump in a cage with pedophiles, how about you put me in the cage with the person who said that", I even forget who said that, then, someone's contribution was "oh, the Marine is 26 year old, the orginal tweeter is 72 years old, they can't fight". Okay, it went something like this. So was this child abuse being defended? Look up the original thread, it certainly was a wrench to toss in to the original argument.

@Axeslinger

There you go! Take it or leave it, it was certainly a confusing position to take on an issue when child abuse was being spoken about. Some Marine says, "Hey, put me in a cage with this guy who tweeted this about Barron Trump" and someone comes out to defend, "hey, the guy's 72 years old, vs. a 26 year old Marine", call me want  you want, you want to talk about shameful, this was.

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That is all he is full of, because he is all upset he cannot have Trump's baby.

You got a problem with the pro-life movement? You show again, you are not helping out the conservative movement.  Thanks.

You slander big time.  What a no-class remark.

By speaking out against a president that upholds gun control, the sanctity of life, secured borders and using their vote as not to vote in the general election that would have ushered progressivism in, you show what you essentially and effectively back up.
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Calling Trump "our prince" already shows the slanderer was already active on this thread.... to be throwing that at others. 

I'll be sure to call him your Dear Leader and Dicktator from now on, just to comply with your demands that his ranking station is higher than 'prince' in your estimation.

I will draw the line on referencing him as His Eminence or His Holiness however.
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I've been working for a while this afternoon

So.....

What did I miss?

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You got a problem with the pro-life movement? You show again, you are not helping out the conservative movement.  Thanks.

Listen [nope], when you get arrested for assault after a pro-abortion protester punches your 8 month pregnant wife while exiting a restaurant attached to a hotel hosting a meeting with pro-lifers back in 1986, then we can discuss whether or not I 'helped' the Conservative movement.

Until then, you're grasping at straws, filling them with shit and flinging them hoping they stick.

Just like Leftists do.
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There you go! Take it or leave it, it was certainly a confusing position to take on an issue when child abuse was being spoken about. Some Marine says, "Hey, put me in a cage with this guy who tweeted this about Barron Trump" and someone comes out to defend, "hey, the guy's 72 years old, vs. a 26 year old Marine", call me want  you want, you want to talk about shameful, this was.

@TomSea

Generally apologies include phrases like “I’m sorry” or “i shouldn’t have said that”

You know actual admissions that you were FOS about outright stating that members of this forum were so despicable as to “defend child abuse”

You’re very outspoken here @TomSea ...don’t get all mealy mouthed politician on us now.   
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I've been working for a while this afternoon

So.....

What did I miss?

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In a nut shell I thought for awhile, before the edits and deletions,  we were gonna see a by gosh by golly real 1st rate dick measuring contest.  But looks like the blood returned to the big head where thought is controlled and here we are.  Can you imagine how great it would be if God had given us men enough blood to work both of our heads at the same time?

The possibilities are endless.
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Obviously, the Marine, whoever this guy was, said this in a figurative way, then, someone comes in somehow emphasizing, "oh, the ex-military is 26 years old, the tweeter was 72 years old", what's one to make of this? Defend it if you want.  It is confusing that someone would bring this into the conversation and I don't apologize.

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Obviously, the Marine, whoever this guy was, said this in a figurative way, then, someone comes in somehow emphasizing, "oh, the ex-military is 26 years old, the tweeter was 72 years old", what's one to make of this? Defend it if you want.  It is confusing that someone would bring this into the conversation and I don't apologize.

@TomSea
So when you get confused you accuse them of defending child abuse with zero evidence to back it up.  Duly noted.  It is your own character you have assassinated.  And your damn right I have moral authority over you now.   At least I’m man enough to admit when I’ve screwed the pooch.  You’re just....gutless.
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Obviously, the Marine, whoever this guy was, said this in a figurative way, then, someone comes in somehow emphasizing, "oh, the ex-military is 26 years old, the tweeter was 72 years old", what's one to make of this? Defend it if you want.  It is confusing that someone would bring this into the conversation and I don't apologize.

No need for caustic remarks, if this is interpreted any other way, I'm sorry. At the least, it defend the fiend who made that tweet.