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Offline mrclose

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There wasn't a peep of protest from Bush when Obama was wrecking the country.
Now that we have a President who wants to enforce existing immigration law, he gets all up in arms about it. :shrug:

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Former President George W. Bush says he’s “disturbed” by the immigration debate occurring under President Trump, where after decades, Americans are speaking out against mass immigration to the United States. During a panel discussion alongside former President Bill Clinton, Bush said the current immigration debate “doesn’t recognize” the “valuable contributions” of foreign nationals.

“I’m disturbed by the debate that’s taking place because I think it undermines the goodness of America,” Bush said. “I think it doesn’t recognize the valuable contributions that immigrants make to our society. And it obscures the fact — the rhetoric does — that the system is broken and needs to be fixed.”

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/07/12/george-w-bush-im-disturbed-by-immigration-debate-taking-place/
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After 9-11, if Bush had said that we need to build a wall, and tightly control our borders, the majority in congress, and the population as a whole, would have supported that, and it would have been done.
Instead, he yapped about “security” and making Americans take off their shoes, and be treated like criminals at airports, while he left the border completely open, and didn’t give a hoot about who was sneaking in. Bush was a traitor then, and he’s still a traitor today.

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Bush had a choice to make. How to stick to the globalist, open-borders agenda.

He had to weaponize our intelligence services, and give them vast powers of surveillance.
He also helped form the Deep State, with creation of Homeland Security, Directorate of National Intelligence, etc... Patriot Act, etc.

We saw yesterday with Peter Strzok how those powers were abused.

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I hate the way I feel about W now because I used to love him and pray for him.
I guess I still should but I am completely flummoxed by him now.
Like I didn’t really ever know him. He is different than the man I thought he was and I feel betrayed.
Guess I’m the dummy here.

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Easily one of the worst and most destructive Presidents since LBJ. He should stick to finger painting and keep his stupid mouth shut.

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I have never been more delighted at the results of an election than I was when W beat Gore in 2000.

Now I cannot stand the sight of the man.

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Easily one of the worst and most destructive Presidents since LBJ. He should stick to finger painting and keep his stupid mouth shut.

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I have never been more delighted at the results of an election than I was when W beat Gore in 2000.

Now I cannot stand the sight of the man.

A man who had no soul, and no principle. And didn't care.

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He'd be a lot more disturbed if he had to live with the problem he helped create.


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A man who had no soul, and no principle. And didn't care.

He cared only so far as it served the interests of those with whom he and his family associate.

And they have never associated with us.

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Go ride your bike, George.

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I defended that clown on every web site I could find.
Bush is what got thrown out with the bath water.
He wanted MS Klinkton by trying to get Jebbie the nominee spot.

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People who fund campaigns, like his, have a lot at stake in keeping illegals flowing in.
Rick Perry once talked about building a fence.
Right after he got elected, he said "not gonna happen".
The word was H-E-B food chain, and Perry homes (no relation) wanted the pipeline to keep flowing, and they donated a lot.
Sane people that would have supported W.

Bush is playing word games.
No one is stopping immigration, just "illegal" immigration.

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I defended that clown on every web site I could find.
Bush is what got thrown out with the bath water.
He wanted MS Klinkton by trying to get Jebbie the nominee spot.

Saying anything negative about the guy was an insta-zot on freakrepublic circa 2004 or so.

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People who fund campaigns, like his, have a lot at stake in keeping illegals flowing in.
Rick Perry once talked about building a fence.
Right after he got elected, he said "not gonna happen".
The word was H-E-B food chain, and Perry homes (no relation) wanted the pipeline to keep flowing, and they donated a lot.
Sane people that would have supported W.

Bush is playing word games.
No one is stopping immigration, just "illegal" immigration.

What really makes this all surreal is its obviously the immigrant flow into Texas that is very close to destroying the political party Bush once led and turning it into a blue state.

Or maybe its not surreal at all. To Bush and people like him partisan politics (and their real consequences) are below him and are of no concern.

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I defended that clown on every web site I could find.
Bush is what got thrown out with the bath water.
He wanted MS Klinkton by trying to get Jebbie the nominee spot.

I carried that SOB's water for six years, until he fired Rumsfeld. Later, I really kicked myself when I read about the start of Iraq "reconstruction". The first man in charge was retired LTG Jay Garner. I knew him when he was a battalion commander in Germany. I was the XO of an Admin/Log detachment at the German training range at Todendorf. My job was to shadow the Battalion Cdr, to make sure they had everything they needed. Observing him for that week was an education in leadership. It was obvious his officers and soldiers loved him.

To this day, I'm convinced that his after-action report got me out of a lot of hot water back home. I was in charge most of the time, thanks to the CO dealing with personal problems back home, 400 miles away. Put it this way: when I returned in the fall, I was at Group HQ when I ran into a CW4 in the S-4 section. He told me, "seemed like every week I'd be walking in the hall and hear somebody mutter, 'did you hear what NHN did THIS week?"

It was all about getting the mission accomplished, and the results spoke for themselves. My troops did a great job, and the support agencies at Bremerhaven (200 miles away) all raved at how we handled our business.

He was recalled after about a month in Iraq, for the crime of saying publicly "his first priority is to hand Iraq back to the Iraqis as soon as possible...it's their country." Bush and Cheney couldn't abide that, with all the big contractors looking at big paydays.

I often ask myself, how many American lives would have been saved if Garner had stayed and done the job?
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The entire Bush family are too soft on illegal immigration.

They Think Americans are stupid, and that their "white guilt" method still sways people.

But it is just the "gentlemen's" way of claiming Trump's supporters are racists.

As such they all in with the democrat's.

Ask any Bush an important question. They can skillfully talk out of both sides of their mouths, and please both sides.
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I've always liked and defended George W. Bush and I still think he's basically a good man but just terribly, unforgivably naive about illegals.  He thought he could nation build in the Middle East.  That didn't work and it never will.

Those are primitive tribal people whose religion holds them back.  It will probably be hundreds of years before they can achieve any kind of good government.

But it really bugs me that Bush is speaking out now.  He kept quiet during all the disastrous Obama years. 

I really wish he would not make me regret my loyalty to him.
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Funny how this guy had ZERO to opine or say while Obama was in office regarding his policies, but NOW - he has PLENTY to say in response to official policy now taking shape.
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Funny how this guy had ZERO to opine or say while Obama was in office regarding his policies, but NOW - he has PLENTY to say in response to official policy now taking shape.

Yes, ain't it funny?  Odd ....how GWB had no qualms or concerns... while Obama was orchestrating (with Mexico) the trainloads of unaccompanied illegal/migrant "children" from central and south America.  And only now he bleats up?  (so yeah... he's still dead to me)
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Yes, ain't it funny?  Odd ....how GWB had no qualms or concerns... while Obama was orchestrating (with Mexico) the trainloads of unaccompanied illegal/migrant "children" from central and south America.  And only now he bleats up?  (so yeah... he's still dead to me)

So is his whole damn party AFAIC.
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Funny how this guy had ZERO to opine or say while Obama was in office regarding his policies, but NOW - he has PLENTY to say in response to official policy now taking shape.


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Saying anything negative about the guy was an insta-zot on freakrepublic circa 2004 or so.

His only saving grace was what the alternatives were.

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His only saving grace was what the alternatives were.

No lie, I thought Cheney was principled, up to the point I learned about the fate of Jay Garner. I'm no genius, but it was easy to connect the dots, considering the billions paid to American contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan. I'm surprised that no legitimate "investigative journalist" ever dug into that.

Maybe I'm too biased, considering I briefly knew LTG Garner. I'm no Peter Strzok...lol.
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I don't seem to recall seeing anything about Trump telling him to mind his own business. Certainly what he deserves on this.
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I don't seem to recall seeing anything about Trump telling him to mind his own business. Certainly what he deserves on this.

Heck...if he wasn't having dinner with the Queen, he'd probably have already sent a couple tweets about it.    :laugh:
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Not disturbed by anything Obama did, eh W?

You really need to go back to chopping wood down at Crawford.
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Not disturbed by anything Obama did, eh W?

You really need to go back to chopping wood down at Crawford.

I knew that whole Crawford Ranch stuff was nothing but a staged attempt to keep that folksy blue collar shtick going for voters when it was revealed that he started to frequent a french vegan snob eatery the moment he left office. He probably lost his phony Texas accent by now too.