Both Sides On Abortion Agree: Roe Is In Play Now

[edpc]

Justice Anthony Kennedy’s retirement after 30 years as a moderate swing vote on the Supreme Court poses a real threat to abortion rights in the United States, advocates and constitutional scholars agree. But exactly how that threat will play out is uncertain.

Within moments of the announcement that Kennedy, 81, would be leaving the court at the end of July, responses began to pour in from those who have spent careers fighting for and against abortion.

“Because President Trump will nominate the next Supreme Court justice, a woman’s constitutional right to access legal abortion is in dire, immediate danger,” said Ilyse Hogue, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sides-abortion-agree-roe-play-now-211011795.html

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Has President Trump said/tweeted anything about who he might nominate?  perhaps go back to his original list of name before winning election?

[edpc]

Has President Trump said/tweeted anything about who he might nominate?  perhaps go back to his original list of name before winning election?

He has said they would be from the list, so you can rule out Napolitano and Pirro.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trumps-supreme-court-justice-list-president-says-hell-pick-from-list-of-25-to-replace-justice-anthony-kennedy-2018-06-27/

[Fantom]

Has President Trump said/tweeted anything about who he might nominate?  perhaps go back to his original list of name before winning election?

I heard he was considerin' you. But found out what a jackass you were and decided on Schumer.        :dx1:

[Frank Cannon]

Both Sides On Abortion Agree: Roe Is In Play Now

[Formerly Once-Ler]

He has said they would be from the list, so you can rule out Napolitano and Pirro.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trumps-supreme-court-justice-list-president-says-hell-pick-from-list-of-25-to-replace-justice-anthony-kennedy-2018-06-27/

thanx

[edpc]

CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin was typically blunt, declaring within minutes of the news that abortion would be outlawed in nearly half the U.S. within 18 months.

“Anthony Kennedy is retiring. Abortion will be illegal in twenty states in 18 months. #SCOTUS,” he said in a tweet that racked up thousands of retweets within minutes.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/cnn-legal-analyst-predicts-abortion-illegal-20-states-195932406.html

[Emjay]

Justice Anthony Kennedy’s retirement after 30 years as a moderate swing vote on the Supreme Court poses a real threat to abortion rights in the United States, advocates and constitutional scholars agree. But exactly how that threat will play out is uncertain.

Within moments of the announcement that Kennedy, 81, would be leaving the court at the end of July, responses began to pour in from those who have spent careers fighting for and against abortion.

“Because President Trump will nominate the next Supreme Court justice, a woman’s constitutional right to access legal abortion is in dire, immediate danger,” said Ilyse Hogue, president of NARAL Pro-Choice America.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/sides-abortion-agree-roe-play-now-211011795.html

I am not holding my breath but it would be a great victory for our country if abortion could be de-legalized.

It's gonna be a hard battle because it has become such an entrenched thing in society and so many pro-abortionists view it with a religious fervor.  Legal abortion has weakened the moral fiber of our country more than almost anything else.

[Weird Tolkienish Figure]

How is Roe in play? I thought there was precedent/stare decisis?

[Right_in_Virginia]

How is Roe in play? I thought there was precedent/stare decisis?

It would be almost impossible. But this won't stop the issue from firing up women around the country or disappointing conservatives when Roe v Wade isn't reversed.

[Restored]

How is Roe in play? I thought there was precedent/stare decisis?

Because Republicans want women to die in alleys. The only hope for women to save their own lives is to vote against Republicans this election. And donate to the DNC and your local Democrat candidates.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

That is a reason not to nominate any women.  None of the 4 so far who have served on the court would vote to overturn.

And three of them are the worst libs to ever occupy the chair.

[edpc]

How is Roe in play? I thought there was precedent/stare decisis?

'Reproductive health.'  It'll be the war cry of the left for at least the next 2 years.  Not very healthy for the child.

[Night Hides Not]

How is Roe in play? I thought there was precedent/stare decisis?

Korematsu was overturned...why not Roe? Both were exceptionally bad rulings.

[Emjay]

That is a reason not to nominate any women.  None of the 4 so far who have served on the court would vote to overturn.

And three of them are the worst libs to ever occupy the chair.

Ahem.  I believe it is a bit unfair to equate all women with the democrat appointed female Court members.

Probably 99.9% of the women on this forum are pro-life and that percentage probably holds true for the majority of Republican women in the Real World.

[Frank Cannon]

Korematsu was overturned...why not Roe? Both were exceptionally bad rulings.

Well Korematsu had standing and started a law suit to work it's way up. I do not see any such case on Roe in the pipeline as we speak. It is a long road from starting a lawsuit to actually getting it in front of the Supreme Court.

[Bigun]

Korematsu was overturned...why not Roe? Both were exceptionally bad rulings.

Roe was not based on anything in the Constitution at all.  The majority based their ruling on things found in a prenumba that only they can see and read.  It's total BS!

[TomSea]

At a minimum,  no taxpayer or govrnment monies should go to Planned Parenthood or similar organizations.

2nd, individual states should be able to determine how to deal with this.  If they want to make it illegal, they should have that right.

[Frank Cannon]

At a minimum,  no taxpayer or govrnment monies should go to Planned Parenthood or similar organizations.

2nd, individual states should be able to determine how to deal with this.  If they want to make it illegal, they should have that right.

Well, you will need to start a lawsuit and have standing. Otherwise this is all sophistry.

[TomSea]

Well, you will need to start a lawsuit and have standing. Otherwise this is all sophistry.

Baloney, what does this even mean? Why would I sue?

Oklahoma and numerous states have passed pro-life laws and have been sued. Sometimes, the court allows the law. That's in the news all the time. Likewise, defunding planned parenthood is in the news all the time as well.

Not to be critical of anyone but again, I don't think people are up to what is going on in the pro-life debate.

The SCOTUS just ruled for Crisis Centers in California as not having to state abortion alternatives. Just read the news.

Trump is also allowing states, by executive order, not to use Planned Parenthood monies. Not the case with the last president.

The struggle is in the Courts all the time.

[GrouchoTex]

How is Roe in play? I thought there was precedent/stare decisis?

I would think a total removal would be difficult, but I could see them tinkering around the edges.
We could see cases brought before the court on things that have been tried before.

Examples:

Late term ban.
Parental notification.
Clinics having safety and hygienic standards as high as other medical facilities are required to.
Doctors needing admitting privileges to an area hospital.
Over the counter morning after pill (or is this a thing already? I don't know).
etc....

It may never be overturned, but it can be greatly curtailed.

[LucasWhite]

They will have a million-baby-killer march in Washington.  There is little they value more than their right to kill their own baby.

[Cyber Liberty]

Ahem.  I believe it is a bit unfair to equate all women with the democrat appointed female Court members.

Probably 99.9% of the women on this forum are pro-life and that percentage probably holds true for the majority of Republican women in the Real World.

Sandra Day O'Connor was one of the bigger disappointments the court produced, and she was nominated by Ronald Reagan.

[IsailedawayfromFR]

Ahem.  I believe it is a bit unfair to equate all women with the democrat appointed female Court members.

Probably 99.9% of the women on this forum are pro-life and that percentage probably holds true for the majority of Republican women in the Real World.

All women are not abortion advocates.

Unfortunately, a much higher percent of women than men are though, not necessarily on this forum.

Look at elected officials since day one in the Senate and House.  You can count dozens of women, but only a handful that are truly conservative, ever.

Sure, if you can find a Maggie Thatcher clone, I would support her; otherwise, she would have to be very closely screened.

[bilo]

CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin was typically blunt, declaring within minutes of the news that abortion would be outlawed in nearly half the U.S. within 18 months.
“Anthony Kennedy is retiring. Abortion will be illegal in twenty states in 18 months. #SCOTUS,” he said in a tweet that racked up thousands of retweets within minutes.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/cnn-legal-analyst-predicts-abortion-illegal-20-states-195932406.html

The leftist fear about not being able to sacrifice babies to moloch is because instead of going through the legislative process and compromising with "moderate" Pubs they relied on courts to mandate that it's okay to kill babies. I pray to GOD that abortions are severely curtailed and could care less what the radical leftists worry about.