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Trump caves after negative images, pressure from family
« on: June 21, 2018, 12:46:51 pm »
The Memo: Trump caves after negative images, pressure from family
By Niall Stanage - 06/21/18 06:00 AM EDT



President Trump performed a rare U-turn on Wednesday amid criticism from all sides over the separation of children from their parents at the border.

The verdict from people in and around the White House was that the pressure had become just too much to withstand — including from his own family members.

A White House official told The Hill on Wednesday that first lady Melania Trump had been “sharing her opinion with her husband for several days” on the matter.

The official said the first lady had been doing so “feeling it important to do all he can to keep families together whether through legislative action or something on his own.”

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Re: Trump caves after negative images, pressure from family
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2018, 01:15:40 pm »
As predicted, Trump's executive Order already is being attacked as illegal by Democrats, who say that putting children into detention with their parents violates a Court Order.

Children 'Don’t Need Jail.' Immigration Advocates Say President Trump's Executive Order Creates Even More Problems

http://time.com/5317866/trump-executive-order-family-separation-immigration/

This was exactly what Trump knew would happen.  He is eventually going to be ordered to release those children -- separating them from their parents -- by a court.  At that point, the Democrat true agenda -- catch and release for parents -- can no longer hide behind children.  And that's where Trump is going to draw the line.

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Re: Trump caves after negative images, pressure from family
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2018, 01:28:53 pm »
The only solution acceptable to the Dems is open borders for everyone.
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Re: Trump caves after negative images, pressure from family
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2018, 01:38:47 pm »
The only solution acceptable to the Dems is open borders for everyone.

But.... only for America.  Notice.... they're not chastising any other nation for enforcing their borders.  Just America.  Why that is, you wonder? 

It's their Cloward-Piven agenda.  That's why.  They think it is their means to total power here.  Once they collapse the economy completely (just like Bill Maher recently mentioned), they plan to rise to power in total (totalitarian) control.  When that happens, the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights will have been just an annoying, distant memory to them.  One that they finally managed to do away with.
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Re: Trump caves after negative images, pressure from family
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2018, 02:17:17 pm »
The only solution acceptable to the Dems is open borders for everyone.

Open borders and no one being arrested for breaking the law because you know...it's "only a misdemeanor".
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Re: Trump caves after negative images, pressure from family
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2018, 02:23:15 pm »
Open borders and no one being arrested for breaking the law because you know...it's "only a misdemeanor".

The only law they'll enforce is arresting somebody for saying something they consider to be racist.

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Re: Trump caves after negative images, pressure from family
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2018, 02:30:12 pm »
It probably wasn't just Melania I am sure Ivanka was probably vocal also.  Bottom line is that we know that so far every time it counted Trump caved.  Family separation was the biggest and only deterrent since the invasion of our country began.   And it was done professionally and humanely.

It was a great thing zero tolerance and with a stroke of the pen it ended.  Did it satisfy the left?  No, only open borders will do that.  And here in Washington all of us taxpayers are strapped with paying legal fee's for illegal aliens.

Well just like the liberals I have a goal too.  Donald we know that you can rule by EO.  Please sign a new one to remove all families immediately upon processing so that we do not have to pay to imprison them or provide lawyers for them.

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Re: Trump caves after negative images, pressure from family
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2018, 02:42:18 pm »
Caves? Thank you Obama boot licker Niall Stanage for more of your Commie bullshit that makes the Hill one of the least read shit sites in America.

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Re: Trump caves after negative images, pressure from family
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2018, 02:43:25 pm »
Caves? Thank you Obama boot licker Niall Stanage for more of your Commie bullshit that makes the Hill one of the least read shit sites in America.

He did cave. There was nothing wrong with the policy in place,  he reacted to the faux outrage.

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Re: Trump caves after negative images, pressure from family
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2018, 02:48:48 pm »
He did cave. There was nothing wrong with the policy in place,  he reacted to the faux outrage.

Maybe Melania cut him off.....?  Makes men do cwazy things, ya know.
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« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2018, 02:53:03 pm »
Maybe Melania cut him off.....?  Makes men do cwazy things, ya know.

Remember the good old days when all First Ladies did was to show off the White House China?

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« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2018, 02:59:28 pm »
He did cave. There was nothing wrong with the policy in place,  he reacted to the faux outrage.

Exactly!
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Re: Trump caves after negative images, pressure from family
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2018, 03:02:09 pm »
Exactly!

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Just yesterday you were condemning him for the current policy demanding he should change it.  How the policy was hurting the child with Downs.
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« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2018, 03:26:55 pm »
@txradioguy
Just yesterday you were condemning him for the current policy demanding he should change it.  How the policy was hurting the child with Downs.

Actually I was defending his policy.  You and I were actually in agreement on the issue of Trump and his stance on zero tolerance.  On more than one thread on the topic as a matter of fact.

My issue was with that cretin Corey Lewandowski and the stupid womp womp sh*t coming out of his mouth on live TV.

Quit lying about what I said.  I don't play your stupid game with that BS.
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Re: Trump caves after negative images, pressure from family
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2018, 03:29:56 pm »
As predicted, Trump's executive Order already is being attacked as illegal by Democrats, who say that putting children into detention with their parents violates a Court Order.

Children 'Don’t Need Jail.' Immigration Advocates Say President Trump's Executive Order Creates Even More Problems

http://time.com/5317866/trump-executive-order-family-separation-immigration/

This was exactly what Trump knew would happen.  He is eventually going to be ordered to release those children -- separating them from their parents -- by a court.  At that point, the Democrat true agenda -- catch and release for parents -- can no longer hide behind children.  And that's where Trump is going to draw the line.

I wonder if at that point, where a judge orders the children released, Trump then orders the children to be detained in separate centers like they were before. I'm sure everyone will go nuts again, but that's what the law calls for and if we don't like it the law should be changed.
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Re: Trump caves after negative images, pressure from family
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2018, 03:34:13 pm »
He did cave. There was nothing wrong with the policy in place,  he reacted to the faux outrage.

Isn't his EO the same as the Cruz bill that would have kept families together until their case was resolved? The children are not being released into the country. They are being held with those claiming to be their parents.
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Re: Trump caves after negative images, pressure from family
« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2018, 03:36:14 pm »
Actually I was defending his policy.  You and I were actually in agreement on the issue of Trump and his stance on zero tolerance.  On more than one thread on the topic as a matter of fact.

My issue was with that cretin Corey Lewandowski and the stupid womp womp sh*t coming out of his mouth on live TV.

Quit lying about what I said.  I don't play your stupid game with that BS.

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Uh huh right.   Anything to complain about Trump right
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Re: Trump caves after negative images, pressure from family
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2018, 03:37:05 pm »
Cave? Hardly...just another example of six dimensional chess.
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Re: Trump caves after negative images, pressure from family
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2018, 03:45:47 pm »
But.... only for America.  Notice.... they're not chastising any other nation for enforcing their borders.  Just America.  Why that is, you wonder? 

It's their Cloward-Piven agenda.  That's why.  They think it is their means to total power here.  Once they collapse the economy completely (just like Bill Maher recently mentioned), they plan to rise to power in total (totalitarian) control.  When that happens, the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights will have been just an annoying, distant memory to them.  One that they finally managed to do away with.

And where will their road end?

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Re: Trump caves after negative images, pressure from family
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2018, 04:00:24 pm »
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Uh huh right.   Anything to complain about Trump right

@driftdiver

Uh-uh.  Go look at @txradioguy's posts from yesterday.  He was doing exactly what he told you----defending Trump's policy and condemning the rock-bottom stupidity of that cretin Lewandoski.

I know everything is about emotion on both sides these days, but let's try to stick to facts.

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@driftdiver

Uh-uh.  Go look at @txradioguy's posts from yesterday.  He was doing exactly what he told you----defending Trump's policy and condemning the rock-bottom stupidity of that cretin Lewandoski.

I know everything is about emotion on both sides these days, but let's try to stick to facts.

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« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2018, 04:24:15 pm »
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Apparently.  You haven't checked his posts to find out for yourself?

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Re: Trump caves after negative images, pressure from family
« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2018, 04:45:40 pm »

This was exactly what Trump knew would happen.  He is eventually going to be ordered to release those children -- separating them from their parents -- by a court.  At that point, the Democrat true agenda -- catch and release for parents -- can no longer hide behind children.  And that's where Trump is going to draw the line.

Bingo - and this is where's Trump's political ju-jitsu will prove winning.   Trump is giving up the separation policy, but not the zero tolerance policy.   That is why he is demanding a legislative fix - a fix that Congress is so far unwilling to provide.   But the public will not stand for returning to the old ways of not enforcing the law.   Politically, he's got 'em by the balls now.   
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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2018, 04:47:52 pm »
@txradioguy
Just yesterday you were condemning him for the current policy demanding he should change it.  How the policy was hurting the child with Downs.

He was for it before he was against it.

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« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2018, 04:48:19 pm »
I wonder if at that point, where a judge orders the children released, Trump then orders the children to be detained in separate centers like they were before. I'm sure everyone will go nuts again, but that's what the law calls for and if we don't like it the law should be changed.

That will indeed be the outcome - except this time Trump will have the cover of a court opinion for detaining the children separately,  assuming there are no other family members to care for them.   And at that point Trump will have the leverage he needs to force Congress to get off their partisan, irresponsible asses and act.   
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