Trump says he wasn't warned in 2016 about Russia threats. He was.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/31/politics/trump-2016-russia-warnings/index.html

Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump questioned on Thursday why the FBI never warned his campaign that Russians might try to infiltrate his team, despite being briefed on the matter in August 2016.  In a tweet, Trump echoed recent comments from conservative radio host Rush Limbaugh, who lambasted the FBI and claimed that the bureau never raised the issue with Trump or his campaign.

"RUSH LIMBAUGH: 'If the FBI was so concerned, and if they weren't targeting Trump, they should have told Trump. If they were really concerned about the Russians infiltrating a campaign (hoax), then why not try to stop it? Why not tell Trump? Because they were pushing this scam,'" Trump wrote on Twitter.

Trump has pressed this point throughout the past week. During a Memorial Day weekend full of tweets about the Russia probe, Trump wrote, "why didn't the crooked highest levels of the FBI or 'Justice' contact me to tell me of the phony Russia problem?"

But these claims ignore the fact that Trump was personally warned in August 2016 by senior US intelligence officials that foreign adversaries -- including Russia -- would likely attempt to infiltrate his team or gather intelligence about his campaign, according to sources familiar with the matter.

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As we now know Donald Trump prefers his intelligence briefings in the form of a coloring book, and therefore never recognized the threat.  He's calling mulligan...again.

[Jazzhead]

Generalized warnings aren't the point.  The article certainly doesn't suggest that Trump was warned regarding specific individuals that he or his campaign had recruited being under suspicion of having Russian ties.   Was he warned about Manafort, or Page, or Papdopolous?  Wouldn't that have been the protocol, to warn about specific individuals rather than let those individuals continue to serve the campaign? 

Count me as one who is deeply suspicious of the motives of the FBI.   

[Formerly Once-Ler]

Generalized warnings aren't the point.  The article certainly doesn't suggest that Trump was warned regarding specific individuals that he or his campaign had recruited being under suspicion of having Russian ties.   Was he warned about Manafort, or Page, or Papdopolous?

I don't know, but I wish they had warned Donald about his own son meeting with the ruskies.

[skeeter]

There're those unnamed 'sources familiar with the matter' again.

Can't really deny it when the sources and the memo are unidentified.

More pretend news from a pretend news organization.

[Cyber Liberty]

The FBI has earned so little faith in this matter, if I don't see or hear a tape, it didn't happen.  I'm not taking their word about a sunny day.

[corbe]

   Sadly, @Cyber Liberty I agree totally that the FBI, like the IRS has been fully weaponized and not worth shit in the credibility department. 
   I almost feel sorry for all those Agents that take their Oath to the Constitution seriously. 

[Fantom]

I don't know, but I wish they had warned Donald about his own son meeting with the ruskies.

You do know, it is all 'Bout a dossier compiled by the DNC/Hillary campaign colluding with Russia thru an English spy.

Sad sack @Once-Ler

[Formerly Once-Ler]

You do know, it is all 'Bout a dossier compiled by the DNC/Hillary campaign colluding with Russia thru an English spy.

Sad sack @Once-Ler

@Fantom
Believe what you wanna believe, I know every branch of our intelligence community says Russia interfered with our elections. I know Donny junior met with the Russians to dig up dirt on Hillary. And I know you're not worth calling a name.

[Fantom]

@Fantom
Believe what you wanna believe, I know every branch of our intelligence community says Russia interfered with our elections. I know Donny junior met with the Russians to dig up dirt on Hillary. And I know you're not worth calling a name.

So much for his love post. This is what defines @Once-Ler .

@mystery-ak

[Formerly Once-Ler]

So much for his love post. This is what defines @Once-Ler .

@mystery-ak

You do know, it is all 'Bout a dossier compiled by the DNC/Hillary campaign colluding with Russia thru an English spy.

Sad sack @Once-Ler

@Fantom @mystery-ak
I changed my mind.  Bite me moron.

[XenaLee]

The FBI has earned so little faith in this matter, if I don't see or hear a tape, it didn't happen.  I'm not taking their word about a sunny day.

Ditto that.  Yet another Obama legacy item, another 'first'.   Causation of total loss of trust in government agencies by the American public.  At least, by the ones that know what's going on.

[mystery-ak]

 @Once-Ler @Fantom

Come on both of you...it's Fri..have a beer..relax

[corbe]

      Take her advice, Drink moore Smoke.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

      Take her advice, Drink moore Smoke.

@corbe

I'm waiting for my Boehner package from UPS.

[Fantom]

@Once-Ler @Fantom

Come on both of you...it's Fri..have a beer..relax

Heh...

 I do work tomorrow. Punish me if you will, but I do enjoy tormenting the needy. My calling so's to speak Methinks. 

[mystery-ak]

@corbe

I'm waiting for my Boehner package from UPS.

Is he open for business..lol

[Jazzhead]

@Fantom
Believe what you wanna believe, I know every branch of our intelligence community says Russia interfered with our elections. I know Donny junior met with the Russians to dig up dirt on Hillary. And I know you're not worth calling a name.

@Once-Ler

No one disputes that Russia interfered in our elections.  Hell, we interfered in theirs.   And everybody recognizes that Donny Jr. is as craven as any other politician, with an ear to the ground for dirt on his opponents.   

But the issue is the motives of the FBI.  Trump was a political neophyte, and as you well recall had to recruit policy expertise in a hurry after it became clear that the dog just might catch the car.   If the FBI were concerned about Russian influence, about individuals that the Trump campaign had recruited that might have less than patriotic motives, and that could ultimately compromise national security,  then, shit man, why didn't the FBI advise the Trump campaign?   I mean specifically, with the names of those for whom the FBI held suspicions.   Isn't that the proper protocol, rather than let the infiltration continue with potentially dire consequences?   

Unless of course the FBI's motivations were less than pure,  and they (or their leadership) were more interested in seeing the Trump campaign compromised than to blunt Russian influence over the election.

 

[mystery-ak]

Heh...

 I do work tomorrow. Punish me if you will, but I do enjoy tormenting the needy. My calling so's to speak Methinks. 

Too bad about working tomorrow...you can still have a beer and turn on Live PD..lol

[skeeter]

@Once-Ler

No one disputes that Russia interfered in our elections.  Hell, we interfered in theirs.   And everybody recognizes that Donny Jr. is as craven as any other politician, with an ear to the ground for dirt on his opponents.   

But the issue is the motives of the FBI.  Trump was a political neophyte, and as you well recall had to recruit policy expertise in a hurry after it became clear that the dog just might catch the car.   If the FBI were concerned about Russian influence, about individuals that the Trump campaign had recruited that might have less than patriotic motives, and that could ultimately compromise national security,  then, shit man, why didn't the FBI advise the Trump campaign?   I mean specifically, with the names of those who the FBI held suspicions.   Isn't that the proper protocol, rather than let the infiltration continue with potentially dire consequences?   

Unless of course the FBI's motivations were less than pure,  and they (or their leadership) were more interested in seeing the Trump campaign compromised than to blunt Russian influence over the election.

 

QFT

[Fantom]

Too bad about working tomorrow...you can still have a beer and turn on Live PD..lol

My boss is an azzhoe...unfortunately.... he is me.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

@Once-Ler

No one disputes that Russia interfered in our elections.  Hell, we interfered in theirs.   And everybody recognizes that Donny Jr. is as craven as any other politician, with an ear to the ground for dirt on his opponents.   

But the issue is the motives of the FBI.  Trump was a political neophyte, and as you well recall had to recruit policy expertise in a hurry after it became clear that the dog just might catch the car.   If the FBI were concerned about Russian influence, about individuals that the Trump campaign had recruited that might have less than patriotic motives, and that could ultimately compromise national security,  then, shit man, why didn't the FBI advise the Trump campaign?   I mean specifically, with the names of those for whom the FBI held suspicions.   Isn't that the proper protocol, rather than let the infiltration continue with potentially dire consequences?   

Unless of course the FBI's motivations were less than pure,  and they (or their leadership) were more interested in seeing the Trump campaign compromised than to blunt Russian influence over the election.
 

@Jazzhead
I wouldn't know.  I don't have the evidence that the IC has.  Trey Gowdy has some of it and he said “Based on what I have seen, I don’t know what the FBI could have done or should have done other than run out a lead that someone loosely connected with the campaign was making assertions about Russia. I would think you would want the FBI to find whether or not there was any validity to what those people were saying.”

[Fantom]

@ Bite me Maroon.

That would be .."Bite me Maroon." @Once-Ler  FTFY.

Your kind has taken this Cruz man, shown him a madness even the far left does not conjure up in the likes of Olberman/obama.

No thank you where you are at, I'll choose Maroon.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

That would be .."Bite me Maroon." @Once-Ler  FTFY.

Your kind has taken this Cruz man, shown him a madness even the far left does not conjure up in the likes of Olberman/obama.

No thank you where you are at, I'll choose Maroon.

@Fantom
I'm putting you back on ignore for a few months.  There...I just doubled my list.

[Oceander]

@Fantom
Believe what you wanna believe, I know every branch of our intelligence community says Russia interfered with our elections. I know Donny junior met with the Russians to dig up dirt on Hillary. And I know you're not worth calling a name.

[Jazzhead]

@Jazzhead
I wouldn't know.  I don't have the evidence that the IC has.  Trey Gowdy has some of it and he said “Based on what I have seen, I don’t know what the FBI could have done or should have done other than run out a lead that someone loosely connected with the campaign was making assertions about Russia. I would think you would want the FBI to find whether or not there was any validity to what those people were saying.”

@Once-Ler

Again, the issue isn't the FBI running out a lead.  That's their job.  It is the matter of what the FBI did, or didn't, do with the information.  If there were individuals with less than patriotic motives the FBI knew about,  the FBI should have revealed that to the Trump campaign.  Or so it seems to me, in the context of an active race for the Presidency.    The FBI is not supposed to take sides in an election, not supposed to run down leads by entrapment of the candidate, or by silence allow the infiltration to continue.