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Luis Gutierrez: Be ready to storm Washington if Trump fires Russia investigators
by Anna Giaritelli
 | April 11, 2018 01:26 PM

Retiring Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., said Wednesday that people who oppose President Trump must be ready to "quickly" descend on Washington if the "tyrant" in the Oval Office attempts to fire people investigating his supposed ties to Russia.

"We have to be ready to come to Washington, quickly, massively, energetically, in huge numbers when the shoe drops. We have to answer the call to defend the country we all love and we must be united," Gutierrez said on the House floor Wednesday morning.

"The president reiterated his threats to subvert justice by firing key Justice officials this week, so I feel obligated to reiterate my commitment to defend the Constitution and the rule of law as a citizen," he added. "We must be ready to stand up again and again and answer the call when our nation is under attack and threatened by a tyrant."

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Could the rats be more pumped to vote in Nov?

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Could the rats be more pumped to vote in Nov?

I don't know. How pumped are you?

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Could the rats be more pumped to vote in Nov?

Gutierrez is confirming the report yesterday that Mueller was goading Trump into firing him. Mueller, having found nothing at all to pin on Trump, now is trying to cause a general disruption in the operation of the White House and Congress. Mueller is going scorched Earth. "If I can't charge Trump with something, then I'll just screw him some other way!" He did the illegal office raid as insurance. Now, if Trump fires him, Mueller will no doubt declare that he was only inches away from indicting Trump with serious crimes. Mueller is a skunk. He is rat. And his only goal is to disrupt the Trump administration as much and in any way that he can.

But, this does not protect Sessions or Rosenstein.
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Gutierrez is confirming the report yesterday that Mueller was goading Trump into firing him. Mueller, having found nothing at all to pin on Trump, now is trying to cause a general disruption in the operation of the White House and Congress. Mueller is going scorched Earth. "If I can't charge Trump with something, then I'll just screw him some other way!" He did the illegal office raid as insurance. Now, if Trump fires him, Mueller will no doubt declare that he was only inches away from indicting Trump with serious crimes. Mueller is a skunk. He is rat. And his only goal is to disrupt the Trump administration as much and in any way that he can.

But, this does not protect Sessions or Rosenstein.
Is Guiterrez calling for insurrection? Why, there oughta be a law! Oh wait, I think there is....
Kick that Sumbeech out for inciting civil unrest.


And since when is Muller investigating anything to do with Russia again?
« Last Edit: April 11, 2018, 09:05:31 pm by Smokin Joe »
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I don't know. How pumped are you?

Not at all.

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The frustrating thing is that it appears that the Dems appear to be nationalizing this fall's elections into a referendum on Trump.   Now perhaps that will motivate Trump's hard core of supporters to getting out there and voting for their local GOP candidates.  But my instinct is that nationalizing the election over Trump is mostly going to benefit the Dems, since Trump makes even many Republicans recoil in horror.     

The counter must be to nationalize the election, but on terms that can galvanize Republican voters and others that ought rightly to fear what will happen if the Dems regain control and raise taxes, destroy the economy and take away important Constitutional rights.   
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The frustrating thing is that it appears that the Dems appear to be nationalizing this fall's elections into a referendum on Trump.   Now perhaps that will motivate Trump's hard core of supporters to getting out there and voting for their local GOP candidates.  But my instinct is that nationalizing the election over Trump is mostly going to benefit the Dems, since Trump makes even many Republicans recoil in horror.     

The counter must be to nationalize the election, but on terms that can galvanize Republican voters and others that ought rightly to fear what will happen if the Dems regain control and raise taxes, destroy the economy and take away important Constitutional rights.

Herding cats is easier than galvanizing conservative voters.  Say what you will, but Trump managed to find a way to do it better than any GOP candidate since Reagan.

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Luis is suddenly concerned about rule of law?  Interesting.

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Herding cats is easier than galvanizing conservative voters.  Say what you will, but Trump managed to find a way to do it better than any GOP candidate since Reagan.
Trump found a common thread in center to conservative America: frustration and anger.
He whipped that into a frenzy and aimed it at the Democrats in the election (and anyone else who got in his way).

Unfortunately for the Congress, in the absence of further excuses for not repealing the ACA, not funding that wall, and spending money we don't have hand over fist on the Democrats' pet stuff, that anger will be directed AT them, not BY them.

The GOP(e) Congress has crapped in their mess kit, and it's suppertime. People are still angry, but the focus has changed.  And yes, they are angry at the Democrats, who have skated on far worse crimes than they even accuse Trump of while all this crap is flying about. Some are still angry with Trump for his conduct during the primaries, even though, at this point that's a wasted effort, imho. (We have what we have at this point, let's see what we can get done). It is the Congressional GOP who have abandoned the people who voted them in.
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Luis is suddenly concerned about rule of law?  Interesting.
Yeah, even while suborning insurrection.  :pondering:
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The frustrating thing is that it appears that the Dems appear to be nationalizing this fall's elections into a referendum on Trump.   Now perhaps that will motivate Trump's hard core of supporters to getting out there and voting for their local GOP candidates.  But my instinct is that nationalizing the election over Trump is mostly going to benefit the Dems, since Trump makes even many Republicans recoil in horror.     

The counter must be to nationalize the election, but on terms that can galvanize Republican voters and others that ought rightly to fear what will happen if the Dems regain control and raise taxes, destroy the economy and take away important Constitutional rights.   


    In spite of these Early (Worthless) polls 35/50% +/- that the Trumpers keep posting, Trump has done nothing to excite Republican Voters outside of his hard core base and even loss a hearty chunk in signing his 'WINNING' budget.  We'll see if Republicans 'buy in', again to Einstein's definition of insanity.

   Oops, off topic.
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    In spite of these Early (Worthless) polls 35/50% +/- that the Trumpers keep posting, Trump has done nothing to excite Republican Voters outside of his hard core base and even loss a hearty chunk in signing his 'WINNING' budget.  We'll see if Republicans 'buy in', again to Einstein's definition of insanity.

   Oops, off topic.
I was admittedly happy to see him, early on, rescind a few rules and allow a pipeline to (finally) be completed. That's a half million barrels of oil not traveling by rail, getting to refineries cheaper than by train, and a wee bit less money in Warren Buffett's pocket (a wee bit, because a lot of oil still goes out by rail). Not to mention quite a few raving lunatic ecowhacko criminal types no longer in our State. Crime dropped when they left. I'm good with all that,  but I wasn't a Trump voter, and no longer am a Republican, so I don't fit the study group.

It has only been since this egregious mediafest/witch hunt and the incredible porosity and permeability of his staff and agencies which enabled that, that he has had difficulty dealing with the office. If the GOPe were not lining up their groomed usual suspects in the wings to return to the Obama era bid'ness as usual, he might be doing better. Yes, he owns some of the disruption via Twitter, and his past history (before office), but that should come as no surprise to anyone who was paying attention. As for the rest, he can only sign what Congress gets to the desk, and the Congress has failed miserably to deliver. It's on them, as far as I am concerned, and they will claim it is a referendum on Trump to, once again, avoid owning up to their own failures.
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Retiring Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., said Wednesday that people who oppose President Trump must be ready to "quickly" descend on Washington if the "tyrant" in the Oval Office attempts to fire people investigating his supposed ties to Russia.
Yeah, and when that kindof Marxist Revolutionista crap happens, I like to imagine myself having an A-10 on loan from the 122nd with the Avenger capped up full with DU for strafing runs on the red mob marching on the mall.  Sure makes me smile big inside with the kind of visual imagination I got.
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Yeah, and when that kindof Marxist Revolutionista crap happens, I like to imagine myself having an A-10 on loan from the 122nd with the Avenger capped up full with DU for strafing runs on the red mob marching on the mall.  Sure makes me smile big inside with the kind of visual imagination I got.
Ironic that all these Marxists are having cartwheeling sh*tfits over alleged ties to Russia.

Makes you think about who has what ties where.....

Besides, Hillary already sold them plenty of Uranium....
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    In spite of these Early (Worthless) polls 35/50% +/- that the Trumpers keep posting, Trump has done nothing to excite Republican Voters outside of his hard core base and even loss a hearty chunk in signing his 'WINNING' budget. We'll see if Republicans 'buy in', again to Einstein's definition of insanity.

   Oops, off topic.
Really?  That tax cut helped a lot of people, and his continued support for the Second Amendment carries a lot of weight, even in Democrat strongholds.
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Really?  That tax cut helped a lot of people, and his continued support for the Second Amendment carries a lot of weight, even in Democrat strongholds.

Paul Ryan and the Congressional leadership was responsible for the tax bill, not President Trump.    And I doubt that the President has the intellectual curiosity to understand what's at stake with the Second Amendment post-Heller. 
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Luis is suddenly concerned about rule of law?  Interesting.

Lipstick Luis has never been concern about anything except getting his pig face infront of a WLS TV Camera.
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Paul Ryan and the Congressional leadership was responsible for the tax bill, not President Trump.    And I doubt that the President has the intellectual curiosity to understand what's at stake with the Second Amendment post-Heller.

And, you really think it would have occurred to Ryan to propose a tax cut all on his own?

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Really?  That tax cut helped a lot of people, and his continued support for the Second Amendment carries a lot of weight, even in Democrat strongholds.

The tax cuts were a step forward (in the right direction).... but then signing the porkulus bill was a two-step-backward move, IMO.  It's a pattern with Trump, seems like.

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And, you really think it would have occurred to Ryan to propose a tax cut all on his own?

Why yes!  Ryan has been an advocate of growth-oriented tax reform for years.  I give Trump very little credit for the new tax bill. 

Ryan's also been an advocate of entitlement reform, but that is of course a bridge too far for President.  Just kick the entitlement bomb down the road to next generation.   
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Paul Ryan and the Congressional leadership was responsible for the tax bill, not President Trump.

He signed it, so he is responsible.  Period.
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   Trumps made noise recently about work requirements for Gov. bennies, if he follows through on this (not just red meat for his base), it would be a hell of a start in the direction of entitlement reform.
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