Author Topic: I Refuse to Lose My Mind Over the Omnibus Fiasco, and So Should You Kurt Schlichter  (Read 3908 times)

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That's a good idea, WN - at first on a stationary bike at the gym.

Recumbent bike.  Much easier on the back, and it's better for extending your ROM.  I am sorry, @Jazzhead, but this is going to take a year.   **nononono*
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I suppose it could be that dimensional chess, but the problem is that the national debt has now been increased by how many more trillion dollars?  And, PP has gotten an additional 1/2 billion, and the wall isn't funded...etc.

I know.  It's a betrayal of every Conservative principle there is.  But then... 

we Conservatives should be getting used to that by now.   **nononono*
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I know.  It's a betrayal of every Conservative principle there is.  But then... 

we Conservatives should be getting used to that by now.   **nononono*

Happens every single time you abandon principles for pragmatism.
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Happens every single time you abandon principles for pragmatism.

Nonsense. 

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That is just pure bullshit.

I was aware of the previous CR.  It is not clear to me how the Treasury doles out previously-authorized funds, but I will assume for purposes of this post, in response to your own politely incendiary post (LOL), that the basic operations of the military would have continued.  But now Trump can start building the wall and mobilizing assets for other extraordinary defense issues that he alone may have identified.  I have no basis for second-guessing him.  (And I do want him to start building the wall--which he could probably never get funded apart from an omnibus bill.)

More importantly, I believe that Trump's larger (and, at this time, quietly ongoing) program against the Deep State is much bigger and more important than I suggested when I mentioned only the military and the DOJ and the intelligence community.  I suspect that the white hats in the FBI and the State Department and DHS and ICE need to stay on the job at full-strength staffing levels with no distractions.  I would point out that the OIG's huge organization within the DOJ is crucially important to the White House's momentum and tempo at this time--as is the DHS.  And all of these agencies that I have mentioned are interconnected with practically all of the other agencies of the federal government.  The intelligence community, for example, is seventeen different agencies that are surely tied to everything from cafeterias to crapper cleaners.  (Pardon my profane speech.) 

We often say, Hey, a shutdown is no big deal.  But I am not sure that is always true.  It depends on what needs to get done during a shutdown.  And that depends on what POTUS sees as looming up on the horizon.  (I personally think we are headed for pretty hard times in America;  I just don't know when it will hit us like a ton of bricks.)

Finally, I would ask you to tell me why you think Trump signed the bill.  Heck (again, please overlook my profanity), until now, Trump has scoffed at folks who have been afraid to shut down the government--and he knows that he has gotten enthusiastic support for that scoffing;  that being the case, I will not accept your answer if you say he is just trying to curry favor with the Dems--or that he is afraid of a backlash of disgruntlement.  And I think that when these explanations are taken off the table, we are left with my answer:  national security.

Anyway, let's wait and see what happens over the next several weeks.   
« Last Edit: March 26, 2018, 09:15:08 pm by the_doc »

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Nope.  I like this note.  I'll keep singing it because you people kept shoving your note down everyone's throat during the last election and since then.


So whatever happened to this great 'Art of the deal-maker' you promised and insisted your leader was?  This invulnerable outsider who was going to MAGA?

Whatever happened to your insistences that Trump was going to 'drain the swamp' by the mere power of his presence and the might of his breath once he got into the Oval office?

Either he was full of shit from the beginning and like gullible lemmings, you jumped right off the cliff with him, or you people knew he was full of shit and pushed him on voters because you just wanted to watch him make the media squirm.

In any case, it demonstrates that you Trump supporters have no discernible judgment skills we should trust or acknowledge as having any validity to consider.

    Bears Repeating.

    The icing on the cake was the insistence that the Trumpers were gonna 'hold his Feet to the Fire' on his Campaign Promises. FAIL!
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But now Trump can start building the wall and mobilizing assets for other extraordinary defense issues that he alone may have identified.  I have no basis for second-guessing him.  (And I do want him to start building the wall--which he could probably never get funded apart from an omnibus bill.)

Sadly my friend, you bought into more bullshit:

Trump's claim — that the $1.6 billion triggers work starting on the wall he's promised — is false. The funds earmarked for border protection construction and improvements can be used only to repair and build previously approved fencing, according to the bill. There is $38 million in funds earmarked for their planning and design of border walls, but none for the construction of a new kind of wall like the prototypes Trump recently toured in San Diego.

Finally, I would ask you to tell me why you think Trump signed the bill.

Because he has no core but himself and his own promotion and adoration factor.  He is always on every single side of every issue and gives every side what they want to hear - and ends up always giving money and support to Democrat issues and agendas, the same as he has done his whole life.

Anyway, let's wait and see what happens over the next several weeks.   

We are always told that.  Then we are told to wait until next year.  Then we are told we need to wait until Trump's term is over before we judge him.

Sorry - we are fast approaching the time when we cannot cover the interest payments on the exponentially growing debt.  So, I'm not gonna wait to see what happens in the next few weeks, months, years, etc.

We already know what is going to happen.

We just don't know exactly when all this fiat garbage blows up in all our faces and we collapse into economic (and literal) rubble.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2018, 09:25:13 pm by INVAR »
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@INVAR

I don't think you are up to date on what is going on. 

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@INVAR

I don't think you are up to date on what is going on.

Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Recumbent bike.  Much easier on the back, and it's better for extending your ROM.  I am sorry, @Jazzhead, but this is going to take a year.   **nononono*

A whole year? Gawd I hope not.  My friend, who is concerned about his health....said he may not be able to hold off the insults for that long. 
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A whole year? Gawd I hope not.  My friend, who is concerned about his health....said he may not be able to hold off the insults for that long.

We're talking about a severed tendon.  Yeah, pretty much a year.  And that's if he rehabs it the whole time.  BTDT.
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Mr. Schlichter also has a couple of "set not far into the future" novels out about what might happen after a hillary clinton victory in 2020 and a subsequent breakup of the USA:
"People's Republic"
"Indian Country"


Reading the latter now -- quite interesting.

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The problem is that guys like Schlicter who are supporting this are essentially admitting one thing - that we cannot fund the FedGov without massive deficits year after year.

So posture all you like, but that position essentially blows everything to bits and makes things from here pretty much meaningless.
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The problem is that guys like Schlicter who are supporting this are essentially admitting one thing - that we cannot fund the FedGov without massive deficits year after year.

We CAN....we just won't.
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We CAN....we just won't.

Actually we can't - not without entitlement reform.  And neither party has the will to confront the elephant in the room.   
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Actually we can't - not without entitlement reform.  And neither party has the will to confront the elephant in the room.

That’s because it’ll draw the ire from the recipients of these programs if Washington were to take them on. In that sense, voters share just as much blame for our fiscal situation as the people they vote for
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