Author Topic: Joe Scarborough Gets Mauled by Ted Cruz in Gun Control Debate (Read 1398 times)

libertybele · « **on:** March 08, 2018, 01:26:43 pm »

Joe, made a fool out of himself! Did he not know the Cruz was the counselor of record in the Heller case?

Joe Scarborough Gets Mauled by Ted Cruz in Gun Control Debate

Throughout their exchange, Scarborough dishonestly tried to pretend that he knew more about the Supreme Court than Cruz, even though the senator has personally argued nine cases before them. As one might expect, Scarborough wasnâ€™t quite up to the task of proving himself a distinguished constitutional scholar.

But before he made a fool out of himself by trying to outsmart Cruz on how the Supreme Court works, Scarborough parroted the now-omnipresent liberal talking point that AR-15s are uniquely destructive weapons.....

..........Cruz countered Joeâ€™s propaganda by correctly pointing out that many different semi-automatic hunting rifles exist that match the AR-15â€™s deadly potential:

Joe, the firing mechanisms -- the lethality of an AR-15 is indistinguishable from many deer rifles. When we were having this debate in 2013, Diane Feinstein proposed her so-called assault weapons ban. I put up a picture of one of the most common deer rifles in America, owned by millions of Americans. Under the statute she introduced, that was not a quote â€œassault rifle.â€ And then I held up a $5.99 little plastic handle. If you attached the plastic handle to it, suddenly it was a banned assault weapon.

Unable to respond to the substance of Cruzâ€™s argument (or perhaps unable to comprehend it), Scarborough asked Cruz whether a deer rifle can really be as lethal as an AR-15 (it can):

SCARBOROUGH: So, your argument here is that deer rifles are just as lethal if somebody takes-

CRUZ: [interjecting] The firing mechanism is functionally the same............

.............CRUZ: So Joe, my argument is two-fold. Going after the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens, it doesnâ€™t work. It was actually the Bill Clinton Justice Department that concluded that the assault weapons ban had zero statistical impact.............

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/chrisreeves/2018/03/07/ted-cruz-battles-with-morning-joe-over-gun-control-n2458592

Frank Cannon · « **Reply #1 on:** March 08, 2018, 01:41:05 pm »

The best part of the article is at the bottom where some dude calls out Moron Joe for his voting record.

txradioguy · « **Reply #2 on:** March 08, 2018, 02:12:55 pm »

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Scarborough parroted the now-omnipresent liberal talking point that AR-15s are uniquely destructive weapons.....

That belief is stupid on sooo many levels.

TomSea · « **Reply #3 on:** March 08, 2018, 02:23:32 pm »

Oh boy! Won a debate; much more than Governors Perry, Walker, Kasich and Christie ever did, all they ever did was get Planned Parenthood clinics closed down or turn their states' economies around in some cases.

txradioguy · « **Reply #4 on:** March 08, 2018, 02:24:15 pm »

Quote from: TomSea on March 08, 2018, 02:23:32 pm

Oh boy! Won a debate; much more than Governors Perry, Walker, Kasich and Christie ever did, all they ever did was get Planned Parenthood clinics closed down or turn their states' economies around in some cases.

You're an idiot.

Night Hides Not · « **Reply #5 on:** March 08, 2018, 04:22:53 pm »

Quote from: txradioguy on March 08, 2018, 02:24:15 pm

You're an idiot.

Youâ€™re paying a disservice to idiots everywhere. Heâ€™s just upset that, while Ted is untouchable in a debate, Trumpâ€™s arguments are rarely expressed in complete sentences.

Is it such a bad thing to expect our POTUS to communicate clearly?

txradioguy · « **Reply #6 on:** March 08, 2018, 05:23:23 pm »

Quote from: Night Hides Not on March 08, 2018, 04:22:53 pm

Youâ€™re paying a disservice to idiots everywhere. Heâ€™s just upset that, while Ted is untouchable in a debate, Trumpâ€™s arguments are rarely expressed in complete sentences.

Is it such a bad thing to expect our POTUS to communicate clearly?

Appearantly our President not speaking clearly...at least according to some folks...is part of what makes him such political genius.

XenaLee · « **Reply #7 on:** March 08, 2018, 05:27:36 pm »

Quote from: Night Hides Not on March 08, 2018, 04:22:53 pm

Youâ€™re paying a disservice to idiots everywhere. Heâ€™s just upset that, while Ted is untouchable in a debate, Trumpâ€™s arguments are rarely expressed in complete sentences.

Is it such a bad thing to expect our POTUS to communicate clearly?

And/or consistently.

Night Hides Not · « **Reply #8 on:** March 08, 2018, 09:52:57 pm »

Quote from: XenaLee on March 08, 2018, 05:27:36 pm

And/or consistently.

One thing at a time, maâ€™am.

GrouchoTex · « **Reply #9 on:** March 08, 2018, 10:00:13 pm »

Quote from: Night Hides Not on March 08, 2018, 09:52:57 pm

One thing at a time, maâ€™am.

After all, we wouldn't want any heads exploding, or anything like that...........

sneakypete · « **Reply #10 on:** March 08, 2018, 10:31:49 pm »

Arguing over the question "Is the AR-15 as deadly as a deer rifle?" only proves they are BOTH clueless fools.

It's illegal to hunt deer with a .223 caliber rifle in most states because they aren't considered powerful enough to be make humane kills on deer-sized wildlife.

BTW,didn't Cruz just support some new gun control proposal?

Sanguine · « **Reply #11 on:** March 08, 2018, 10:36:54 pm »

Quote from: sneakypete on March 08, 2018, 10:31:49 pm

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BTW,didn't Cruz just support some new gun control proposal?

Is this what you meant, Pete:

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Cruz caught in election-year bind on gun control

by Jonathan Allen

WASHINGTON â€” Sen. Ted Cruz is in a pinch on gun control.

Cruz has been aligned throughout his career with the most ardently anti-regulation gun owners in the country, and they oppose a bill sponsored by Cruz's fellow Texas Republican, Sen. John Cornyn. Cornyn's legislation, co-sponsored by Sen. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., would force greater participation in the National Instant Criminal Background Checks System (NICS) to ensure that all information is up-to-date.

If Cruz, who is up for re-election this year, sides with the hard-liners this time, he'll be at odds with both his Democratic challenger, Rep. Beto O'Rourke, and the National Rifle Association, which has endorsed the Cornyn bill. O'Rourke has raised nearly $8.7 million for the race, giving some Democrats hope they can flip a state that hasn't elected one of them to the Senate since 1988.

So far, Cruz hasn't taken a position on the Cornyn-Murphy bill...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/cruz-caught-election-year-bind-gun-control-n852016

It's NBC so you know there's an agenda...

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #12 on:** March 08, 2018, 10:56:52 pm »

Quote from: TomSea on March 08, 2018, 02:23:32 pm

Oh boy! Won a debate; much more than Governors Perry, Walker, Kasich and Christie ever did, all they ever did was get Planned Parenthood clinics closed down or turn their states' economies around in some cases.

For the record, Tom, I don't think you are an idiot. I've seen you make many intelligent arguments.

I do believe your hatred for Ted Cruz is coloring your opinion of the man's accomplishments.

sneakypete · « **Reply #13 on:** March 08, 2018, 11:28:00 pm »

Quote from: Sanguine on March 08, 2018, 10:36:54 pm

Is this what you meant, Pete:

It's NBC so you know there's an agenda...

@Sanguine

Yes,but thank you for supplying more than just the headlines.

Frank Cannon · « **Reply #14 on:** March 08, 2018, 11:36:12 pm »

Quote from: Night Hides Not on March 08, 2018, 04:22:53 pm

Is it such a bad thing to expect our POTUS to communicate clearly?

I can't even remember a President that spoke clearly. Obama stuttered like he had a mental affliction and Bush couldn't pronounce a word to save his life.

edpc · « **Reply #15 on:** March 08, 2018, 11:41:01 pm »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 08, 2018, 10:56:52 pm

For the record, Tom, I don't think you are an idiot. I've seen you make many intelligent arguments.

I do believe your hatred for Ted Cruz is coloring your opinion of the man's accomplishments.

Ever the diplomat Cyber. If TBR had a cabinet, you'd be SoS - UN Ambassador at the very least.

edpc · « **Reply #16 on:** March 08, 2018, 11:45:58 pm »

Quote from: Frank Cannon on March 08, 2018, 11:36:12 pm

I can't even remember a President that spoke clearly. Obama stuttered like he had a mental affliction and Bush couldn't pronounce a word to save his life.

Nonsense. Obama's impression of Porky Pig was brilliant and the way Bush turned an idiom into a The Who classic was world beating.

Cyber Liberty · « **Reply #17 on:** March 08, 2018, 11:47:14 pm »

Quote from: edpc on March 08, 2018, 11:41:01 pm

Ever the diplomat Cyber. If TBR had a cabinet, you'd be SoS - UN Ambassador at the very least.

Not making it up. I like Tom, but I think he has an itch for Cruz as a residue from the Trump War.

IsailedawayfromFR · « **Reply #18 on:** March 09, 2018, 12:31:22 am »

One has to be classically stupid to argue with Ted about almost anything.

GtHawk · « **Reply #19 on:** March 09, 2018, 12:34:05 am »

Quote from: Frank Cannon on March 08, 2018, 11:36:12 pm

I can't even remember a President that spoke clearly. Obama stuttered like he had a mental affliction and Bush couldn't pronounce a word to save his life.

I can actually remember three, no four, Eisenhower, Kennedy, Nixon and Reagan. Ford was an almost.

sneakypete · « **Reply #20 on:** March 09, 2018, 12:35:31 am »

Quote from: IsailedawayfromFR on March 09, 2018, 12:31:22 am

One has to be classically stupid to argue with Ted about almost anything.

@IsailedawayfromFR

There can be no doubt about it,Cruz is a smart guy,and he always comes prepared.

There is just something "smarmy" about his personality/appearance that I don't like or trust. Plus he is from Texas. NEVER trust anyone from Texas.

Sanguine · « **Reply #21 on:** March 09, 2018, 12:36:43 am »

Quote from: sneakypete on March 09, 2018, 12:35:31 am

@IsailedawayfromFR

There can be no doubt about it,Cruz is a smart guy,and he always comes prepared.

There is just something "smarmy" about his personality/appearance that I don't like or trust. Plus he is from Texas. NEVER trust anyone from Texas.

GtHawk · « **Reply #22 on:** March 09, 2018, 02:01:51 am »

Quote from: sneakypete on March 09, 2018, 12:35:31 am

@IsailedawayfromFR

There can be no doubt about it,Cruz is a smart guy,and he always comes prepared.

There is just something "smarmy" about his personality/appearance that I don't like or trust. Plus he is from Texas. NEVER trust anyone from Texas.

Could be worse, he could be from New York

Emjay · « **Reply #23 on:** March 09, 2018, 02:23:21 am »

Quote from: Cyber Liberty on March 08, 2018, 10:56:52 pm

For the record, Tom, I don't think you are an idiot. I've seen you make many intelligent arguments.

I do believe your hatred for Ted Cruz is coloring your opinion of the man's accomplishments.

For some reason two words posted here turn many people into idiots. Ted Cruz.

I do wish people could express themselves without insulting others. I had to leave the Tariff thread because people would not stop with the personal insults when I disagreed with them.

I don't believe we should indulge in censorship here, but one would think adults could censor themselves a little better.

InHeavenThereIsNoBeer · « **Reply #24 on:** March 09, 2018, 02:24:08 am »

Quote from: edpc on March 08, 2018, 11:41:01 pm

Ever the diplomat Cyber. If TBR had a cabinet, you'd be SoS - UN Ambassador at the very least.

SoS?

That's hitting below the belt.