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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2018, 10:25:51 pm »
Quote from: Free Vulcan on February 28, 2018, 10:12:33 pm
Here is the video from the meeting, Trump's own words.

http://launch.newsinc.com/embed.html?trackingGroup=91690&siteSection=ndn&videoId=33587463

Yikes.   He just keeps shooting himself in the foot... and not even realizing it.   Not very bright.  Not bright at all.... tsk tsk.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #26 on: February 28, 2018, 10:28:12 pm »
Quote from: Suppressed on February 28, 2018, 09:39:30 pm
So he'd be okay with a coup to remove the weapons from his hands...."and worry about due process later..."

@Suppressed I can't wait for the apologists to arrive and start telling us why it would be perfectly acceptable for Trump to bypass the 4th Amendment.

Like I said the other day...the 2nd Amendment protects all the other Amendments.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #27 on: February 28, 2018, 10:30:29 pm »
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #28 on: February 28, 2018, 10:38:54 pm »
Quote from: txradioguy on February 28, 2018, 10:28:12 pm
@Suppressed I can't wait for the apologists to arrive and start telling us why it would be perfectly acceptable for Trump to bypass the 4th Amendment.

Like I said the other day...the 2nd Amendment protects all the other Amendments.


Wait until he finds out about all the money he can save on base housing by scrapping the third.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #29 on: February 28, 2018, 10:43:57 pm »
I can't believe Pence was able to keep a straight face and just nod solemnly.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #30 on: February 28, 2018, 11:11:48 pm »
Paging @Right_in_Virginia , Paging @Right_in_Virginia ...

We're patiently awaiting the Trumpsplaining/comedy routine. Please don't leave us hanging!
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #31 on: February 28, 2018, 11:28:42 pm »
This was spoken like a man who has had armed security in NYC for the last 30 years.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #32 on: February 28, 2018, 11:31:53 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on February 28, 2018, 10:43:57 pm
I can't believe Pence was able to keep a straight face and just nod solemnly.


He may not be aware that he is the only person in the administration that can speak his mind and not get fired.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #33 on: February 28, 2018, 11:33:01 pm »
Quote from: driftdiver on February 28, 2018, 11:28:42 pm
This was spoken like a man who has had armed security in NYC for the last 30 years.

And someone who supported Clinton's 1994 AWB.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #34 on: February 28, 2018, 11:41:13 pm »
I can’t wait for a Trumpsplanation of what dimension of chess he’s playing since @aligncare ‘s fake news accusation didn’t stick.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #35 on: February 28, 2018, 11:47:54 pm »
Feeling better about my vote for Darryl Castle

Trump's conservative roots don't run very deep, as they are relatively new.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #36 on: February 28, 2018, 11:51:42 pm »
The priests of Trump's cult of personality will be along shortly to absolve you all of your sin of failing to recognize Trump's genius in this statement.  But only upon repentance with the admission that Trump has single-handedly taken the gun control agenda away from Democrats and made it his own personal agenda, and likewise the GOP's.

Higher deficit spending, ObamaCare permanent, Amnesty pushed, Wall obsolete, and now gun control - who says the GOP is different from the Democrats?

WINNING!


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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #37 on: February 28, 2018, 11:52:34 pm »
Quote from: kidd on February 28, 2018, 11:47:54 pm
Feeling better about my vote for Darryl Castle

Trump's conservative roots don't run very deep, as they are relatively new.

Your last sentence is why we get this type of thinking from Trump. Were else is he willing to bypass due process?

This is probably not going to happen but it is a window into his mindset
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #38 on: March 01, 2018, 12:03:20 am »
Quote from: txradioguy on February 28, 2018, 11:33:01 pm
And someone who supported Clinton's 1994 AWB.

Trump has changed his mind (flip flopped) on quite a few issues.   The AWB is just one of them.

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In a March 2016 debate, Trump was asked to speak to his published support for an assault-weapon ban. He replied: "I don’t support it anymore. I do not support the ban on assault" weapons, he said.

http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2016/apr/12/donald-trump/donald-trump-fully-flip-flops-lately-opposes-ban-a/
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #39 on: March 01, 2018, 12:15:54 am »
Quote from: XenaLee on February 28, 2018, 10:25:51 pm
Yikes.   He just keeps shooting himself in the foot... and not even realizing it.   Not very bright.  Not bright at all.... tsk tsk.
You have a mentally retarded, emotionally distressed person making vague threats (not
actionable) to shoot something up. And he has the means to shoot something up. What would
you do? Would you be opposed to taking his firearms from him? Until it can be determined if he
really is a threat to himself and others?

Not an ideal solution with plenty of room for abuse, but it does seem like a common sense thing
to do.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #40 on: March 01, 2018, 12:18:58 am »
Quote from: jpsb on March 01, 2018, 12:15:54 am
You have a mentally retarded, emotionally distressed person making vague threats (not
actionable) to shoot something up. And he has the means to shoot something up. What would
you do? Would you be opposed to taking his firearms from him? Until it can be determined if he
really is a threat to himself and others?

Not an ideal solution with plenty of room for abuse, but it does seem like a common sense thing
to do.

More thought police.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #41 on: March 01, 2018, 12:19:20 am »
Quote from: jpsb on March 01, 2018, 12:15:54 am
You have a mentally retarded, emotionally distressed person making vague threats (not
actionable) to shoot something up. And he has the means to shoot something up. What would
you do? Would you be opposed to taking his firearms from him? Until it can be determined if he
really is a threat to himself and others?

Not an ideal solution with plenty of room for abuse, but it does seem like a common sense thing
to do.

If they have probably cause they can arrest and use due process.   They can do it today
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #42 on: March 01, 2018, 12:23:17 am »
Quote from: roamer_1 on March 01, 2018, 12:18:58 am
More thought police.

Did the thought police just murder 17 8th graders in Fla while wounding 14 more?
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #43 on: March 01, 2018, 12:24:56 am »
Where's our guns=cars insurance guy?  I'm sure he could explain how this is similar to having your car towed when under suspicion of DUI.  The guns and cars guys ought to join forces and form the NR-AAA.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #44 on: March 01, 2018, 12:25:25 am »
Quote from: driftdiver on March 01, 2018, 12:19:20 am
If they have probably cause they can arrest and use due process.   They can do it today

There is no probable cause, just crazy talk from a crazy person.

Note the (not actionable) in my post.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #45 on: March 01, 2018, 12:26:48 am »
Quote from: jpsb on March 01, 2018, 12:25:25 am
There is no probable cause, just crazy talk from a crazy person.

Note the (not actionable) in my post.

Define crazy.     If they are making threats it is actionable.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #46 on: March 01, 2018, 12:27:17 am »
Quote from: jpsb on March 01, 2018, 12:23:17 am
Did the thought police just murder 17 8th graders in Fla while wounding 14 more?

Doesn't matter. Without specific actions showing specific intent, it is thought police. Be very careful how far down that slippery slope you go.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #47 on: March 01, 2018, 12:27:50 am »
Imagine the reaction we would all have if Barack Obama said the same thing?
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #48 on: March 01, 2018, 12:32:11 am »
Quote from: LMAO on March 01, 2018, 12:27:50 am
Imagine the reaction we would all have if Barak  Obama said the same thing

But instead Trump said it, and now gun confiscations first with due process later is cheered by Trump's hordes as 'common sense'.

This is how a people who were once enlightened, go down the path of following despotic imbeciles.

They are wrapped up in a cult of personality where nothing matters but the glory of their prince and his reign.
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Re: Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'
« Reply #49 on: March 01, 2018, 12:32:43 am »
Quote from: driftdiver on March 01, 2018, 12:26:48 am
Define crazy.     If they are making threats it is actionable.

I'll let you define crazy. All Trump is saying is that it might be better to take the guns away from
crazy people acting in a crazy manner until it can be determined that they are not going to harm
anyone. I don't see that as a very big deal. Back in the 50s and 60s this was a fairly common
protocol. Crazy people guns and alcohol do not mix well.
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