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John Kelly told Trump the memo is not as damning as GOP claims: Report

by Anna Giaritelli
| Feb 2, 2018, 9:27 AM

White House chief of staff John Kelly told President Trump on Wednesday that he believed a classified memo written by House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes was being overhyped and did not have the damning details Republicans claim to know about the FBI and Justice Department, according to a report published late Thursday.

Kelly hand-delivered the memo to Trump in the Oval Office Wednesday afternoon. They both talked about it then Kelly left Trump to read the full document by himself.

Hours later, Kelly returned to speak with his boss and told him he did not think releasing the redacted document would endanger national security, but said the document did not make as compelling of a case against federal investigators who allegedly used false information from the Fusion GPS dossier to obtain a search warrant, according to the Washington Post.

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Re: John Kelly told Trump the memo is not as damning as GOP claims: Report
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2018, 02:59:23 pm »
Maybe not...but the Rats seem to think so.
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Re: John Kelly told Trump the memo is not as damning as GOP claims: Report
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2018, 03:01:03 pm »
Maybe not...but the Rats seem to think so.

Maybe its their strategy but I don't think they're that smart.

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Re: John Kelly told Trump the memo is not as damning as GOP claims: Report
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2018, 03:17:55 pm »
Have you seen Adam Schiff? Does he sound like someone who thinks the memo is no big deal? Remember, he’s seen it.

Okay then, if there’s nothing to it, just release it. Big dud, right?

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Re: John Kelly told Trump the memo is not as damning as GOP claims: Report
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2018, 03:37:53 pm »
Just heard on Glenn Beck that the administration is sending it over to the house committee and released could come at any time.
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Re: John Kelly told Trump the memo is not as damning as GOP claims: Report
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2018, 03:44:29 pm »
Our local paper referred to it as "the GOP memo".
The narrative is spinning up.
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Re: John Kelly told Trump the memo is not as damning as GOP claims: Report
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2018, 03:46:10 pm »
This Washington Examiner is a real Lefty site. They once again are rereporting a story from WaPo based on unnamed WH sources telling us what happened in a private meeting between Kelly and Trump. Does Kelly look like the leaking sort? He was put in there to stop the leaks. Beyond that if you read the WaPo source piece it says Kelly didn't think the memo was damning, then goes into all the FBI/DOJ people in a panic not to release the memo. It doesn't add up.

Eff the Washington Examiner. It's more like the Washington Gossiper.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/never-any-hesitation-trump-was-quickly-convinced-to-support-memos-release/2018/02/01/b67a0246-076d-11e8-8777-2a059f168dd2_story.html?utm_term=.588f64a52707

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Re: John Kelly told Trump the memo is not as damning as GOP claims: Report
« Reply #7 on: February 02, 2018, 03:52:44 pm »
Does Kelly look like the leaking sort?


No, but he definitely seems like someone who would look at you dismissively, shrug, and walk away if you told him his ass was on fire.
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Re: John Kelly told Trump the memo is not as damning as GOP claims: Report
« Reply #8 on: February 02, 2018, 04:17:04 pm »
The damning evidence, and I think Trump could release it, is the evidence used to obtain the FISA warrant or warrants.

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Re: John Kelly told Trump the memo is not as damning as GOP claims: Report
« Reply #9 on: February 02, 2018, 04:19:27 pm »
So it's more conservative bullshit. Just like the tape that was supposed to lose Obama the 2012 election.

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Re: John Kelly told Trump the memo is not as damning as GOP claims: Report
« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2018, 04:28:57 pm »
So it's more conservative bullshit. Just like the tape that was supposed to lose Obama the 2012 election.


Ah, yes.....the days of African Press International Chief Editor Sammy Korir and Larry Johnson from No Quarter.  True pioneers in fake news.

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Re: John Kelly told Trump the memo is not as damning as GOP claims: Report
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2018, 07:30:09 pm »
So it's more conservative bullshit.
Doesn't sound like it to me. Whether or not it proves to be "damning" is another thing. In a sane world, it would damn the Democrats to the darkest reaches of Hell, never to be heard from again. But this isn't a sane world.
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Re: John Kelly told Trump the memo is not as damning as GOP claims: Report
« Reply #12 on: February 02, 2018, 08:28:45 pm »
I wouldn't say the memo itself is all that "damning," true, but it breaks the ice.  There's a lot to be said for that.  Now there will be more to come.
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Re: John Kelly told Trump the memo is not as damning as GOP claims: Report
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2018, 08:37:23 pm »
This Washington Examiner is a real Lefty site. They once again are rereporting a story from WaPo based on unnamed WH sources telling us what happened in a private meeting between Kelly and Trump. Does Kelly look like the leaking sort? He was put in there to stop the leaks. Beyond that if you read the WaPo source piece it says Kelly didn't think the memo was damning, then goes into all the FBI/DOJ people in a panic not to release the memo. It doesn't add up.

Eff the Washington Examiner. It's more like the Washington Gossiper.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/never-any-hesitation-trump-was-quickly-convinced-to-support-memos-release/2018/02/01/b67a0246-076d-11e8-8777-2a059f168dd2_story.html?utm_term=.588f64a52707

Yes it is.  Glad to see you point it out.

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Re: John Kelly told Trump the memo is not as damning as GOP claims: Report
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2018, 08:38:19 pm »
So it's more conservative bullshit. Just like the tape that was supposed to lose Obama the 2012 election.

It is not.  It’s their first brick of the foundation.

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« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2018, 08:39:03 pm »
I wouldn't say the memo itself is all that "damning," true, but it breaks the ice.  There's a lot to be said for that.  Now there will be more to come.


The more to come will be the interesting part.  Page was the target of FISA, based on interaction and intercepts from Russian agents looking for influence on sanctions.  How and why the dossier came into it will be tough to explain.  What the admin doesn’t want to end up doing is looking like they’re defending Page against investigation, because they already ran from him like he’s radioactive.  Trump specifically named him as part of his foreign policy advisory team in an interview with WaPo during the campaign.  Later, they diminished his role and Spicer even denied Trump knew him after the election.  It’s probably all nothing, but missteps like that invite scrutiny.
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Re: John Kelly told Trump the memo is not as damning as GOP claims: Report
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2018, 08:42:21 pm »
Looks like this story was bullshit. This memo is a disaster for the Deep State. Rosenstein is going to be fired and everything Mueller wants to do is now moot because the warrant he worked under is garbage.

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« Reply #17 on: February 02, 2018, 09:37:31 pm »
Looks like this story was bullshit. This memo is a disaster for the Deep State. Rosenstein is going to be fired and everything Mueller wants to do is now moot because the warrant he worked under is garbage.

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« Reply #18 on: February 02, 2018, 09:41:25 pm »
Looks like this story was bullshit. This memo is a disaster for the Deep State. Rosenstein is going to be fired and everything Mueller wants to do is now moot because the warrant he worked under is garbage.

Yep.  And lawyers are going to be lining up to get their client’s case’s dismissed if still pending or overturned if already convicted. 

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« Reply #20 on: February 02, 2018, 09:48:17 pm »
We are heading into perilous waters, as we must.  But, powerful people are desperate.

I can't imagine a more dangerous situation.
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« Reply #21 on: February 02, 2018, 10:09:05 pm »
I can't imagine a more dangerous situation.

I can....