Freedom Caucus co-founder: ‘There had better be’ a push for a stronger immigration bill

[libertybele]

???  IMHO - NO legal status and NO pathway to citizenship.  I am really hoping that the SCOTUS takes on this case and rules against DACA.

Freedom Caucus co-founder: ‘There had better be’ a push for a stronger immigration bill
“What the American people sent us there to do.”

While the White House pushes an amnesty deal unpopular with conservatives, one group of lawmakers is pushing for a harder-line measure with more support from the conservative base.

The conservative House Freedom Caucus plans to push GOP leadership for a vote on a stronger bill, according to caucus co-founder Jim Jordan, R-Ohio.

In a Friday afternoon phone interview with CRTV, Jordan said that one of the promises made to House conservatives during the last shutdown fight was that leadership would whip votes for a harder-line immigration measure in exchange for support to keep the federal government running. And he intends for them to make good on it.

“There had better be” a push for the bill in the House, Jordan said. “It was a deal.”..........

..........During the interview Jordan expressed “concerns” about President Trump’s proposal. Efforts need to be aimed at stopping immigration and enhancing border security, he said.

In contrast, the bill introduced by House Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte, R-Va., and others would provide renewal legal status for DACA beneficiaries, rather than the pathway to citizenship which has been unpopular among conservative immigration reform advocates for years.

“Our position has been clear. We’re for that bill,” Jordan told CRTV, calling it “consistent with what the American people sent us there to do.”.........

https://www.conservativereview.com/articles/freedom-caucus-co-founder-better-push-stronger-immigration-bill/

[WarmPotato]

I have got to agree but also say COME ON!!!! In my opinion it was a calculated maneuver. Trump offers them amnesty for the wall, they refuse, now he can go out and say "You see? They just want open borders, its not about amnesty" - BOOM!

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

???  IMHO - NO legal status and NO pathway to citizenship.  I am really hoping that the SCOTUS takes on this case and rules against DACA.

  and  again

[txradioguy]

What's funny about all of this is no one wants to focus on the easiest and most immediate way to tighten up the borders as well as send a lot of illegals home sooner than later.

More than half of the people illegally in this country overstayed their Visas.  And the majority of those were student Visas.  The same kind the 9/11 attackers were here on IIRC.

I want the wall built yesterday.  But while they are haggling about whether it's really gonna get built...INS/ICE should be rounding up the folks that have overstayed their Visas. 

[libertybele]

What's funny about all of this is no one wants to focus on the easiest and most immediate way to tighten up the borders as well as send a lot of illegals home sooner than later.

More than half of the people illegally in this country overstayed their Visas.  And the majority of those were student Visas.  The same kind the 9/11 attackers were here on IIRC.

I want the wall built yesterday.  But while they are haggling about whether it's really gonna get built...INS/ICE should be rounding up the folks that have overstayed their Visas.

I agree to an extent.  I also think illegals taking up space in our prison system should be deported back to the country from where they came. There are other sectors of illegals that could be deported; such as those coming in for free medical, illegals in our classroom, etc.  However I believe without a wall and stricter enforcement at the border along with enforcing existing laws, they'll be hopping right back over.

[edpc]

I agree to an extent.  I also think illegals taking up space in our prison system should be deported back to the country from where they came.

To me, it would depend greatly on the crime.  I’m not thrilled about housing and feeding them, but at least I’d know violent offenders are behind bars.  In their corrupt native systems, they may be out in no time and back here again, committing more offenses.

[truth_seeker]

I have got to agree but also say COME ON!!!! In my opinion it was a calculated maneuver. Trump offers them amnesty for the wall, they refuse, now he can go out and say "You see? They just want open borders, its not about amnesty" - BOOM!

Agreed. BTW for a young member, you sure display solid political savvy.  Are you listening to Scott Adams? This is his take on the topic, too.

BTW these people are in the country, and would be staying either way. Legal status costs nothing. A 12 year pathway to citizenship is effectively putting them at the end of the line.

[edpc]

A 12 year pathway to citizenship is effectively putting them at the end of the line.

Except legislative timelines are usually meaningless.  Ever notice how budget projections show deficit reduction over 10 years?  What budget has ever been in place that long?  Remember when the Obamacare exemptions were going to expire in 2017?  The CHIP funding bill just passed included a 2 year extension.  If you think it'll really take them a decade or more to become citizens, you're fooling yourself.

[INVAR]

What's funny about all of this is no one wants to focus on the easiest and most immediate way to tighten up the borders as well as send a lot of illegals home sooner than later.

More than half of the people illegally in this country overstayed their Visas.  And the majority of those were student Visas.  The same kind the 9/11 attackers were here on IIRC.

I want the wall built yesterday.  But while they are haggling about whether it's really gonna get built...INS/ICE should be rounding up the folks that have overstayed their Visas.

I would bet a lot more than HALF are here ILLEGALLY - as in, they had no visa or permission to be here in the first place.

But if we were serious about dealing with the problem and wanted short-term results, end all taxpayer-subsidized welfare of any kind for anyone except bona-fide American citizens and go after businesses that hire illegals - and BAM!  Problem will reduce itself in no time.

But no one has the balls in D.C. or the desire to end any of what has gone on for decades in terms of jumping our fence and breaking our laws.

In short because the Oligarchy sees the need to replace the existing citizenship in America with their newfound citizens of the world.

[txradioguy]

I would bet a lot more than HALF are here ILLEGALLY - as in, they had no visa or permission to be here in the first place.

But if we were serious about dealing with the problem and wanted short-term results, end all taxpayer-subsidized welfare of any kind for anyone except bona-fide American citizens and go after businesses that hire illegals - and BAM!  Problem will reduce itself in no time.

But no one has the balls in D.C. or the desire to end any of what has gone on for decades in terms of jumping our fence and breaking our laws.

In short because the Oligarchy sees the need to replace the existing citizenship in America with their newfound citizens of the world.

Well said!

[Bigun]

Enforce the law as it exists! Problem solved!

[Sanguine]

I have got to agree but also say COME ON!!!! In my opinion it was a calculated maneuver. Trump offers them amnesty for the wall, they refuse, now he can go out and say "You see? They just want open borders, its not about amnesty" - BOOM!

So, what would Trump have done had they agreed?  Something about motorboat mouth overloading one's rowboat a...how does that saying go?

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

I would bet a lot more than HALF are here ILLEGALLY - as in, they had no visa or permission to be here in the first place.

[snip]

In short because the Oligarchy sees the need to replace the existing citizenship in America with their newfound citizens of the world.

Yes Sir!

Pelosi's 'Make America White Again' dig at Trump Draws Rebuke from Fellow Democrat

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/28/democrats-immigration-pelosi-manchin-trump

[Sanguine]

Yes Sir!

Pelosi's 'Make America White Again' dig at Trump Draws Rebuke from Fellow Democrat

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jan/28/democrats-immigration-pelosi-manchin-trump

I wondered if any dems would condemn Pelosi for those absolutely racist and vicious comments.

[truth_seeker]

Enforce the law as it exists! Problem solved!

Plus tighten up the documents required for employers to review.

The 1986 Reagan Amnesty, and later  put in place a very weak employer verification process. IRCA and the I-9 form.  It has been abused ever since with fake, fraudulent, forged documents which the employer just looks at and notes in the files.

The employer is not able or willing, to scrutinize these forms. He doesn't want to be an immigration agent. And a system shouldn't put him in that situation.

Additionally courts need to enforce immigration related laws, measures, etc. (Enforce Prop. 187 passed in 1994 to block illegals from government benefits.)

[txradioguy]

I wondered if any dems would condemn Pelosi for those absolutely racist and vicious comments.

Manchin only did it because he's running for re-election.