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Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« on: January 26, 2018, 05:06:42 am »

Texas Senator Ted Cruz is a firm “No,” regarding the amnesty giveaway.

“I do not believe we should be granting a path to citizenship to anybody here illegally,” Cruz told reporters, according to Bloomberg. “Doing so is inconsistent with the promises we made to the men and women who elected us.”

“For some reason that to me is utterly inexplicable, we see Republicans falling all over themselves to gallop to the left of [former President] Obama in a way that is contrary to the promises made to the voters who elected us,” he added.

https://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2018/01/25/ted-cruz-trumps-amnesty-compromise-forget/
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2018, 05:07:09 am »
If Ted don't like it, I don't like it.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2018, 05:14:29 am »
Cruz is exactly correct.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2018, 05:21:18 am »
Quote from: RetBobbyMI on January 26, 2018, 05:14:29 am
Cruz is exactly correct.

Yes he is.  If Ted says no then I believe we can get what is right.  No amnesty......
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2018, 05:24:35 am »
Yeah, let's keep chain migration, that is as many as 1.3 million new potential citizens a year. That's really using one's thinking cap, way to go Cruz.  Well, if one wants to give out virtually unlimited green cards, what does one expect?

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/frequently-requested-statistics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states#CurrentHistoricalNumbers

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dick-durbin-trump-holding-dreamers-hostage-with-immigration-plan/article/2647132

And so do the Democrats reject it.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2018, 05:25:13 am »
Quote from: RetBobbyMI on January 26, 2018, 05:14:29 am
Cruz is exactly correct.

No he's not....

“Doing so is inconsistent with the promises we made to the men and women who elected us.”

Who's the "we" he speaks of or does he have a mouse in his pocket? From what I can see there are a fair number of GOP'ers under the control of Chamber Of Cheap Labor who have been promising open borders for years. What sort of magic voodoo does Ted suggest to get these dopes to go fully into his camp?
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #6 on: January 26, 2018, 05:29:14 am »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on January 26, 2018, 05:25:13 am
No he's not....

“Doing so is inconsistent with the promises we made to the men and women who elected us.”

Who's the "we" he speaks of or does he have a mouse in his pocket? From what I can see there are a fair number of GOP'ers under the control of Chamber Of Cheap Labor who have been promising open borders for years. What sort of magic voodoo does Ted suggest to get these dopes to go fully into his camp?

I don't know enough about the details of the proposal to be sure if it is a good thing or not, but Ted Cruz knows exactly.

He's stood with Trump pretty loyally until now and I don't think he would say this unless he was totally sure it was the wrong thing to do.

It may take friendly persuasion.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #7 on: January 26, 2018, 05:35:54 am »
Quote from: TomSea on January 26, 2018, 05:24:35 am
Yeah, let's keep chain migration, that is as many as 1.3 million new potential citizens a year. That's really using one's thinking cap, way to go Cruz.  Well, if one wants to give out virtually unlimited green cards, what does one expect?

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/frequently-requested-statistics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states#CurrentHistoricalNumbers

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dick-durbin-trump-holding-dreamers-hostage-with-immigration-plan/article/2647132

And so do the Democrats reject it.

I don't pay attention to you after the name Ted Cruz is mentioned.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #8 on: January 26, 2018, 05:37:00 am »
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on January 26, 2018, 05:21:18 am
Yes he is.  If Ted says no then I believe we can get what is right.  No amnesty......

I'd love to know exactly what kind of bill Ted would support.  We'll find out soon, that's for sure.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #9 on: January 26, 2018, 05:37:45 am »
Cruz is such a phony, and he plays his followers for fools. In the real world we are going to have
to make a deal with the anti-American Marxists on migration. If we can get the wall, end chain
migration and get a merit based system I will take the deal.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2018, 05:40:18 am by jpsb »
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #10 on: January 26, 2018, 05:38:05 am »
 :cheerlead: Red State, well, who is surprised, Cruz and the Democrats are rejecting it. Say hello to 1.3 million migrants to come in every year with chain migration, no wall, no voting for better security.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #11 on: January 26, 2018, 05:39:18 am »
Quote from: jpsb on January 26, 2018, 05:37:45 am
Cruz is such a phony, and he plays his followers for fools. In the real world we are going to have
to make a deal with the anti-American Marxists on migration. If we can can the wall, end chain
migration and a merit based system I will take the deal.

Ted Cruz is the one Senator I truly trust.  He's the smartest guy in the Senate and the most conservative.

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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #12 on: January 26, 2018, 05:42:06 am »
Quote from: TomSea on January 26, 2018, 05:38:05 am
:cheerlead: Red State, well, who is surprised, Cruz and the Democrats are rejecting it. Say hello to 1.3 million migrants to come in every year with chain migration, no wall, no voting for better security.

Red State is a mixed bag these days and they can infuriate me at times, but in spite of the other stuff they said in the article (which, by the way, I did not like or quote), they were directly quoting Ted Cruz.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #13 on: January 26, 2018, 05:42:28 am »
Quote from: Emjay on January 26, 2018, 05:39:18 am
Ted Cruz is the one Senator I truly trust.  He's the smartest guy in the Senate and the most conservative.

Cruz is a self serving con man.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #14 on: January 26, 2018, 05:43:07 am »
Quote from: Emjay on January 26, 2018, 05:29:14 am
I don't know enough about the details of the proposal to be sure if it is a good thing or not, but Ted Cruz knows exactly.

He's stood with Trump pretty loyally until now and I don't think he would say this unless he was totally sure it was the wrong thing to do.

It may take friendly persuasion.

Who the hell says he knows anything? Ted's a hard liner on this issue and that makes for fine Right wing porn, but he doesn't tell anyone how he is going to get his ideas passed through congress. Even if he gets a couple disaffected Rats Senators on board with this he still has at least a dozen GOP'ers that are going to fight him tooth and nail for full blown amnesty.

What we want isn't going to happen 100%. Operation Wet Back II isn't in our future. There is going to have to be something given up in this to get border security that is effective.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #16 on: January 26, 2018, 05:47:52 am »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on January 26, 2018, 05:43:07 am
Who the hell says he knows anything? Ted's a hard liner on this issue and that makes for fine Right wing porn, but he doesn't tell anyone how he is going to get his ideas passed through congress. Even if he gets a couple disaffected Rats Senators on board with this he still has at least a dozen GOP'ers that are going to fight him tooth and nail for full blown amnesty.

What we want isn't going to happen 100%. Operation Wet Back II isn't in our future. There is going to have to be something given up in this to get border security that is effective.

Hard liner? Cruz is a liar

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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2018, 05:48:41 am »
Quote from: jpsb on January 26, 2018, 05:37:45 am
Cruz is such a phony, and he plays his followers for fools. In the real world we are going to have
to make a deal with the anti-American Marxists on migration. If we can get the wall, end chain
migration and get a merit based system I will take the deal.

 goopo

This was just an opening proposal.  Maybe they will still work something out but that chain migration by itself brings a whole lot of new immigrants in.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #18 on: January 26, 2018, 12:04:54 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on January 26, 2018, 05:47:52 am
Hard liner? Cruz is a liar



B.S!  Cruz is NOT a liar. He is a man of integrity. He has always been against amnesty and he has always been for building a wall.  Much like myself he believes we need to take a stronger stance (and that's putting it very mildly) on securing our borders.

Trump PROMISED A WALL and now he's asking for $$ which will be put into a trust fund!  Trust fund??  So in essence, there won't be a wall anytime soon if at all.  Trump PROMISED NO AMNESTY and now he is backpedaling!  These are the two issues that catapulted his presidential campaign and got the masses behind him.  On these two key issues he is breaking his promise.  He is going back on his word  He has no integrity!

Go Cruz!!!  Ted is absolutely 100% correct on this.  Trump should NOT compromise on this 2 issues, nor should the American people.  Why oh why do people keep wanting to give away the sovereignty of our country?
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #19 on: January 26, 2018, 03:39:53 pm »
Quote from: RetBobbyMI on January 26, 2018, 05:14:29 am
Cruz is exactly correct.

He most certainly is!  As usual!
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #20 on: January 26, 2018, 03:42:11 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on January 26, 2018, 05:37:45 am
Cruz is such a phony, and he plays his followers for fools. In the real world we are going to have
to make a deal with the anti-American Marxists on migration. If we can get the wall, end chain
migration and get a merit based system I will take the deal.

Why should we "have to make a deal with the anti-American Marxists"?

Seems to me that doing that is EXACTLY why we find ourselves where we do!
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #21 on: January 26, 2018, 03:51:48 pm »
Quote from: jpsb on January 26, 2018, 05:37:45 am
Cruz is such a phony, and he plays his followers for fools. In the real world we are going to have
to make a deal with the anti-American Marxists on migration. If we can get the wall, end chain
migration and get a merit based system I will take the deal.

Careful you call a phony. Cruz is saying exactly what Trump was saying 16 months ago.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #22 on: January 26, 2018, 04:03:18 pm »
Quote from: TomSea on January 26, 2018, 05:24:35 am
Yeah, let's keep chain migration, that is as many as 1.3 million new potential citizens a year. That's really using one's thinking cap, way to go Cruz.  Well, if one wants to give out virtually unlimited green cards, what does one expect?

https://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/frequently-requested-statistics-immigrants-and-immigration-united-states#CurrentHistoricalNumbers

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/dick-durbin-trump-holding-dreamers-hostage-with-immigration-plan/article/2647132

And so do the Democrats reject it.


Let’s cut the bullshit on chain migration and the amnesty lottery.  Just because people apply and meet requirements, it doesn’t mean they’re automatically in.  Nobody is guaranteed entry or citizenship through those programs.  Instead of issuing directives and actually managing the system, they just want to moan and whine it’s the bane of our existence so they can have a campaign issue.
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Re: Ted Cruz On Trump’s Amnesty Compromise: FORGET IT!
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2018, 04:06:48 pm »
Quote from: skeeter on January 26, 2018, 03:51:48 pm
Careful you call a phony. Cruz is saying exactly what Trump was saying 16 months ago.

16 months ago Cruz was saying what Donny is saying today. Maybe it's Freaky Friday!
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« Reply #24 on: January 26, 2018, 04:09:03 pm »
Quote from: edpc on January 26, 2018, 04:03:18 pm

Let’s cut the bullshit on chain migration and the amnesty lottery.  Just because people apply and meet requirements, it doesn’t mean they’re automatically in.  Nobody is guaranteed entry or citizenship through those programs.  Instead of issuing directives and actually managing the system, they just want to moan and whine it’s the bane of our existence so they can have a campaign issue.

Bottom line is 70% of those immigrants here today legally come from chain migration. Given the high ratio of immigrants below the poverty line and on public assistance obviously the nation would benefit greatly by chucking chain migration altogether & going to a merit based system.
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