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[Hoodat]

Read my post again.

It says nothing about Regime Change or Toppling Despots.

Then get back to me after we've Won Iraq or the War on Drugs from SA.

We did win the Iraq war.  It was only after it was won that the victory was given away.

In 2008, the entire Middle East, North Africa, and Persia were brimming for democratic revolutionary change because of the victory won in Iraq.  And in 2009, the US response was to tie the hands of those representing that victory.

Iraq had been won.  The surge succeeded.  Our enemies in Iraq had been won over.  The Sunnis and Shiites were working together.  But then Obama happened.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

Does this look like a war we've Won, in Iraq?

Thousands more US military service members in Iraq and Syria than believed.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/thousands-us-military-service-members-iraq-syria-believed/story?id=51411555

How many of our Military Occupation forces were killed in Germany after the fall of Berlin in 1945 or the Official Surrender aboard a Battleship of Imperial Japan?

[Hoodat]

Does this look like a war we've Won, in Iraq?

Thousands more US military service members in Iraq and Syria than believed.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/thousands-us-military-service-members-iraq-syria-believed/story?id=51411555

Your article comes 8 years after that victory was surrendered.  Just as the 1991 Desert War victory was given away over the next 8 years.

How many of our Military Occupation forces were killed in Germany after the fall of Berlin in 1945 or the Official Surrender aboard a Battleship of Imperial Japan?

By that same token, how many military members were killed by Germany after their surrender in 1918?  (See:  WWII)

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

Your article comes 8 years after that victory was surrendered.  Just as the 1991 Desert War victory was given away over the next 8 years.


By that same token, how many military members were killed by Germany after their surrender in 1918?  (See:  WWII)

How do you surrender a Victory which was not a Victory because it obviously wasn't complete and total?

Issue 2?

1918 was WWI, and you're conflating it with WWII in 1945? Date check, please.

Thank You for making my point for me.

[txradioguy]

Does this look like a war we've Won, in Iraq?

Thousands more US military service members in Iraq and Syria than believed.

What does Syria have to do with Iraq?

Oh yeah that's right...nothing.

I was in Iraq for a year...we DID win.  If you want to be pissed and rant and rave about i's current condition...direct your ire towards Obama who turned a success story into a cluster fu*k.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/thousands-us-military-service-members-iraq-syria-believed/story?id=51411555

How many of our Military Occupation forces were killed in Germany after the fall of Berlin in 1945 or the Official Surrender aboard a Battleship of Imperial Japan?

Strawman.

[To-Whose-Benefit?]

What does Syria have to do with Iraq?

Oh yeah that's right...nothing.

I was in Iraq for a year...we DID win.  If you want to be pissed and rant and rave about i's current condition...direct your ire towards Obama who turned a success story into a cluster fu*k.

http://abcnews.go.com/International/thousands-us-military-service-members-iraq-syria-believed/story?id=51411555

Strawman.

Syria is not the issue. It's a coincidental part of the news report.

Neither is the Performance and Heroism of our Troops in Desert Storm, to Whom I say, 'Well Done and Thank You' including You @txradioguy.

But Victory was Declared without destroying the enemies' will to resist us. Into that void grew ISIS.

They wouldn't have if our Politicians had had the stones to finish the job. Scum like ISIS don't operate in a vacuum. They need support from friends and families.

When we and England bombed Hamburg to cripple Nazi War Production, almost all pretense of precision bombing was scrapped. The English bombed by night. The firestorm killed 42,000 Germans.

http://totallyhistory.com/bombing-of-hamburg/

"So severe was the bombing that Nazi official Joseph Goebbels believed that after the events in Hamburg, seeking peace with the Allies should have been the next course of action for Germany to take."

Dresden was punitive, as in This is what you get for Eff-ing with us.

http://www.history.com/topics/world-war-ii/battle-of-dresden

"Allied forces bombed the historic city of Dresden, located in eastern Germany. The bombing was controversial because Dresden was neither important to German wartime production nor a major industrial center, and before the massive air raid of February 1945 it had not suffered a major Allied attack. By February 15, the city was a smoldering ruin and an unknown number of civilians—estimated at somewhere between 35,000 and 135,000–were dead."

Real Victory, regardless of what the treaties, negotiated coalitions paperwork, newspapers etc say only happens After the Victor has utterly crushed and extinguished the Vanquisheds' Will To Resist.

That has not yet happened in Iraq.

[txradioguy]

Syria is not the issue. It's a coincidental part of the news report.

Neither is the Performance and Heroism of our Troops in Desert Storm, to Whom I say, 'Well Done and Thank You' including You @txradioguy.

Actually if Bush 41 had driven on to Baghdad we wouldn't have had to go back in 12 years later to finish off Saddam.

But that's not all of it...again after we beat Saddam the first time...we had a Liberal anti-war anti-military President occupy the Oval Office. 

He did little if anything to enforce the conditions of the Iraqi surrender and subsequent cease fire.  So Saddam was able to rebuild...wage a proxy war with the Kurds...circumvent U.N. sanctions to sell oil and harbor terrorists.  If Billy Jeff had been more interested in doing his job instead of doing Monica we night not have had to clean up his mess in Iraq nor would we have ever spent 12 years hunting for Osama bin Laden.

But Victory was Declared without destroying the enemies' will to resist us. Into that void grew ISIS.

Again not true.

Actually the 2007 surge broke the back of al Qaeda in Iraq and sent them scurrying.  Obama came in and screwed up what he deemed as a "stupid war" started pulling out troops equipment and support sets the Iraqi's needed to continue stability operations...and on top of it left the U.S. and Iraq without a SOFA agreement.

We didn't cause the rise of Daesh.  They were formed as a splinter group of al Qaeda...radicals who were kicked out of AQ because they were deemed too radical for even al Qaeda.  They were more radical than the radicals.

They wouldn't have if our Politicians had had the stones to finish the job. Scum like ISIS don't operate in a vacuum. They need support from friends and families.

As long as we have anti-war anti-military types and their offspring infesting the halls of congress we will fight a war on two fronts.  Our military leadership is so scared of it's own shadow right now the Commandant of West Point doesn't even have the spine to control the rising tide of leftist radicalism within his own institution. 

We're sacking commanders for allegedly calling someone "darling".

Patton is rolling over in his grave right now.

[Hoodat]

Actually if Bush 41 had driven on to Baghdad we wouldn't have had to go back in 12 years later to finish off Saddam.

But that's not all of it...again after we beat Saddam the first time...we had a Liberal anti-war anti-military President occupy the Oval Office. 

He did little if anything to enforce the conditions of the Iraqi surrender and subsequent cease fire.  So Saddam was able to rebuild...wage a proxy war with the Kurds...circumvent U.N. sanctions to sell oil and harbor terrorists.  If Billy Jeff had been more interested in doing his job instead of doing Monica we night not have had to clean up his mess in Iraq nor would we have ever spent 12 years hunting for Osama bin Laden.

Ditto.  People tend to ignore the FACT that the 2003 invasion was a continuation of the 1991 Gulf War.  We were at a state of cease fire.  Iraq violated the terms of that cease fire, which the Authorization for Use of Force in Iraq passed by the Senate clearly points out.

Again not true.

Actually the 2007 surge broke the back of al Qaeda in Iraq and sent them scurrying.  Obama came in and screwed up what he deemed as a "stupid war" started pulling out troops equipment and support sets the Iraqi's needed to continue stability operations...and on top of it left the U.S. and Iraq without a SOFA agreement.

We didn't cause the rise of Daesh.  They were formed as a splinter group of al Qaeda...radicals who were kicked out of AQ because they were deemed too radical for even al Qaeda.  They were more radical than the radicals.

As long as we have anti-war anti-military types and their offspring infesting the halls of congress we will fight a war on two fronts.  Our military leadership is so scared of it's own shadow right now the Commandant of West Point doesn't even have the spine to control the rising tide of leftist radicalism within his own institution. 

We're sacking commanders for allegedly calling someone "darling".

Patton is rolling over in his grave right now.

Ditto, again.  In 2008, we were already reducing our forces there while maintaining a massive military base in one of the most strategic places on the planet - a location that we would have done anything to get during the Cold War, and one that guards the largest group of petroleum reserves on the planet.  Within just a scant few years of Obama, the US would lose that strategic base, and foreign jihad fighters would flock to Iraq once more and use it as a base against US interests.

Victory in 2008?  Hell yes!  Even Iran was facing calls for revolution against its current theocracy.  But then Obama came, and did his utmost to destroy it all.