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« Reply #750 on: June 21, 2018, 07:11:57 pm »
It happened faster than I thought it would when I read his farewell column.

RIP to a man who invariably civilised the day's or the week's events with his writings.

He may well be the last of the civilized political commentators.
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« Reply #751 on: June 21, 2018, 07:27:33 pm »
He may well be the last of the civilized political commentators.
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Well, we still have George F. Will. Even if he is now 77.

But think of the ones gone and too much missed, on all sides of the ideological divide . . . James Burnham, Eric Sevareid, Murray Kempton, William Safire, William F. Buckley, Jr. Not to mention the retired Russell Baker. (Not to mention the departed who enhanced baseball with their civility and wit: Jim Murray, Red Smith, Shirley Povich, Bill Heinz, Alison Gordon . . . though we do still have Thomas Boswell and Roger Angell . . .) Their genuine wit and civility has been supplanted for the most part by the kind of creatures to whom civility is weakness, real wit is an illegal alien, and whose bugle call is the Bronx razz.


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« Reply #752 on: June 21, 2018, 07:30:34 pm »
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Well, we still have George F. Will. Even if he is now 77.

But think of the ones gone and too much missed, on all sides of the ideological divide . . . James Burnham, Eric Sevareid, Murray Kempton, William Safire, William F. Buckley, Jr. Not to mention the retired Russell Baker. (Not to mention the departed who enhanced baseball with their civility and wit: Jim Murray, Red Smith, Shirley Povich, Bill Heinz, Alison Gordon . . . though we do still have Thomas Boswell and Roger Angell . . .) Their genuine wit and civility has been supplanted for the most part by the kind of creatures to whom civility is weakness, real wit is an illegal alien, and whose bugle call is the Bronx razz.

Quotable quote there, Easy!   Spot on.
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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #753 on: June 21, 2018, 07:47:21 pm »
"I hope that when it comes my time to die, that I have lived a life of honor to receive the respect that Charles Krauthammer has, that those who disagree do so with dignity, and that only a total jackass speaks ill of me. (There'll always be jackasses.)" (my Twitter remarks on the subject of Krauthammer's passing)
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« Reply #754 on: June 21, 2018, 09:23:48 pm »
Quotable quote there, Easy!   Spot on.

You can say that again, @musiclady
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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #755 on: June 21, 2018, 09:27:14 pm »
You can say that again, @musiclady
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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #756 on: June 21, 2018, 10:22:09 pm »
I didn't agree with everything Krauthammer said, but I respected the heck out of him as a man.  What courage.

I knew he was near the end, but this is still hard.

Neither did I, but he was a giant in the field of roundtable punditry: calm, classy and articulate. He right up there with Buckley in terms of influence, IMO.
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« Reply #757 on: June 23, 2018, 10:25:17 am »
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« Reply #758 on: June 23, 2018, 10:36:07 am »
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As the R & R' ers approach old age, I think studies will it is show that that lifestyle takes a good 10-15 years off life expectancy.
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« Reply #759 on: June 23, 2018, 10:57:18 am »
As the R & R' ers approach old age, I think studies will it is show that that lifestyle takes a good 10-15 years off life expectancy.

Yes, but the Rolling Stones skew the averages. 

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« Reply #760 on: June 23, 2018, 10:58:42 am »
Yes, but the Rolling Stones skew the averages.

And Aerosmith...can’t forget the Toxic Twins
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« Reply #761 on: June 23, 2018, 11:04:38 am »
And Aerosmith...can’t forget the Toxic Twins

In spite of Steve Tyler's best efforts.


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« Reply #762 on: June 23, 2018, 11:10:42 am »
As the R & R' ers approach old age, I think studies will it is show that that lifestyle takes a good 10-15 years off life expectancy.

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Ever heard of a little band called "The Rolling Stones"?
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« Reply #763 on: June 23, 2018, 11:11:56 am »
Yes, but the Rolling Stones skew the averages.

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Keef will never die unless he starts eating health food,stops smoking and doing drugs,and starts exercising.
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« Reply #764 on: June 23, 2018, 11:14:57 am »
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Keef will never die unless he starts eating health food,stops smoking and doing drugs,and starts exercising.

And, we know that ain't gonna happen.

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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #765 on: June 23, 2018, 11:19:53 am »
Willie Nelson, Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Streisand, Bill Medley, Dick Dale, Tony Bennett still kicking.

BB King, Chuck Berry into their 80s.
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« Reply #766 on: June 23, 2018, 11:35:05 am »
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Keef will never die unless he starts eating health food,stops smoking and doing drugs,and starts exercising.

There's a lame joke that says Keith Richard died three years ago, but no one has told him yet.

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« Reply #767 on: June 23, 2018, 11:42:48 am »
Willie Nelson, Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Streisand, Bill Medley, Dick Dale, Tony Bennett still kicking.

BB King, Chuck Berry into their 80s.

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Tony Bennett is operating on a MUCH higher level than that. His voice seems to be as strong and smooth as even,which should be impossible for a man his age who spent most of his life singing in smoky nightclubs.
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« Reply #768 on: June 23, 2018, 11:45:13 am »
There's a lame joke that says Keith Richard died three years ago, but no one has told him yet.

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Remember a few years ago when the Stones were preparing for a world tour in "de islands,man",and Keef tried to climb a coconut tree while drunk to get a coconut,and fell out of the tree?

BTW,I think I read something a few weeks ago about them planning another world tour.
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« Reply #769 on: June 23, 2018, 11:53:55 am »
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Remember a few years ago when the Stones were preparing for a world tour in "de islands,man",and Keef tried to climb a coconut tree while drunk to get a coconut,and fell out of the tree?

BTW,I think I read something a few weeks ago about them planning another world tour.

I remember that coconut story.  And I won't be surprised if the band tours again.  I saw them a few years ago in Pittsburgh.  I don't know if there was some trickery involved, but the Stones looked and sounded really good.

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« Reply #770 on: June 23, 2018, 12:57:12 pm »
Willie Nelson, Paul McCartney, Ringo Starr, Streisand, Bill Medley, Dick Dale, Tony Bennett still kicking.

BB King, Chuck Berry into their 80s.
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I saw what may have been B.B. King's last performance, right here in Las Vegas. God bless him but he should have retired well before he did. I talked about it when writing a tribute to him for a local weekly magazine's year-end special section honouring prominent Las Vegas people who passed in 2015:
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More than One Kind Favor

B.B. King gave me a surprise in the summer of 1969 that I still can’t forget. My only regret is that I never got to thank him directly.

I was at summer camp, when the camp announced a trip to Tanglewood, Massachussetts, for a concert at which The Who and Jefferson Airplane would co-headline (it was a kind of Woodstock warmup for those two bands), and B.B. King would open. I’d never heard of him until then; I was fourteen years old, muddled up as a kid could be. We spread blankets and the concert began. At the time, King opened with “Don’t Answer the Door,” a key track on His Best—The Electric B.B. King, as I discovered in due course. I still have few words to describe the way it hit me. Five notes from him and I didn’t want to know anything from either The Who or the Airplane.

I couldn’t wait to get home to the cheap electric guitar my maternal grandmother bought me for my twelfth birthday and start trying to play seriously. Not to mention taking the allowance my mother was kind enough to save for me all summer and buy as many blues records as I could. The haul included three King albums: the aforesaid His Best … , plus Completely Well (at the time his newest release) and Singin’ the Blues (his very early album release). I also bought choice releases by Muddy Waters, Albert King, Robert Johnson, Howlin’ Wolf, the Butterfield Blues Band, Sonny Boy Williamson II* and others. Each told stories I was unaware could be told in music until then. Each said things nobody else had said to this damaged teenage boy. Above them all was B.B. King. His Lucille really was a second human voice. Singing, crying, laughing, whispering, shouting. Saying in a few notes what guitarists since have tried and failed to say with thrice the notes in half the space. Whenever I pick up my guitar, I like to think that I’m thanking King for the gift he gave me all those summers ago.

The musical diversions I made in the years to follow were enough. Invariably, the blues called me back, in due course to stay. King had most to do with that. I rarely lost track of any of King’s coming releases. They bore otherworldly brilliance and human ordinariness alike. None of the ordinariness dimmed the depth of the man at his best, which was more than we had the right to expect.

Not even the final time I saw him live, at the 2014 Big Blues Bender in Las Vegas. I had to fight tears watching my blues father in what seemed like his final days. He could barely get through one verse of a song. His beloved Lucille fell out of tune, her man seemed barely aware of it. He rambled rather than told stories; and I could bear only an hour of it, if that long. Only later was it confirmed what I suspected quietly enough, that Alzheimer’s disease had compounded the diabetes which had long afflicted him. He was human and not without his human frailties, but inflicting that upon B.B. King was an Eighth Amendment violation.

Then I harked to his final studio recording, One Kind Favour. Facing his mortality at last, he opened with “See That My Grave Is Kept Clean,” but he refused to brood and chose to celebrate his life—and life itself. No bluesman of my experience ever allowed less self-pity for his hardships or less self- congratulation for his triumphs and happinesses. I suspect that his attitude, in hand with his outsize talent, is why he became the King of the Blues. (Justice demands the title be retired in his honor.) He may not have intended One Kind Favor as his coda. But to play that and all his recordings, is to say how fortunate we were, to have had him as long as we had him.

So thank you again, Daddy B. For more than one kind favor.
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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #771 on: June 23, 2018, 01:18:06 pm »
I saw what may have been B.B. King's last performance, right here in Las Vegas. God bless him but he should have retired well before he did. I talked about it when writing a tribute to him for a local
We went to see BB King in the early 90s, during his last tour before retirement (he was about 65 then)

Glad we did. Leon Russell opened for him (he was past his prime, that night).

Anyway, glad to have seen them both. Yes, many people continue for too long.
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« Reply #772 on: June 23, 2018, 02:30:55 pm »
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You are a fortunate man. B.B. King was and remains something special.

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Not even the final time I saw him live, at the 2014 Big Blues Bender in Las Vegas. I had to fight tears watching my blues father in what seemed like his final days. He could barely get through one verse of a song. His beloved Lucille fell out of tune, her man seemed barely aware of it. He rambled rather than told stories; and I could bear only an hour of it, if that long. Only later was it confirmed what I suspected quietly enough, that Alzheimer’s disease had compounded the diabetes which had long afflicted him. He was human and not without his human frailties, but inflicting that upon B.B. King was an Eighth Amendment violation.

The way *I* see it,the man was a worker,not a prima donna,and he was going to get up there and work for as long as he was able to get up there. Celebrate it because it is somthing that gets rarer with every day that passes.

I am just glad that Robert Cray is out there,even though for some reason I will never understand he never seems to get the credit he deserves.

As for da blues deysefs,it's amazing how such simple music can be so damn hard to play right,ain't it?

There is the blues,and then there is everything else.
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« Reply #773 on: June 23, 2018, 02:36:20 pm »


Glad we did. Leon Russell opened for him (he was past his prime, that night).



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I've seen Leon Russel a couple of times,and anytime you get a chance to see  him it's time well spent.

The thing that seriously pisses me off about Leon Russell is somebody named Donny Hathaway seems to be getting the credit for writing and recording Leon Russell's songs the last few years,and nobody is correcting the people repeating that garbage.
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« Reply #774 on: June 23, 2018, 02:45:38 pm »
@truth_seeker

I've seen Leon Russel a couple of times,and anytime you get a chance to see  him it's time well spent.

The thing that seriously pisses me off about Leon Russell is somebody named Donny Hathaway seems to be getting the credit for writing and recording Leon Russell's songs the last few years,and nobody is correcting the people repeating that garbage.

We saw Leon as "The Leon and Mary Russell Showing the mid-late 70s at Universal Amphitheater.

What a show. They both played pianos,  dressed all in white, and it rocked !!

Leon was part of the "Wrecking Crew" with Glenn Campbell, etc.

Leon Russell and JJ Cale, both Tulsa and had their own recording studios for a time.  @sneakypete @EasyAce
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The thing that seriously pisses me off about Leon Russell is somebody named Donny Hathaway seems to be getting the credit for writing and recording Leon Russell's songs the last few years,and nobody is correcting the people repeating that garbage.
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The only connection between Leon Russell and Donny Hathaway that I know of is that Hathaway did a version of Russell's "A Song for You" on his second album, a set of mostly covers called simply Donny Hathaway. (Some time ago I found that and Hathaway's other albums in a small box issues by Rhino; he was easily one of the best soul performers of the 1970s with marked jazz influences---indeed, he once arranged for Woody Herman as well as for the Impressions, for whose leader Curtis Mayfield he also once served as house keyboardman at Mayfield's label, Curtom.) Hathaway was a potent songwriter in his own right; he hardly needed to seek credit elsewhere---"The Ghetto," from his first album and from a rousing version on his live album, Donny Hathaway Live, was probably his best composition. You wonder if Hathaway covering "A Song for You" on his second album caused some people to believe he'd written the song, since his version is quite different than Russell's original. After recording what proved his last studio album on his own, Extensions of a Man, the depression that plagues Hathaway much of his life came full blown; he was rarely able to work again other than playing small clubs and, after one of several hospital stays fighting the condition, recording one more duet with Roberta Flack ("The Closer I Get to You") and tentatively starting a new album with her, when he was found dead on the sidewalk outside his hotel in 1979. (Police and forensics investigators found a) no sign of any struggle on his body; and, b) the window to his room in the hotel was removed almost professionally, leading to the disclosure that Hathaway was a suicide, which puzzled those who knew him and devastated Flack, since Hathaway's career looked like it might begin reviving in earnest.)

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« Reply #776 on: June 23, 2018, 05:53:47 pm »
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The only connection between Leon Russell and Donny Hathaway that I know of is that Hathaway did a version of Russell's "A Song for You" on his second album, a set of mostly covers called simply Donny Hathaway
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Yeah,I read all of that on the web too,and it doesn't change the fact that I have heard contestants on teebee singing/talent shows say "I am going to do "A song for you" by Donnie Hathaway",and nobody on the panel or anywhere else correcting them. There is one other Leon Russel song I have heard contestants identify as being written by Hathaway too,but I forget which one right now.

AND....,the version they all do  is virtually identical to Leon Russell.
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« Reply #778 on: June 23, 2018, 07:19:03 pm »
@EasyAce

Yeah,I read all of that on the web too,and it doesn't change the fact that I have heard contestants on teebee singing/talent shows say "I am going to do "A song for you" by Donnie Hathaway",and nobody on the panel or anywhere else correcting them. There is one other Leon Russel song I have heard contestants identify as being written by Hathaway too,but I forget which one right now.

AND....,the version they all do  is virtually identical to Leon Russell.
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If you think television talent contestants have made a job of confusing the issue (they could have heard "A Song for You" first in a Donny Hathaway version without bothering to check the actual songwriting credit), think of how many bar blues bands do "Stormy Monday" and announce it as by the Allman Brothers Band instead of by its author, T-Bone Walker. Or, who do "Crossroads" and announce it as by Eric Clapton or Cream and not its actual author, Robert Johnson. (Of course, the Allman Brothers Band never recorded a version of "Stormy Monday" in the studio, just for the live Fillmore East set---and they only recorded a live version once during the 1971 shows that went into making the album, as I discovered when I bought the box set of all those shows. But when they did play it at one of the shows, they first said it was a Bobby Bland number---Bland having had a big R&B chart hit with his version--before Duane Allman said, "Actually, it's an old T-Bone Walker tune.") And don't get me started on how many bar bands introduce "Soul Man" as "something by the Blues Brothers" and not by Sam & Dave, who had the original hit written for them by Isaac Hayes and David Porter. Or, who introduce "Dreams" as a Molly (Nurse) Hatchet (perfect name for that band, too, considering what noisy butchers they were in live performances) number, and not the Allman Brothers Band who came up with it in the first place.

Though one such band I saw actually had the class to announce their version of "Crossroads" this way: "Eric Clapton made it famous with Cream. Robert Johnson wrote it."


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« Reply #779 on: June 23, 2018, 07:25:09 pm »
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If you think television talent contestants have made a job of confusing the issue (they could have heard "A Song for You" first in a Donny Hathaway version without bothering to check the actual songwriting credit), think of how many bar blues bands do "Stormy Monday" and announce it as by the Allman Brothers Band instead of by its author, T-Bone Walker. Or, who do "Crossroads" and announce it as by Eric Clapton or Cream and not its actual author, Robert Johnson. (Of course, the Allman Brothers Band never recorded a version of "Stormy Monday" in the studio, just for the live Fillmore East set---and they only recorded a live version once during the 1971 shows that went into making the album, as I discovered when I bought the box set of all those shows. But when they did play it at one of the shows, they first said it was a Bobby Bland number---Bland having had a big R&B chart hit with his version--before Duane Allman said, "Actually, it's an old T-Bone Walker tune.") And don't get me started on how many bar bands introduce "Soul Man" as "something by the Blues Brothers" and not by Sam & Dave, who had the original hit written for them by Isaac Hayes and David Porter. Or, who introduce "Dreams" as a Molly (Nurse) Hatchet (perfect name for that band, too, considering what noisy butchers they were in live performances) number, and not the Allman Brothers Band who came up with it in the first place.

Though one such band I saw actually had the class to announce their version of "Crossroads" this way: "Eric Clapton made it famous with Cream. Robert Johnson wrote it."

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I remember hearing the Robert Johnson version of it decades ago,but no details. I seriously doubt Johnson had the same arrangement.

And The Allman Brothers Band with both Greg and Duane didn't take a back seat to anybody,and had nothing to apologize for. Other than a few times when Duane tried to sing,that is.
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Re: Obituaries for 2018
« Reply #780 on: June 23, 2018, 07:31:09 pm »
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I remember hearing the Robert Johnson version of it decades ago,but no details. I seriously doubt Johnson had the same arrangement.
Of course, he didn't, but they still should credit the man. (They could take the example from Clapton himself, who made sure Robert Johnson got the songwriting credits when Cream did versions of "From Four Until Late" and "Crossroads," and who made sure Skip James got a fat royalty check for "I'm So Glad" when Cream first visited the U.S.) Sometimes I like to play Johnson's "When You've Got a Good Friend" with my blues group, and we damn well don't give the credit to Johnny Winter.

And The Allman Brothers Band with both Greg and Duane didn't take a back seat to anybody,and had nothing to apologize for. Other than a few times when Duane tried to sing,that is.
Nobody---certainly not me---said they had anything to apologise for except Duane trying to sing. He had something in common with Mike Bloomfield there: as singers, they were great guitarists.

I have the same problem---I can't sing worth a damn, but my band wrestles with me over it because I think our bassist and our keyboard player are excellent singers and I want them to divide the singing between them, even (especially) on the songs I write for the band, but they don't like to sing other than one or two songs. I can carry a tune for a guide vocal on demos I make of my songs but that's about it, folks. And I know it. I'd rather just be the guitar player and songwriter, but for some perverse reason they think that because I play a guitar it's my duty to sing even if I can't sing worth a damn. I even tried subversively to force the issue by writing a lot of instrumental music for us (we do blues on the jazzier side with a lot of freewheeling jamming), but they loved the instrumentals without taking the hint. ;)
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« Reply #781 on: June 25, 2018, 03:51:27 pm »
Richard Harrison, 'The Old Man' on 'Pawn Stars,' has died



LAS VEGAS (KSNV) — LAS VEGAS (KSNV) - Richard Benjamin Harrison, known affectionately as "The Old Man" on long-running reality series "Pawn Stars," has died.

The Gold & Silver Pawn Shop announced Harrison's passing Monday morning, with a Facebook post saying he was surrounded by his family over the weekend.

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« Reply #782 on: June 27, 2018, 12:32:20 pm »
http://www.tmz.com/2018/06/27/joe-jackson-dead-dies/

Joe Jackson -- the patriarch of the Jackson family -- has died ... TMZ has learned.

Family sources tell TMZ, Joe passed away at 3:30 AM Wednesday in L.A.

We broke the story ... Joe was hospitalized in June with terminal cancer. His family had been flocking to his bedside since. His wife, Katherine, had been at his bedside as were some of Joe's children and grandchildren.

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« Reply #783 on: June 27, 2018, 01:17:20 pm »
Thanks @Millee .  I had read a day or 2 ago that Jackson was in the hospital.  The story about him is that he was a mean, abusive, chiseling SOB.  But now he's in God's hands and it will be up to Him to judge, not me or anyone else.  May he rest in peace and may his wife and family have peace, too.

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« Reply #784 on: June 27, 2018, 01:21:24 pm »
http://www.tmz.com/2018/06/27/joe-jackson-dead-dies/

Joe Jackson -- the patriarch of the Jackson family -- has died ... TMZ has learned.
 

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« Reply #785 on: June 27, 2018, 02:33:58 pm »
Thanks @Millee .  I had read a day or 2 ago that Jackson was in the hospital.  The story about him is that he was a mean, abusive, chiseling SOB.
The story is that he was the kind of disciplinarian father who crossed the line into child abuse (it's one thing not to take any crap from your children, but it's something else again to deploy excessive physical abuse), though it wasn't put in those terms in the years when he began raising a family. He also went several bridges too far with his children when he discovered they had musical talent and imposed (often brutally) a strict and continuous practise and rehearsal routine upon them, essentially stealing their youth. His children might have become superstars, but the price may have been beyond exorbitant, particularly when it came to Michael Jackson, who spent so much time once he became a powerhouse on his own seeking and trying to live the childhood stolen from him, and running into so many issues on his own when he did so.

But now he's in God's hands and it will be up to Him to judge, not me or anyone else.  May he rest in peace and may his wife and family have peace, too.
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« Reply #786 on: June 27, 2018, 03:29:01 pm »
Thanks @EasyAce That just about sums up the things I read and heard about Jackson.  I also understand that he was abusive to Kathleen, fooled around with other women, fathered at least one illegitimate child, and one story said he acquired a venereal disease which of course, he gave to his wife.  Kathleen technically stayed married to him, but I'm not sure if they were still living together. 

Personally, if he were my husband, he would have been dead long ago and not from natural causes.

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« Reply #787 on: June 28, 2018, 04:17:28 pm »
Harlan Ellison, Sci-Fi Writer Who Contributed to ‘Star Trek,’ ‘Babylon 5,’ Dies at 84

Speculative-fiction writer Harlan Ellison, who penned short stories, novellas and criticism, contributed to TV series including “The Outer Limits,” “Star Trek” and “Babylon 5” and won a notable copyright infringement suit against ABC and Paramount and a settlement in a similar suit over “The Terminator,” has died. He was 84.

More here:  https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/harlan-ellison-dead-dies-star-trek-1202861048/
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« Reply #788 on: June 29, 2018, 12:46:03 am »
Harlan Ellison, Sci-Fi Writer Who Contributed to ‘Star Trek,’ ‘Babylon 5,’ Dies at 84

Speculative-fiction writer Harlan Ellison, who penned short stories, novellas and criticism, contributed to TV series including “The Outer Limits,” “Star Trek” and “Babylon 5” and won a notable copyright infringement suit against ABC and Paramount and a settlement in a similar suit over “The Terminator,” has died. He was 84.

More here:  https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/harlan-ellison-dead-dies-star-trek-1202861048/

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« Reply #789 on: June 29, 2018, 09:44:51 am »
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Of course it was coming, but . . .

Yeah... the big names are getting fewer and fewer, and what we're left with seems so pale in comparison.   **nononono*
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« Reply #790 on: June 29, 2018, 04:37:37 pm »
Gudrun Burwitz Himmler, daughter of Heinrich, worked for German intelligence during cold war, Holocaust denier, helped some Nazis escape justice at the least, after the war has died at 88 years old. She died in May but we may be just getting the news now:
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    The German spy agency BND confirmed that it had employed Gudrun Burwitz
    She died last month at the age of 88 having never renounced her evil father
    Heinrich Himmler was commander of the SS and a key architect of the Holocaust


By Tim Stickings For Mailonline and Reuters

Published: 06:31 EDT, 29 June 2018 | Updated: 14:18 EDT, 29 June 2018

Heinrich Himmler's daughter has died at the age of 88, as Germany's top intelligence service admitted it had employed the Nazi sympathiser during the Cold War. 

The BND confirmed today that Gudrun Burwitz had worked for the then-West German spy agency in the 1960s, although she never renounced her father or the Nazi regime.

She remained active in far-right extremism in later life, helping war criminals who worked for her evil father escape justice, and speaking at neo-Nazi rallies, before she died last month in Munich.

Read more at: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5900491/German-spy-agency-acknowledges-employing-Himmlers-daughter.html

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« Reply #791 on: June 29, 2018, 04:51:12 pm »
Gudrun Burwitz Himmler, daughter of Heinrich, worked for German intelligence during cold war, Holocaust denier, helped some Nazis escape justice at the least, after the war has died at 88 years old. She died in May but we may be just getting the news now:

She certainly lived longer than the Goebbels' children.

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« Reply #792 on: June 29, 2018, 05:58:25 pm »
She certainly lived longer than the Goebbels' children.

She probably had an allergy to chocolate.
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Gudrun Burwitz Himmler, daughter of Heinrich, worked for German intelligence during cold war, Holocaust denier, helped some Nazis escape justice at the least, after the war has died at 88 years old. She died in May but we may be just getting the news now:


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« Reply #794 on: June 29, 2018, 06:06:43 pm »

May she burn in hell..
 

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« Reply #795 on: July 01, 2018, 05:21:28 pm »
https://www.allaccess.com/net-news/archive/story/177935/doo-wop-singer-eugene-pitt-passes

Doo-wop and soul singer EUGENE PITT has passed. PITT was the lead singer for Eugene Pitt & The Jive Five, who created doo-wop classics such as "My True Story", "Never, Never", and "What Time Is It?" The group enjoyed a renaissance of sorts in the '80s. when they created and sang the a cappella jingle for the NICKELODEON cable channel..

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« Reply #796 on: July 01, 2018, 05:25:11 pm »

May she burn in hell..

May she have seen the light and become one of the saved.
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« Reply #797 on: July 02, 2018, 01:19:21 pm »


Bay City Rollers guitarist Alan Longmuir dies at 70

He passed away "peacefully surrounded by family" after reportedly falling ill while on holiday and returning to Edinburgh for treatment.

The band's frontman, Les McKeown, tweeted a picture of him with the message: "RIP Alan Longmuir. The original Bay City Roller."

https://news.sky.com/story/bay-city-rollers-guitarist-alan-longmuir-dies-at-70-11423911
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« Reply #798 on: July 03, 2018, 09:09:21 pm »


Bay City Rollers guitarist Alan Longmuir dies at 70

He passed away "peacefully surrounded by family" after reportedly falling ill while on holiday and returning to Edinburgh for treatment.

The band's frontman, Les McKeown, tweeted a picture of him with the message: "RIP Alan Longmuir. The original Bay City Roller."

https://news.sky.com/story/bay-city-rollers-guitarist-alan-longmuir-dies-at-70-11423911

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Did you know, he got sick in Mexico per some of what you posted, for all we know, he's another person who has had something slipped into their drink or something. Sad. I read a book on the Rollers. I'll bet if he hadn't gone to Mexico, he'd still be around.... RIP

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« Reply #799 on: July 03, 2018, 09:11:37 pm »
I believe Ron Ilitch of the family that owns the Detroit Tigers and Redwings and Little Caesar's Pizza passed on some time ago... but he died from fentanyl and a mix of other drugs. What's somebody like him using these drugs for??

https://www.wxyz.com/news/fentanyl-and-dangerous-mix-of-drugs-linked-to-ron-ilitch-s-death