WaPo’s Tumulty: ‘Every Fifth Grader Could Tell You That Climate Change Refers to Unpredictable Weath

[mountaineer]

Bizarre weather is nothing new.

200 Years Ago: The Year Without a Summer
By AppalachianMagazine -
May 20, 2016

... Remembered by many American survivors as “Eighteen Hundred and Froze to Death,” the summer of 1816 presented an abnormality that has not since been experienced in modern world history – an entire summer filled with frost, snow and extreme cold.  ...

In July and August, lake and river ice was observed as far south as Pennsylvania. Frost was reported as far south as Virginia on August 20th and 21st.

Rapid, dramatic temperature swings were common, with temperatures sometimes reverting from normal or above-normal summer temperatures as high as 95 °F to near-freezing within hours.

On September 13, a Virginia newspaper reported that corn crops would be up to two-thirds short, complaining that “the cold as well as the drought has nipt the buds of hope”.  ...

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[LadyLiberty]

Bizarre weather is nothing new.Full story

Absolutely.  I posted this link in another thread the other day.  The 1895 snow storm dropped 20" of snow on Houston and 28" of snow on Beaumont.  I grew up not far from Beaumont in Nederland.  Town historians say that the recent Dutch immigrants were thrilled that they were able to go ice skating that year.

https://spacecityweather.com/houston-snow-1895-galveston/

[Applewood]

For many years one of the local channels had a meteorologist (a real scientist, not just a weather reader).  This guy was highly respected in his field.  Back in the day, when global warming/climate change was called "the Greenhouse Effect," this meteorologist was asked about it.  He so much as called it horse manure.  He said weather goes in cycles.  I know it's true here.  We had a relatively mild winter last year.  This winter so far has been brutal.  I've seen cool, rainy summers and winters so mild, I had the windows open.  Snow on Easter, rain on Christmas.  A damp cold Fourth of July and people playing golf on New Years.  All this climate change stuff is BS.
 

[Cyber Liberty]

Bizarre weather is nothing new.Full story

Krakatoa, right?  Now there was a climate-changing event.  The Earth burping will always swamp whatever we puny humans are doing.

[Fishrrman]

"Krakatoa, right?"

I believe that was in the 1880's.

The "year without a summer" came after the 1815 eruption of Mt. Tambora:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Tambora

[Cyber Liberty]

"Krakatoa, right?"

I believe that was in the 1880's.

The "year without a summer" came after the 1815 eruption of Mt. Tambora:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Tambora

Right you are.  The article I was reading did not specify which volcano did the deed.

[goodwithagun]

That's the great thing about plankton. It pretty much keeps to itself.

Unless it’s trying to steal your secret formula.

[goatprairie]

Climate changes have also been the norm, as well.  North of me, in the Dakotas, fossils of dinosaurs and tropical life can be found.  It was also covered in glacial ice, at one point.

Here in Kansas, we have a formation left over from a time when the great plains were an inland sea.  These events have and will occur with or without us. 

Wife and I visited those formations in September. Not easy to get to....the road into it is a rut-filled, dirt one.

[goatprairie]

My Dad was born in 32, and he remembers the Weekly Reader warning them that we would be out of oil by the 70's.  When I was in grade school, the Weekly Reader warned us about the upcoming ice and the death of the oceans.  Well before now, all of the plankton were supposed to die off, getting rid of the #1 source of oxygen.  We were all going to suffocate!

Don't forget the ozone layer. The ozone layer was expanding, and we were all going to be radiated to death (?) or something like that.
Now you don't hear a peep about the OL.

[goatprairie]

Throughout my life, the litany has always been the same: We are all going to die and it is our fault because we won't give liberals more control over our lives.

[goatprairie]

From a best selling book, "The Population Bomb," Paul Erlich. 1968

Predicted a coming ice age, caused by overpopulation.

"Claims: In 1968, Paul R. Ehrlich wrote The Population Bomb and declared that the battle to feed humanity had been lost and that there would be a major food shortage in the US. “In the 1970s … hundreds of millions are going to starve to death,” and by the 1980s most of the world’s important resources would be depleted. He forecast that 65 million Americans would die of starvation between 1980-1989 and that by 1999, the US population would decline to 22.6 million. The problems in the US would be relatively minor compared to those in the rest of the world. (Ehrlich, Paul R. The Population Bomb. New York, Ballantine Books, 1968.) New Scientist magazine underscored his speech in an editorial titled “In Praise of Prophets.”

Claim: “By the year 2000 the United Kingdom will be simply a small group of impoverished islands, inhabited by some 70 million hungry people … If I were a gambler, I would take even money that England will not exist in the year 2000.” Paul Ehrlich, Speech at British Institute For Biology, September 1971.

Claim: Ehrlich wrote in 1968, “I have yet to meet anyone familiar with the situation who thinks India will be self-sufficient in food by 1971, if ever.”
Data: Yet in a only few years India was exporting food and significantly changed its food production capacity. Ehrlich must have noted this because in the 1971 version of his book this comment is deleted (Julian Simon, The Ultimate Resource, Princeton: Princeton Univesity Press, 1981, p. 64)."

Despite being so incredibly wrong, Ehrlich continues to be considered some sort of sage by many of the leftist segment of the population. I guess they think he was only a little premature, and that at any moment we'll all start starving.

[goatprairie]

For many years one of the local channels had a meteorologist (a real scientist, not just a weather reader).  This guy was highly respected in his field.  Back in the day, when global warming/climate change was called "the Greenhouse Effect," this meteorologist was asked about it.  He so much as called it horse manure.  He said weather goes in cycles.  I know it's true here.  We had a relatively mild winter last year.  This winter so far has been brutal.  I've seen cool, rainy summers and winters so mild, I had the windows open.  Snow on Easter, rain on Christmas.  A damp cold Fourth of July and people playing golf on New Years.  All this climate change stuff is BS.

Shortly before I was born in the late forties, the U.S. entered a thirty year period of colder than normal temps. I remember many winters in Wisconsin of whole weeks with minus 30 degree weather for the lows.  Lots of snow too.
So in the late seventies when things started warming up a tad (it was still pretty cold in Wisconsin in the winter) the global warming activists came out of their holes with their dire predictions of calamity and disaster.
Where were these people before the thirty year cold period?  Most of the heat records around my part of the country are still from the 1930s.  Where were the warmists then?
And how do they account for the thirty year period of colder temps post WWII when U.S. and other countries  were spewing far greater amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere than before?

[jmyrlefuller]

Mine can't... Home schooled.

And how do you expect them to get past your state's required standardized tests, set by the same public education system?

There is no escaping the propaganda. All you can do is instill a healthy distrust of it from a young age. Poison the well, if you will.

[Sanguine]

And how do you expect them to get past your state's required standardized tests, set by the same public education system?

There is no escaping the propaganda. All you can do is instill a healthy distrust of it from a young age. Poison the well, if you will.

I expect that differs state to state.  For instance, in Texas, homeschooled children can go get their GED, or get a diploma through the local college too.

[Suppressed]

Don't forget the ozone layer. The ozone layer was expanding, and we were all going to be radiated to death (?) or something like that.
Now you don't hear a peep about the OL.

@goatprairie
There was an expanding hole in the ozone.
The greens won, and the Montreal Protocol passed.   CFCs were phased out, and it seems the trend has reversed.  The environmentalists appear to have been right.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/01/new-measurement-confirms-the-ozone-is-coming-back/

[Wingnut]

@goatprairie
There was an expanding hole in the ozone.
The greens won, and the Montreal Protocol passed.   CFCs were phased out, and it seems the trend has reversed.  The environmentalists appear to have been right.

https://arstechnica.com/science/2018/01/new-measurement-confirms-the-ozone-is-coming-back/

The Hole in the ozone layer hoax was the dry run for the full on global warming industry.  The model worked so well it fueled a whole religion.  The zealots are so entrenched in the zietgueist it will take years to discredit them.

[sneakypete]

Despite being so incredibly wrong, Ehrlich continues to be considered some sort of sage by many of the leftist segment of the population. I guess they think he was only a little premature, and that at any moment we'll all start starving.

@goatprairie

Don't be silly! Nobody is going to starve. If people get hungry,the goobermint will just print more Food Stamps.

[LMAO]

Despite being so incredibly wrong, Ehrlich continues to be considered some sort of sage by many of the leftist segment of the population.

As Paul Krugman is considered an economic sage by many of the leftist segment of the population despite being incredibly wrong

[Restored]

The wind chill here is -10. Tell me more about this Global Warming and any discounts that are available.

[Applewood]

As Paul Krugman is considered an economic sage by many of the leftist segment of the population despite being incredibly wrong

Well, Krugman is a socialist and we know socialism is always wrong. 

Wonder what he's thinking about this tax package that was just passed.  I'll bet he is tearing his beard out.

[txradioguy]

The George Carlin routine about people thinking they can control the climate and the weather sums up the foolishness of the eco warriors perfectly.

[Cyber Liberty]

The George Carlin routine about people thinking they can control the climate and the weather sums up the foolishness of the eco warriors perfectly.

"The Earth isn't going anywhere...We are!"

[txradioguy]

"The Earth isn't going anywhere...We are!"

Exactly.  We're a virus that one day the earth will shake off I believe is another line from that routine.

[musiclady]

The wind chill here is -10. Tell me more about this Global Warming and any discounts that are available.

The actual temperature here was -9 when I woke up this morning. I'm with you.....

[mystery-ak]

Meteorologist blasts those linking brutal blizzard to climate change

Winter storm pummels Eastern seaboard, triggers debate on global warming

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/jan/4/meteorologist-blasts-those-linking-noreaster-to-cl/