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Re: Santorum: GOP loss in Virginia is Trump’s fault
« Reply #25 on: November 08, 2017, 09:12:42 pm »
Santorum is partly correct.  Trump may not like it, but schmoozing the senate is part of his job.  He has spent far more time picking fights with allies.  A seasoned politician would convince a few vulnerable Democrats to cooperate.  Nope, he just keeps punching himself in the face.

Exactly right!  I think a lack of legislative achievements is going to plague Trump his entire political life (in fact, it might just get worse before it gets better).  A good dealmaker/negotiator finds a creative way to cajole, persuade, trade-off with, or otherwise constructively deal with the people they’re negotiating with.  That’s what LBJ, Reagan, and Clinton did at various times.  I’ve seen no evidence that President Trump has any of these traits.  His primary negotiating/deal-making trait seems to be being a bully by attacking members of his own party.  Not surprising, that’s not treating him very well legislatively. 
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Re: Santorum: GOP loss in Virginia is Trump’s fault
« Reply #26 on: November 08, 2017, 09:29:54 pm »
Dick couldn't even carry the state when he ran for President. That's why he lives in VA.


It seems like a lot of former congress critters end up settling in Virginia.   What is so bad about going back home to their own states?   


Something funny going on in Washington DC. 

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Re: Santorum: GOP loss in Virginia is Trump’s fault
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2017, 09:32:10 pm »


Once upon a time Trump was a Democrat.

Or is that a fairy tale ??






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Re: Santorum: GOP loss in Virginia is Trump’s fault
« Reply #28 on: November 08, 2017, 09:35:01 pm »

GOP will continue to lose until they start keeping the promises made in 2016.



When candidate Trump first proposed tax reform, he touted  $25,000 single/$50,000 married standard deductions, his lowest tax rate remained at 10% [while the income bracket for that 10% greatly increased] and a 15% business tax rate.  That was when I first paid attention to the possibility that Trump's "tax reform" might be a good thing.

But that was only the BAIT and it has long since bit the dust.

Now we have the GOP SWITCH, a Frankenstein tax monster that hurts many poor and middle-class taxpayers and will destroy its own GOP creators.



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Re: Santorum: GOP loss in Virginia is Trump’s fault
« Reply #29 on: November 08, 2017, 09:42:29 pm »
When you have losing to a lisping moron like Boob Casey under your belt along with blowing two Presidential primaries, your opinion isn't worth a bucket of spit.

Santorum annoyed everyone with his "look at me -- I'm pro-life -- I have a dozen kids" (or however many he has).  He turned off everyone -- even the most conservative voters.  Sorry, Rick, knocking up the wife multiple times doesn't make you special.   

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Re: Santorum: GOP loss in Virginia is Trump’s fault
« Reply #30 on: November 08, 2017, 09:44:16 pm »

It seems like a lot of former congress critters end up settling in Virginia.   What is so bad about going back home to their own states?   


Something funny going on in Washington DC.

There's something money going on in Washington D.C.
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Re: Santorum: GOP loss in Virginia is Trump’s fault
« Reply #31 on: November 08, 2017, 09:51:44 pm »
Dick couldn't even carry the state when he ran for President. That's why he lives in VA.

I like Santorum.  I was on board with him big time back in 2012, earning my very first TOS ban in the process.  But when the Virginia primary rolled around, it galled me to no end that Santorum's name wasn't on the ballot in his home state.  Great message, but lousy organizational skills.

Having said that, the loss in Virginia had zero to do with Trump.  It is a Virginia race which at one time use to be run by Virginians.  Maybe Santorum should have run for governor himself instead of letting the state party pick some Beltway establishment hack from New Jersey.
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Re: Santorum: GOP loss in Virginia is Trump’s fault
« Reply #32 on: November 08, 2017, 09:52:00 pm »

There's something money going on in Washington D.C.




I thought Trump was going to drain that swamp not give it a tax cut.



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Re: Santorum: GOP loss in Virginia is Trump’s fault
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2017, 09:55:13 pm »
Trump drain the swamp?

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Re: Santorum: GOP loss in Virginia is Trump’s fault
« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2017, 10:16:09 pm »



The irony is.... "draining the swamp"  is similar to how Cyrus conquered Babylon.



Cyrus' troops had dug canals.  Then on the night of Babylon's festival while the Babylonians were partying drunk in the streets...  Cyrus' troops diverted the water from the Euphrates River at Babylon, so they could secretly enter the city by going under Babylon's great wall that was too strong to overtly breach.  Cyrus' troops pretended to be fellow Babylonians while they made their way undetected along the city streets to the palace.




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Re: Santorum: GOP loss in Virginia is Trump’s fault
« Reply #35 on: November 08, 2017, 10:30:45 pm »
...if there's a message for Republicans they better get that message and they better start passing stuff and looking like they can govern."


Can't argue with that part.