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Obama jokes: 'I was born in Kenya'
« on: November 01, 2017, 01:48:14 pm »
Obama jokes: 'I was born in Kenya'
by Daniel Chaitin | Nov 1, 2017, 2:03 AM

Former President Barack Obama cracked a joke Tuesday about his place of birth at the opening of the inaugural Obama Foundation Summit in Chicago.

"The reason I’m so excited to see you all here today in part is because this is were I started,” Obama said, who got his start as a community organizer in Chicago.

“Now this isn’t where I was born. I was born in Kenya. That’s a joke," he quipped amid laughter, before adding that he was born in Hawaii.

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Re: Obama jokes: 'I was born in Kenya'
« Reply #1 on: November 01, 2017, 01:48:46 pm »
I don't think he was joking...the joke was on us.
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Re: Obama jokes: 'I was born in Kenya'
« Reply #2 on: November 01, 2017, 01:50:53 pm »
I don't think he was joking...the joke was on us.

I'm pretty darned sure you are right!
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Re: Obama jokes: 'I was born in Kenya'
« Reply #3 on: November 01, 2017, 01:51:32 pm »
Finally for once in his life, the liberal mental midget speaks some truth!
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Re: Obama jokes: 'I was born in Kenya'
« Reply #4 on: November 01, 2017, 02:17:27 pm »
I don't think he was joking...the joke was on us.


The logistics don't support a birth in Kenya.   They do support a birth in Canada.     


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Re: Obama jokes: 'I was born in Kenya'
« Reply #5 on: November 01, 2017, 03:15:11 pm »
"President Barack Obama was born in the United States. Period."

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Re: Obama jokes: 'I was born in Kenya'
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2017, 03:17:09 pm »
The place of his birth is immaterial since his commie mommie had to surrender his US citizenship (if any existed) to get him into madrassa as a child. That's why his school records are sealed- he was a foreign student. Yes, the joke is on us and we suffered greatly and may never recover from his treachery.
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« Reply #7 on: November 01, 2017, 03:18:16 pm »
"President Barack Obama was born in the United States. Period."

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I would lie too if I knew my enemies were going to attempt to damage me politically because I told the truth.   I have no obligation to tell the truth to my enemies.   


Trump plays the game the way they do,  and they are still shell shocked over the fact that he will use their own tactics against them.   


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Re: Obama jokes: 'I was born in Kenya'
« Reply #8 on: November 01, 2017, 03:19:00 pm »
"President Barack Obama was born in the United States. Period."

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Re: Obama jokes: 'I was born in Kenya'
« Reply #9 on: November 01, 2017, 03:21:57 pm »
The place of his birth is immaterial since his commie mommie had to surrender his US citizenship (if any existed) to get him into madrassa as a child.



A parent cannot revoke a child's citizenship.   


That's why his school records are sealed- he was a foreign student. Yes, the joke is on us and we suffered greatly and may never recover from his treachery.


His school records are sealed because people would notice all the "Ds" and "Fs"  and conclude Obama is an idiot,  which he is.   

If Obama's school or college grades were any good,  he would have been shoving them in our faces back in 2008.   They are horrible,  and they demonstrate that he was an affirmative action recipient who was in far over his head.   


He didn't have the intellect to be in Columbia or Harvard,  but because he was the right color,  they ignored his stupidity and ignorance and passed him anyway. 



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Re: Obama jokes: 'I was born in Kenya'
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2017, 03:27:35 pm »

I would lie too if I knew my enemies were going to attempt to damage me politically because I told the truth.   I have no obligation to tell the truth to my enemies.   


Trump plays the game the way they do,  and they are still shell shocked over the fact that he will use their own tactics against them.

You might not have an obligation to tell the truth, but personally, I always try and be truthful.  I also think that our Presidential candidates have an obligation to tell the truth to the American people.  I'm kinda old fashion that way.  Unfortunately, I recognize not everyone shares my values and my expectations.
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Re: Obama jokes: 'I was born in Kenya'
« Reply #11 on: November 01, 2017, 03:33:51 pm »
You might not have an obligation to tell the truth, but personally, I always try and be truthful.  I also think that our Presidential candidates have an obligation to tell the truth to the American people.  I'm kinda old fashion that way.  Unfortunately, I recognize not everyone shares my values and my expectations.


Well the "truth"  is that Trump doesn't know where Obama was born.   The "truth"  is that the vast majority of people who insist he was born in the US,  also don't know where he was born.   

The evidence so far of where he was born is pretty terrible.   


Now if Trump had told the truth,  which is "I don't know where he was born."   The media would have been all over him and they would have damaged his chances at winning the election.   


So long as we have one party control of the media-attack-weapon,  we have no obligation to be forthright or honest with them.   

Had the issue of Obama's birth been properly discussed in public debate,   the answer "I don't know where he was born"  would have been acceptable to the American people,   but because the media-weapon had already prepped the battlefield with their false premises,   it would have been a tactical mistake to engage them on that ground.   



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Re: Obama jokes: 'I was born in Kenya'
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2017, 03:35:56 pm »

A parent cannot revoke a child's citizenship.   


Then Bammy must have gone to the consulate and renounced his citizenship himself.

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« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2017, 03:39:21 pm »
Then Bammy must have gone to the consulate and renounced his citizenship himself.

Or he never was a citizen to begin with!
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Re: Obama jokes: 'I was born in Kenya'
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2017, 03:55:23 pm »
Or he never was a citizen to begin with!

A distinct possibility.
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« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2017, 03:57:11 pm »
A distinct possibility.

That would be my guess!
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Re: Obama jokes: 'I was born in Kenya'
« Reply #16 on: November 01, 2017, 04:01:30 pm »

I would lie too if I knew my enemies were going to attempt to damage me politically because I told the truth.   I have no obligation to tell the truth to my enemies.   


Trump plays the game the way they do,  and they are still shell shocked over the fact that he will use their own tactics against them.

Putting aside for the moment the ethics of lying in general, he lied to everyone - not just his enemies.

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Re: Obama jokes: 'I was born in Kenya'
« Reply #17 on: November 01, 2017, 04:03:33 pm »


A parent cannot revoke a child's citizenship.

But, that's not the issue.  She could not confer citizenship to him.



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His school records are sealed because people would notice all the "Ds" and "Fs"  and conclude Obama is an idiot,  which he is.   

If Obama's school or college grades were any good,  he would have been shoving them in our faces back in 2008.   They are horrible,  and they demonstrate that he was an affirmative action recipient who was in far over his head.   


He didn't have the intellect to be in Columbia or Harvard,  but because he was the right color,  they ignored his stupidity and ignorance and passed him anyway.

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« Reply #18 on: November 01, 2017, 04:07:54 pm »
Then Bammy must have gone to the consulate and renounced his citizenship himself.


He could not do that until he reached the age of majority.    He was back in the custody of his Grandparents before he reached that age. 

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« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2017, 04:09:35 pm »
Putting aside for the moment the ethics of lying in general, he lied to everyone - not just his enemies.

Unavoidable consequence if necessity compels you to lie to your enemies.   


In World War II,  our government lied to us about the Atomic bomb test.    We forgave them  because once we understood the need,   we agreed with their reasons for doing so. 


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« Reply #20 on: November 01, 2017, 04:11:13 pm »
But, that's not the issue.  She could not confer citizenship to him.


If he was born in the United States,  she did not need to confer citizenship to him.   The 14th amendment conferred citizenship to him.    The only case in which his mother was necessary to confer citizenship was if he was born outside of the United States.   

 
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« Reply #21 on: November 01, 2017, 04:30:01 pm »
I think we can all agree that Bammy is as un-American as they come.
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« Reply #22 on: November 01, 2017, 04:32:37 pm »

If he was born in the United States,  she did not need to confer citizenship to him.   The 14th amendment conferred citizenship to him.    The only case in which his mother was necessary to confer citizenship was if he was born outside of the United States.   

NO SIR!  The 14th amendment did no such thing!
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Re: Obama jokes: 'I was born in Kenya'
« Reply #23 on: November 01, 2017, 05:05:41 pm »
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The logistics don't support a birth in Kenya.   They do support a birth in Canada.   
There are a lot of timeline issues in the overall controversy.  However, I think the clincher for all of these timeline issues was Obama's paternal grandmother proudly blurting out in a phone call that Obama was born in Kenya--apparently before she learned that this would make him ineligible to run for POTUS.  Also, I have seen a credible report that one of Kenya's Cabinet Ministers publicly spoke with pride to Kenya's Parliament about a native-born Kenyan running for POTUS.  (The Kenyan ambassador to the U.S. reportedly said the same thing to an American reporter, only to be immediately recalled to Kenya for several days, thence to return to the U.S. to claim that he had been misunderstood, claiming that he had been referring to Obama Senior as Kenya-born.)

I have a friend from the Middle East who says that it is widely believed in both the Middle East and Europe that Obama was born in Kenya.

Most importantly, the BC that the White House released a month or so after Trump's public challenge is obviously a slap-dash forgery.  No doubt at all. 

The folks who scoff at the Birthers have never, never honestly examined the evidence of that.  (Sadly, the MSM cover-up and the cowardly stance of Congress in the face of all of the evidence have fooled them--as expected.)

Last year I met a British fellow who lived in Kenya for 30 years.  He said he lived 30 miles from Obama's once-celebrated birthplace.  He said "I love America, but Americans are stupid."

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Now Obama is itching to brag openly to the world that he fooled America.  Manifestly, his joke was no joke.  He is fundamentally a braggart who veils the truth behind lies of deniability--such as his reference the "57 States" and the "Navy corpse-men."  He is not as stupid as he sounds. 

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« Reply #24 on: November 01, 2017, 05:25:20 pm »
I think we can all agree that Bammy is as un-American as they come.


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